Talk:Canada Life Centre
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Logo & nicknames
[edit]I noticed that other NHL arena articles have an image of the arena logo and any nicknames above the photo in the info box. This one should include the logo and I know at least one nickname, the Phone Booth.24.79.77.168 (talk) 16:10, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
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[edit]I'm a bit confused. How can a building which hasn't yet opened be described as formerly some other name? Was this a name in the planning process? I think if True North Centre is to be included, it needs a fuller explanation, because I don't think "formerly True North Centre" would be accurate...but I have no knowledge about the building other than what I've read here. Could somebody enlighten? - Cafemusique 12:47, 31 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Before MTS bought the naming rights, it was known as the "True North Centre". "True North" is the arena's management firm. I don't see why buildings that aren't open can't have names, but I'll clarify the article.--Nonpareility 21:37, 1 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Highlights?
[edit]Why is the highlights section a concert schedule of the last year? I'm going to delete it tomorrow unless someone objects/cleans it up... ccwaters 12:19, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
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History
[edit]I have yet to find out which architects designed the MTS centre, it's not on the offical MTS Centre website, please someone add it here. It seems strange that such am evasive building would be built but that the architects are not credited.
Seating Capacity?
[edit]What is the exact capacity for concerts? heavy editing has been going on involving the seating numbers, just want to know the EXACT capacity —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rddflag (talk • contribs) 16:09, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
"Chipman has stated that the arena's current size is sufficient for an NHL team due to its unique economics. Further supporting the viability of the arena is the reported attendance figures of many struggling teams average below the MTS Centre's capacity.[7]"
The cited link, which shows the NHL's attendance statistics, shows that only four teams have an average attendance below MTS Centre's capacity. How does this support the viability of the arena? If anything, it shows why it isn't viable. It shows that if they sold out every game, they'd only be fourth from the bottom in league attendance. That's not very good.Djob (talk) 07:54, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
- First, your point isn't relevant to the article. Second, "reported attendance" just means how many tickets were printed, not how many people showed up at the games, and certainly not how many of those tickets were actually paid for. The teams with the worst attendance numbers inflate the figures (by heavily discounting or outright giving away huge numbers of tickets) in order to qualify for revenue sharing. Aoystreck (talk) 01:34, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
- First, my point is relevant to to a point made in the article, which I feel shouldn't be there since it merely expresses an opinion by the editor. I draw a different conclusion based on the source provided. Second, what you seem to be saying is that "reported attendance" is a meaningless figure, in which case you must agree that there is no need to cite it as a source.Djob (talk) 04:31, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
- I just noticed there's been some light edit warring on the seating capacity for hockey since last time I visited the article. Someone else has since put it right, but just in case anybody else feels the urge to change it, here's the definitive source that confirms it seats 15,018, not 15,003: http://www.mtscentre.ca/arena/index.php Aoystreck (talk) 17:39, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
Future NHL Tenant
[edit]Okay, since this section seems to be under contention... I feel that it would most adequately belong the article pertaining to the Phoenix Coyotes ownership saga. If all rumors were to be included on this site, the Coyotes would potentially be playing games in Quebec City or Hartford, Connecticut. AerodynamicForces (talk) 19:04, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
- The thing is it doesn't really have as much to do with the Phoenix Coyotes as it does with any possible team moving to Winnipeg. There have been several rumours and teams involved with the possible relocation to the MTS Centre.Krazytea (talk) 19:53, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
That is a valid point. I felt that section was specifically addressing the ownership of the Phoenix Coyotes. But back to your point, that's what I've been trying to point out, is that its all been rumors and possibilities so far. There's nothing concrete. If there's an NHL or ESPN article to cite about possible relocation, then it's a bit more valid. AerodynamicForces (talk) 20:17, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
- Here is a video link on Bettman discussing the ownership, the arena, and the possibility of moving to Winnipeg. Note it does not necessarily include the Phoenix Coyotes. [1] the comment is at the 18 minute mark. Here is a link from CBC on the same topic and discussion as well CBC link. Krazytea (talk) 20:47, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
Well, in all honesty, the only team that stood a chance of being relocated in the recent future was the Phoenix Coyotes. And now it looks almost certain that won't be happening. So I still don't see any reason to have this section. I mean, if the Coyotes deal falls through, then it certainly becomes a viable section because the MTS Centre would be a primary spot for relocation. But until then, there really isn't any evidence that an NHL team will be moving to the MTS Centre in the near future. AerodynamicForces (talk) 21:51, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
- The point of having this section is not to prognosticate some impending future nor proclaim some immediate soon to be breaking news. The point is of recording the history of the building and the possibility of an NHL tenant. Again the point is not to raise the acquiring of a team in the recent future, but rather to proclaim how ownership has applied to the appropriate people about the possibility of acquiring an NHL team, those claims were founded in the links I provided as requested.
- It is my belief thus that the information should be restored as it as been backed up by reputable links. The information regarding the Phoenix Coyotes should also be amended and read something along the lines of "the Coyotes were long rumoured and linked the MTS Centre and Mark Chipman but were eventually sold to the new ownership group that saw them remain in Glendale. yadda yadda yadda" Because who knows this information may become pertinent again one day in 4-5 years or sooner. And if or when a new tenant arrives this information can be moved to that new or revived franchises page. But until that franchises arises, any founded information that leads to a possible tenant for the MTS Centre should be entered here as long as it is relevant and reputable. If any further information is required it should be linked and entered again here. The information we are adding about the MTS Centre and the possible NHL franchise was truly said and backed up by both the NHL and the owners, so there is in my opinion no reason to censor that information.
- (Also I should mention that I am not some old fan of the Jets franchise that dreams or believes that they are a feasible franchise for the City of Winnipeg. That being said I also believe that the more information available to all the better) Krazytea (talk) 04:50, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
- While a lot of the information you have restored there is relevant and can be backed up by reputable sources, I still have a problem with your statement: "Further supporting the viability of the arena is the reported attendance figures of many struggling teams average below the MTS Centre's capacity." This seems to be a conclusion that you have drawn yourself based on the source that you cited, but others (such as myself) may draw different conclusions from those statistics. In fact, according to the statistics that you present as a source, only a handful of teams have average reported attendance below capacity of MTS Centre, not "many", as you state.Djob (talk) 17:03, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
- For the record I don't believe I put very much of the info in there at all, just provided links and lobbied for the section's survival for the most part.
- As for the attendance well it currently stands at 9 teams or 30% of the league averages below MTS Centre capacity, maybe thats a few or maybe its many, call it what you want to call it. Plus average ticket prices in the league are now slightly above what the MTS Centre currently charges for Manitoba Moose tickets for the second tier American Hockey League. The average ticket prices right now are somewhere around $30 dollars and are projected to be around 65-75 dollars for a Winnipeg Jets game. Krazytea(talk) 23:02, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
Fair enough. I put the section back in, with a couple edits. Tell me what you think. AerodynamicForces (talk) 16:55, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
Sorry but all this Coyotes organization info defintiely does NOT belong in an article that is supposed to be about an arena where they never played and will not play. TheMetalChick (talk) 23:45, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
Most of this section pertains to True North Sports & Entertainment Limited (the company), not the MTS Centre (the building). Information about True North's business dealings should be moved to appropriate article. rkehler3 (talk) 23:45, 17 June 2011 (UTC) If someone does not fix this section soon, by all means, someone should go ahead and rewrite this whole page from scatch. Aside from this section, the section called "Recent" is no longer recent. (rkehler3) 23:45, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
- I agree, plus I don't think we're really supposed to use terms like "Recent" to start with, as the term quickly becomes outdated, as is the case in this article. Cmr08 (talk) 00:24, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
- Going back to what I said about True North's business dealings being moved to the appropriate article, the content here is getting way off topic. All the discussion about the new Jets logo and uniforms are not really relevant to the MTS CENTRE. It belongs to the Winnipeg Jets page, and someone has already has contributed a well-written, properly cited section devoted to it. Please don't inject your own opinions when you are writing, stick to the facts. Don't assume. (rkehler3) 23:45, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
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[edit]Should this page be renamed to Canada Life Centre yet? As of June 15, 2021, the arena is known as such. Newfiebluejay (talk) 15:12, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
Update: Just realized the arena’s name isn’t scheduled to change until July 1st Newfiebluejay (talk) 15:17, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
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