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@SheriffIsInTown On hold for a couple of days, pending response from the admin who had protected the page. @Gimmetrow can you shed some light on the current protection for this page as you had protected the page in March 2009 with indefinite move-protection at the admin level? – robertsky (talk) 04:18, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That being said, a search for both terms indicates that he is referred to by either names in an equal manner and Google Trends favours the longer search term even if it is ever so slightly. – robertsky (talk) 04:25, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Robertsky I was specifically talking about Google Books searches, where you mostly find high-quality scholarly sources. The longer version is rarely used in books. While news and web sources might use both versions equally, the shorter version is clearly more common in book sources. Additionally, most Pakistani TV news channels refer to him using the shorter version. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 10:34, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The assertion that book sources more often use the short name doesn't seem to be borne out by an ngram search: [1]. Moving to Contested, as this definitely needs a discussion, and I'm leaning oppose at present on common name grounds. — Amakuru (talk) 09:36, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support on the basis of a more concise title; no other Wikipedia article’s title includes Asif Zardari.