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Embassy of Moldova, Tel Aviv

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Entirely based on primary sources. Fails WP:ORG. LibStar (talk) 23:57, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Try Stress Management

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Clearly promotional, with none of the sources given being both in-depth and reliable. Tagged for G11 by multiple editors but repeatedly declined by the same IP user. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 23:54, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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This is not promotional. Please review. The page clearly abstain itself from referring to the website in the links. It’s only mentioned one time as a reference.

The other references are reliable. Some of them come from a published paper in a reputable journal. As well, as Feedspot.

In what way is this different from Psych Central or Psychology Today

Please delete those as well then! 12.40.131.195 (talk) 00:07, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I just requested deletion of Psych Central. You will see it won’t get deleted because it does not make sense. The page Try Stress Management is similar to the Psych Central and Psychology Today page.

Be reasonable and review appropriately. 12.40.131.195 (talk) 00:12, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not promotional at all. The tone it is written in is purely factual. Only 1 link referencing to the webpage. The rest are valid sources.

It’s a resource just like the one mentioned above that were never marked for deletion.

I just checked myself [[Psych Central]] was unmarked from deletion. Be fair. And if you believe this page is promotional, do you fair diligence and mark for deletion [[Psych Central]] then. Helpfulpsych (talk) 00:35, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Regarding the references given, they are all either non-reliable blogs or make only passing mention of the subject, which does not establish notability. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 00:39, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How is an academic journal not notable for you? You need to fact check properly. Helpfulpsych (talk) 00:44, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That is a single article in a newly launched online-only journal, not affiliated with an educational institution. It's registered to a corporate services address in Wilmington DE (see company address and [1], [2] [3] [4] for just a few other non-publishing companies at the same address). CIted once.

Of course, none of this matters if the paper doesn't discuss the article subject. Which it doesn't by my reading. With zero reliable sources on a nakedly promotional article, and hallmarks of an article created under a conflict of interest, this article is a clear delete Oblivy (talk) 01:37, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Most academic journals are for profit and not affiliated to educational institutions. Most open access journal are online. Please share legit information. These are not arguments.

No conflict of interest here. Just hate to see one of my contributions being deleted when I spent time to write it. Helpfulpsych (talk) 02:12, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Even assuming this was a journal with a reputation for independence and academic rigor, can you point to the part of the article that discusses the topic of this Wikipedia article? Oblivy (talk) 05:32, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I side with keep 12.40.131.195 (talk) 01:49, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is a clear !keep by reading the wiki and the references. 12.40.131.195 (talk) 01:49, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - fails WP:WEB and WP:NRV. Notability doesn't appear to be evident from the references and I can't find any news articles about this blog. I also saw the rejected deletion request at Psych Central—comparing them is a bit odd considering Psych Central was named one of the 50 Best Websites in 2008 by Time and mentioned multiple times by The New York Times, according to their verifiable references here and here. Limmidy (talk) 02:14, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Most importantly, it doesn't meet WP:SIGCOV. Simply not enough in-depth sourcing from independent, realiable sources.Onel5969 ^{TT me} 10:25, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Clear delete I requested a speedy deletion because I wanted a second set of eyes, but the new editor clearly doesn't understand the scope of the wikis, Sadads (talk) 11:46, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Embassy of Eritrea, London

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Article merely confirms it exists. Fails WP:ORG. LibStar (talk) 23:51, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to List of diplomatic missions in London#Embassies and High Commissions in London as a {{R to list entry}} per all the other articles in about embassies in London that have been prodded/nominated at AfD recently. Thryduulf (talk) 09:29, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails WP:GNG, no secondary sources. AusLondonder (talk) 10:34, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Why do you prefer deletion to redirection? Thryduulf (talk) 11:38, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ranahedi

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Fails WP:NFILM, no WP:SIGCOV anywhere, no critical reception whatsoever. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 23:36, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Réjane Magloire

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Appears to fail WP:NMUSICIAN. Couldn't find any significant coverage or chart listings. C F A 💬 23:35, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Police Officers (film)

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Fails WP:NFILM, no WP:SIGCOV anywhere, no critical reception whatsoever. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 23:32, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Rouzbeh Rafie

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Fails WP:COMPOSER. None of the sources here establish WP:GNG notability, either on account of not being independent (personal website, profile at Ulysses platform, which appears to allow self published pages, Ermes 404 a publisher of his music, an interview with Rafie), reliable (wordpress blog) or significant (pretty much all the other sources).

Criterion 3 of COMPOSER states that those who have written a composition that has won (or in some cases been given a second or other place) in a major music competition not established expressly for newcomers. may be notable, but none of the competitions he has won appear to be "major" (at the very least, they don't have Wikipedia articles) Mach61 23:25, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I added a few more reliable independent sources (e.g. Association of Iranian Contemporary Music Composers (ACIMC)).

In my opinion, Rafie meets criteria for Wikipedia:NMUSICOTHER, saying "Composers and performers outside mass media traditions may be notable if they meet at least one of the following criteria: Has composed a number of notable melodies, tunes, or standards used in a notable music genre."

The competitions are notable from my point of view, especially considering the small world of contemporary experimental (classical) music. E.G. a festival like MUSEQUAL https://www.kokonainenfestival.fi/?lang=en has a very good reputation, even without a wiki article Klaviermusikfan1972 (talk) 08:28, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Vishnu Narayan

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Simply fails WP:NDIRECTOR. Article does not speak for itself and sources from here and WP:BEFORE do not imply notability. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 09:30, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: does meet WP:DIRECTOR with two notable films directed. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 12:41, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep meets WP:DIRECTOR from long interviews. I've learned from Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Eashvar Karthic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DareshMohan (talk • contribs)

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Keep: Passes NDIRECTOR through Maradona (2018 film) and Nadanna Sambhavam. Somebodyidkfkdt (talk) 12:21, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep passes WP:DIRECTOR and as per those two films. Xegma(talk) 13:41, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

CITTA Foundation

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This article is very promotional and written in a very spammy way. I have already removed a copyright violation but I cannot find any sustained coverage of the organisation that would help it pass WP:NCORP, save some press releases. – Isochrone (talk) 16:15, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep The article goes over a foundation. Many of the individual projects have coverage in reliable, neutral, third-party sources (especially in terms of architecture) which are cited. One of the projects is already a Wikipedia article and is linked to in the article. In terms of individual projects, there is a healthy amount of coverage online. I will add criticism about one project that was discontinued to add a complete perspective of all projects. — Note to closing admin: Starlighsky (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this AfD.

Delete. Per nom. Case of WP:PROMO, Promotion, advertising. Company fails WP:N and WP:NCORP. RangersRus (talk) 12:25, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I would think that it is not promotion or advertising because it has a criticism of a failed project by the foundation. Starlighsky (talk) 13:17, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I just wanted to add that the article was based on the GYAAN Center architecture. The reasoning was that writing about the foundation allows for the center to be written about: (External link) The Gyaan Center, a Sustainable Architectural Marvel in the Heart of India’s Golden City - Architect and Interiors India Starlighsky (talk) 13:25, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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South Africa women's national under-18 softball team

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No independent, third party coverage uncovered for this subject to meet the WP:NTEAM or WP:GNG. The only sources in the article now are primary. Let'srun (talk) 23:50, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete wiyh prejudice. Usual OR/unreliable sourced crud from Laura Hale. SerialNumber54129 23:59, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Article 14

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Unsourced compilation album that has no WP:SIGCOV and fails WP:NALBUM. cyberdog958^Talk 22:30, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: This is the only coverage I could find, and it is insubstantial beyond basic press release-derived info. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 05:45, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

SEFF Binghamton: Student Experimental Film Festival in Binghamton

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Student film festival that doesn't appear to meet WP:GNG or WP:EVENTCRIT. The only coverage I can find comes from student newspapers or non-independent sources. Orphaned for over a decade, not a likely search term. hinnk (talk) 22:25, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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List of Mexicana de Aviación destinations

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Fails WP:NOT, WP:NCORP, WP:NLIST.

WP:NOT is failed because this is a complete listing of the services of a company. As such it is excluded under WP:NOTCATALOG no. 6 which states that "Listings to be avoided include [...] products and services". It is also an indiscriminate listing - all destinations ever flown to, however briefly, during the 89 year history of this airline, are listed without any attempt to summarise them which is against WP:IINFO.

WP:NCORP (which applies to the services of companies as well as the companies themselves) is failed because none of the sources here are independent, third-party, reliable sources. This article is largely unsourced, and has been since at least 2011, but the part that is sourced is sourced to old airline-issued timetables, the company website, press releases, enthusiast blogs like airlineroute.net, or to run-of-the-mill articles in trade-press and local news (failing WP:AUD). Sources that clearly pass WP:ORGIND are needed, but none are present.

WP:NLIST is failed because none of these sources are independent, third-party, reliable sources giving significant coverage to the topic of the services this airline offers as a group. If this were a notable topic, I would expect to see a history of the airline covering its destinations - but no such coverage is present nor do I see it in a quick search. FOARP (talk) 11:48, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep WP:NOT doesn't actually apply here, per the recent RfC. It's not a catalogue as it's not promotional, where an airline flies is necessary and encyclopedic to understanding the airline's scope, and it's sourced well enough that we're able to have it on the site. There's an attempt to exclude the number of news sites and blogs which significantly cover airline routes from ever being reliable, which is incorrect. There's also prose in the article about the airline's historical destinations which could be expanded. SportingFlyer T·C 17:55, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
”per the recent RFC” - care to give us a link here? I’m not aware of a new RFC having closed in this field lately. EDIT: and having checked on VPP, the Aviation project page, and the WP:NOT talk page I also don’t see one.

The prose simply repeats what’s already said in the main article. FOARP (talk) 04:41, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The only RFC I can find related to this is this not so recent one that says that these sort of lists should not be kept as due to Wikipedia not being a directory. cyberdog958^Talk 04:29, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep/merge This is not a resource for doing business so NOTCATALOGUE doesn't apply. It is well defined and of limited scope so it is not indiscriminate. Sources do cover the topic, and even if alternative formats for presentation may be better, it does not need to be deleted outright. Reywas92^Talk 23:21, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - The last 15 AFDs related to Airline destination lists all closed as Delete/Redirect/Merge. Since the start of 2023 more than 300 such articles have been deleted. FOARP (talk) 16:55, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge into Mexicana de Aviación#Destinations as an alternative to deletion – Whilst I don't have much of an opinion on this matter, in my opinion, the information from this article could be merged, summarised and redirected to Mexicana's destinations page as this would provide much more information and context to Mexicana's history as an airline, rather than splitting the section into an article with not much context given. (Based on WP:PAGEDECIDE). Aviationwikiflight (talk) 14:59, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:IINFO. I see no need for Wikipedia to record that at one point in its 89-year history this airline flew to Random City X that appears in its timetable from March 1965. I regard this information as airline trivia. Sunnya343 (talk) 15:03, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom, various WP:NOT violations. Rosbif73 (talk) 15:20, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Nutan (Nepalese actor)

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Deleted in January as Nutan (actor). Still doesn't seem to meet WP:NACTOR. jlwoodwa (talk) 19:23, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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As the person who accepted this article, initially I thought he might meet the general notability guideline, but now looking back, yeah, he doesn't. Delete. OhHaiMark (talk) 12:29, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Resoomer

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Has heavy coverage, but doesn't make a case for lasting notability, looks like SEO or COI editing. Sadads (talk) 20:09, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Linxea

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Unlikely to be notable: its a brokerage, that is only relevant in France, and doesn't make any claims for notability. Sadads (talk) 20:04, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - Does not meet NCORP — MaxnaCarta ( 💬 • 📝 ) 23:29, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Dorell Anthony

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Contested PROD, article about a non-notable actor and filmmaker. Don't it satisfies criteria for WP:NACTOR or WP:GNG, possible WP:COI. Jamiebuba (talk) 20:04, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: I don't find much of anything for coverage, one article confirming the person joined Days of our Lives [5], but that's not enough for build an article or to prove notability. What's used now in the article isn't helpful, imdb and a local newspaper. Oaktree b (talk) 01:05, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep: Meets WP:CREATIVE with at least one very notable production to which his contribution was essential. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 08:48, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Greg Boehme

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Boehme played a couple seasons in the lower tiers of American soccer before transitioning to coaching. I am unable to find WP:SIGCOV. JTtheOG (talk) 19:56, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Kimeshan Naidoo

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This somewhat promotional biography of a businessman fails WP:GNG and WP:NBIO. Despite being a WP:REFBOMB, none of the sources constitute WP:SIGCOV in secondary, independent, reliable sources. They are limited to WP:INTERVIEWS, WP:PRSOURCEs, and WP:TRIVIALMENTIONS. His awards are the kind of "30 under 30" cruft not encompassed by the WP:ANYBIO award criterion. Dclemens1971 (talk) 19:27, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Okay @Dclemens1971, fair enough - thank you for your thorough reasoning and looking into it.

I was the original writer who put the article together based on my research on the subject. I'm a new editor so I'm still learning the wikipedia requirements. I also added more sources after your initial deletion request, but this is a good lesson in what sources are valid for me.

I would suggest we turn the page back to a redirect like it originally was before I wrote the article. It was a redirect to the Unibuddy page. Informedpanda (talk) 21:09, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I would accept restoration of the redirect as an outcome here. Dclemens1971 (talk) 21:28, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, I restored it to a redirect but you reverted saying this discussion has to close.

So I will let you handle the process going forward as I'm not familiar with it. Informedpanda (talk) 13:47, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Basically, once an AfD is open, it has to be closed by a non-involved editor. This will happen in less than a week and since both participants support redirect I expect that will be the outcome. Dclemens1971 (talk) 14:52, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

JOJ WAU

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Probably not notable. I could only find this: [6], [7], [8]. This probably does not constitute significant coverage. Janhrach (talk) 17:27, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to TV JOJ. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 10:58, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Emily Schrader

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This draft was declined [9] in articles for creation by CFA. It was since published by Instant History but I'm not sure she's notable. Most citations are simply articles she wrote or interviews with her without any substantial secondary coverage from reliable sources. jwtmsqeh (talk) 19:00, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Note: The article was declined by CFA not because it was not notable rather because of the way of writing which I cleaned it up. Instant History (talk) 20:04, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My edits can be seen in the edit history. This doesn't address the lack of sources to verify notability. It's all sources she's affiliated with or interviews. jwtmsqeh (talk) 20:46, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: The New Zealand newspaper is behind a paywall and the archive I normally use doesn't open, so I'll assume it's a good source. Fox News interview but goes into details about her [10], French magazine for Armenians [11]. I think with the rest of the sourcing used in the article, should be enough for GNG. Oaktree b (talk) 01:12, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've tried a few other ways, it talks about her like the Fox News article does. Should be ok for notability. Oaktree b (talk) 01:20, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of Beefsteak Club (London) members

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Does not meet WP:NLIST. Might be WP:A3 eligible. Likely redirect for Beefsteak Club. Conyo14 (talk) 18:14, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Fails NLIST as well as GNG. Not a useful redirect. Cambial — foliar❧ 21:04, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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List of Royal Yacht Squadron members

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Does not meet WP:NLIST. Might be WP:A3 eligible. Conyo14 (talk) 18:12, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete It looks like before it was removed, the list was mostly sourced from this unsourced (random?) list of supposed members of the squadron. cyberdog958^Talk 20:25, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Santhosh Suvarna

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Non-notable person, lacking WP:SIGCOV outside specialist poker websites. Does not appear to have won any notable, major tournaments. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 17:43, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Pedro Neves (poker player)

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Non-notable person, lacking WP:SIGCOV outside specialist poker websites. Does not appear to have won any notable, major tournaments. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 17:42, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Frank Funaro (poker player)

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Non-notable person, lacking WP:SIGCOV outside specialist poker websites. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 17:36, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Saheb Bhattacharya

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No significant coverages. Xegma(talk) 17:32, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Meets WP:NACTOR, with multiple significant roles in notable productions. The article needs cleanup. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 08:46, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Peter Park (poker player)

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Non-notable person, no WP:SIGCOV. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 17:31, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete no significant coverages added. Need to add more sources. Xegma(talk) 17:35, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

More sources added + revised. PsychoticIncall (talk) 14:03, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Tom McDonnell

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Non-notable local politician. As raised at Talk:Tom McDonnell, in terms of:

WP:NPOL, subject has not held national or international office (Despite initial author's claims about subject being elected to "parliament", he is a local councillor who was elected to Newbridge LEA of Kildare County Council, on 11th count, with 548 first pref votes). While, as a local election candidate, the subject received perhaps slightly more coverage than some others, that coverage is mainly about the unusual nature of the subject's electioneering statements. Rather than coverage of the subject as a person/candidate.
WP:NBIO, and as above, the coverage available does not provide enough biographical detail to expand the article. To the extent that basic biographical facts (place of birth, early life, education, etc, etc) are not established/supported. (In fact, we only seem to know the subject's age because it was read into court records as part of a criminal damage conviction).
WP:NCRIMINAL, breaking another man's windows is not of "historic significance" to the extent that the subject gains notability for being convicted to such an offence.

TLDR: While the subject's name appears in slightly more news articles than we might expect for any other (otherwise non-notable) local councillor, the margins involved are small. And caused by the subject's unusual electioneering statements (and apparent petty criminality), rather than notability under WP:SIGCOV, WP:NPOL or WP:NCRIMINAL.

(Note: If the subject was a member of a political party, I'd propose redirection to the "election history" section of that party's article. Or similar. As an independent, I cannot conceive of an appropriate WP:ATD-R target.) Guliolopez (talk) 17:09, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - Non notable local councillor. Fails WP:NPOL and WP:GNG. Some coverage in local media due to his "colourful remarks" does not make him notable. Spleodrach (talk) 19:24, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Controversy doesn’t grant notability. (I’m not sure we need always even consider ATD, otherwise every local election article could end up full of linked names just redirecting to party electoral history). Iveagh Gardens (talk) 19:36, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. To confirm, while I would sometimes propose an ATD (and had considered but then discounted it here) I'm not saying one always should be considered/proposed. As you say, we do not need "blue link" titles for all such subjects. Redirects or otherwise. I note, with some interest, that this councillor is THE ONLY ONE with a blue link in the "councillors" section of the Kildare County Council article. Which is kinda telling. As there is no way that this subject is "standout" above all others. Notability-wise. Anyway, definitely not advocating for ATD-R here.... Guliolopez (talk) 19:45, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nick Robinson (paperfolder)

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No reliable secondary sources. External links section points to a couple interviews, but just interviews can’t uphold an entire article. This deletion discussion is alongside Typhoon Saturday. This page was created by an IP address (IP is coincidentally is in the same place Nick Robinson is from), and was later edited by accounts named "Iamnickrobinson" and "Robinnick" a.k.a the most obvious WP:COI violation of the decade. Roasted (talk) 16:32, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - This promotional article (seems like it is mostly an autobiographic creation) on an artist does not meet notability criteria WP:NARTIST nor WP:GNG. Netherzone (talk) 17:08, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete Need more sources and sections are unsourced. Xegma(talk) 17:38, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: I can't find enough coverage about this person; [12] was the best I could bring up. Tried French sources as well as he's lectured in France, nothing... Oaktree b (talk) 18:53, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Can't find any book reviews, nothing in the Getty ULAN [13], so doesn't seem to pass artist or author notability either. Oaktree b (talk) 18:54, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I think this can be salvaged as notable. Many books on origami and he is listed as a contributor to the online Encyclopædia Britannica . Heavy online presence as an origami teacher. I hope to take a longer look at this in the next couple a days. I ran out of steam after creating (losing and the recreating) the source analysis for Gar Waterman. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 01:30, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment There is a review of his solo album by Jazz Journal. toweli (talk) 08:01, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Vector TDx

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Got reviews from IGN and PocketGamer, everything else is an unreliable source or trivial mention. Attempts to find significant coverage in magazines failed. Doesn't seem to pass the notability threshold for a new article. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 16:27, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Fails WP:GNG. Could not find more sources about this game. Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 22:17, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Francis William Lascelles

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Fails WP:BASIC as lacking "significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject." This was despite a previous AfD which resulted in no additional sourcing being located. Roughly half of the article focuses on talking about his family. The previous AfD had discussion of WP:ANYBIO, which despite incorrect statements to the contrary, makes clear that "meeting one or more does not guarantee that a subject should be included." ANYBIO does not eliminate the secondary source test. The lack of reliable secondary sources is also an issue per WP:PRIMARY: "Do not base an entire article on primary sources, and be cautious about basing large passages on them". AusLondonder (talk) 16:24, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Ping previous participants Sandstein, Necrothesp, Mztourist. AusLondonder (talk) 16:28, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete still fails WP:GNG. All refs just confirm his existence and that of his family members. Mztourist (talk) 03:10, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, for the reasons expressed in my first AfD nomination: "His position as Clerk of the House of Lords was an administrative one and does not confer automatic notability. Nothing in his unremarkable biography otherwise suggests notability. The cited sources appear to be mostly primary or unreliable sources, and a Google Books search finds nothing of interest." Sandstein 06:49, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. To largely repeat my comment in the previous AfD: The man held an exceptionally important post (one of the two chief administrative officers of the British Parliament) and was knighted, for crying out loud. Meets WP:GNG. Meets WP:ANYBIO #1, as we have rarely deleted anyone who was knighted for obvious reasons (in fact, we have only ever deleted one person knighted in modern times). Knighthoods are very high honours: they are not given out in cereal packets and they are given to people who are already notable (which is why they're knighted). This deletionism is frankly getting silly. How can a person who receives such a high honour from a non-tinpot country possibly not be considered to be notable per WP:COMMONSENSE? Added to which, the previous AfD was only two months ago. -- Necrothesp (talk) 09:03, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Simply does not meet GNG as lacking "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." AusLondonder (talk) 10:30, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Typhoon Saturday

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I cannot find any sources on this band. Closest thing to a source is a blog music review. I tried to PROD the page, but the creator came back from the catacombs to remove the tag, then add a deprecated source. Roasted (talk) 16:23, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I'm was in the band and am NOT a wiki expert. I emerged from the catacombs when I read there was an issue. I discovered that discogs is deprecated (wiki didn't say which source was a problem & it wasn't in the past), so I removed that. I'm at a loss to understand why the page is not acceptable. Are you suggesting the band didn't exist? That three records on Polydor & that our drummer Titch subsequently selling millions of records with Living in a Box doesn't make it worthy of inclusion? There are dozens of entries that seem to me equally "insignificant" but still part of the music history of the UK. Robinsonnick (talk) 18:10, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:NMUSICBIO. Roasted (talk) 19:35, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete could not find any sources with significant coverage of this band and it doesn't look like they ever charted, does not meet WP:BAND. Orange sticker (talk) 12:20, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Habben Michael

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The page is a mixture of unsourced BLP information and promotion. It was created in 2013 by an editor who only edited subjects linked to Teriy Keys/Smurfie Syco and was eventually banned for a legal threat. I have searched online and not found any reliable sources: the online sources in the article are mostly dead. TSventon (talk) 16:18, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Rhode Island Urban Debate League

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Appears to be a non-notable club. Almost nothing found on google, all sources appear to be affiliated or local. Valereee (talk) 16:15, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete I agree. 172.59.210.195 (talk) 16:33, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thinklab Group Limited

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The subject does not meet WP:NCORP notability criteria required of business organisations. It is also a case of WP:TOOSOON because established in 2017, the company only received media attention that seem to be sponsored by the company after it won a minor road construction contract from a county government. All of the references used in the page are published within a month spanning July and August 2024. That might be an effort just to have a Wikipedia page Seminita (talk) 16:04, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Prue Bishop

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This semi-promotional biography of an artist who trademarked her technique for, "sculptural watercolors" does not seem to meet notability requirements for WP:GNG nor for WP:NARTIST. She did not invent sculptural watercolor, she only trademarked her own specific method. An online WP:BEFORE search only found primary sources, many links to her own website, a couple Wordpress blogs, social media and links to a few things she has written. Thinking she might qualify as a scholar/academic, I searched for her h-index on Google Scholar and Scopus (zero); she has written a few articles on the artist JMW Turner, but they don't seem to be cited frequently enough to meet ACADEMIC. The current article sourcing is either primary, or unverifiable (other than her own website and her trademark). Unfortunately, as much as I dislike seeing articles on women artists deleted, I'm bringing it here for the community to decide the outcome. Netherzone (talk) 15:49, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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SDSS J151451.78+311654.0

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No significant or non-trivial coverage in media or studies, not in a catalogue of note, not visible to the naked eye, and not discovered before 1850. SkyFlubbler (talk) 15:40, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: no significant sources found. Praemonitus (talk) 15:49, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RX J2129.7+0005 BCG

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No significant or non-trivial coverage in media or studies, not in a catalogue of note, not visible to the naked eye, and not discovered before 1850. SkyFlubbler (talk) 15:38, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: I did find an arXiv paper, so there's at least some coverage.[14] The SIMBAD coverage is for RX J2129.7+0005. It doesn't appear eligible for a redirect to List of galaxy groups and clusters. Praemonitus (talk) 15:56, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fred Haslam (game designer)

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Nothing notable about this individual (at least according to this article) Theknine2 (talk) 15:32, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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CGCG 396-2

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No significant or non-trivial coverage in media or studies, not in a catalogue of note, not visible to the naked eye, and not discovered before 1850. SkyFlubbler (talk) 15:31, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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UGC 717

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No significant or non-trivial coverage in media or studies, not in a catalogue of note, not visible to the naked eye, and not discovered before 1850. SkyFlubbler (talk) 15:30, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: non-notable. Apart from the SN discovery announcement, no significant coverage was found, even for "Arp 11". Praemonitus (talk) 00:39, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Either delete or redirect to Atlas of Peculiar Galaxies. ‹hamster717🐉› ^{(discuss anything!🐹✈️ • my contribs🌌🌠)} 13:23, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

PGC 4789

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No significant or non-trivial coverage in media or studies, not in a catalogue of note, not visible to the naked eye, and not discovered before 1850. SkyFlubbler (talk) 15:29, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete as non-notable. No significant coverage. Praemonitus (talk) 03:10, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

NGC 4991

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Redirect to List of NGC objects (4001-5000); No significant or non-trivial coverage in media or studies, not in a catalogue of note, not visible to the naked eye, and not discovered before 1850. SkyFlubbler (talk) 15:25, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete as non-notable. No significant coverage. Praemonitus (talk) 03:12, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to List of NGC objects (4001-5000). ‹hamster717🐉› ^{(discuss anything!🐹✈️ • my contribs🌌🌠)} 13:26, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

PGC 2387685

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No significant or non-trivial coverage in media or studies, not in a catalogue of note, not visible to the naked eye, and not discovered before 1850. SkyFlubbler (talk) 15:18, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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SDSS J082535.19+512706.3

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No significant or non-trivial coverage in media or studies, not in a catalogue of note, not visible to the naked eye, and not discovered before 1850. SkyFlubbler (talk) 15:10, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Bradley J. Bondi

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None of the references in this article about a lawyer show significant secondary coverage in reliable sources. I have carried out WP:BEFORE and not found references to add; I have removed two existing references which did not mention him. Article has been tagged as orphan for six years, notability and advert for two years, and was recently tagged with possible CoI. It was also recently cut down by another editor from a longer version with no sources, but the quality of those sources is not better than the existing ones. I don't think he meets WP:GNG or WP:ANYBIO. Tacyarg (talk) 14:40, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment When I looked at this I thought it would be a straightforward senior-lawyer vanity page. I tend to agree that on his career alone, he gets nowhere towards WP:GNG despite having been prominent. There are a few borderline articles like this and this talking about him taking on clients and a court judgment relating to conflict of interest. But nothing that profiles him in the way this article does that doesn't seem to be relying on a press release and CV. Note that the article doesn't mention he's Pam Bondi's brother but that's not inherited. He also got coverage for endowing a scholarship.
Where there is substantial coverage about him is this WSJ article about his 330 acre property and graveyard (someone else's family, also interviewed). The story is also here credited to WSJ.
Cumulatively does this get him across the line? I'm doubtful but would be interested to see further views. Oblivy (talk) 02:04, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete To improve the reliability of sources, it's essential to move beyond press releases, biographies/resumes, and articles drafted by the subject. The apparent CoI editing may be the most problematic. If the subject met WP:GNG, none of the above would be needed. Regarding the WSJ article about the property, the subject is a self-described contributor to WSJ. 2601:18E:C47E:CA30:28D2:4D3:69FF:69B0 (talk) 01:09, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Additional evaluation of the sources brought up here?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Malinaccier (talk) 15:00, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ramesh Auti

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The sources are of mixed quality, a few don't even mention the subject, and the ones that do only mention his existence, frequently in a list. Little of the actual content even matches the claimed source, and it may be promotional given the username of the creator (speedy deletion tags were already removed once). Searching myself, I see little-to-nothing that could establish notability, and the article is so poorly written that there's nothing here that could be kept in a longshot attempt to build an article. The creator had already been told of the myriad issues at AFC. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 14:43, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy delete - not sure why my CSD nomination got removed. This page was previously deleted. And also, the talk page is a mess. Limmidy (talk) 15:33, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that it should be speedily deleted. It was the article creator who removed the speedy deletion template. --bonadea contributions talk 19:01, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - Xegma(talk) 19:34, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi there adding some reliable sources in this page. Can you check it. I think it should be ok to keep page Wp.ramesh wiki (talk) 01:15, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. No need to draftify. Note that the article creator moved the article to draftapace, removed the AfD notice, and c&p recreates the article without the afd template. --bonadea contributions talk 18:50, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete fails WP:GNG. Theroadislong (talk) 19:22, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

While this is not a vote (since my opinion can be inferred from the initial entry), none of the sources added provide even a spec of notability, and they're mostly YouTube videos. Frankly, this is in WP:SALT territory. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 02:14, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

See also Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Wp.Ramesh Auti. Might be a candidate for G5 speedy deletion as well.--bonadea contributions talk 19:28, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there adding some reliable sources in this page. Can you check it. I think it should be ok to keep page. Wp.ramesh wiki (talk) 01:13, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

None of the new sources is reliable, independent, or in any way useful as a source. Here's an overview of the sources in the current version of the article:

Source	Independent?	Reliable?	Significant coverage?	Count source toward GNG?
Source assessment table: prepared by User:Bonadea
https://nettv4u.com/celebrity/bhojpuri/editor/ramesh-auti	blatant promotion	nettv4u.com is generally unreliable, see WP:ICTFSOURCES	very brief	✘ No
http://www.bhojpurifilmiduniya.com/2016/07/ek-rajai-teen-lugai.html	?	Claims to be a blog, clearly a content scraper	No information about Auti, just mentions his name in a cast list	✘ No
https://www.marathifilmdata.com/chitrapat/katibandha/	?	? A database of Marathi films, no information about publisher	No information about Auti, just mentions his name in a staff list	✘ No
https://siraj7.rssing.com/chan-29175398/all_p17.html	?	Self-published source (blog)	Auti's name is mentioned once	✘ No
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPCNQTNAc8Y	A film uploaded to Youtube, used as a source for the fact that Auti worked on it	The film itself	No information about Auti	✘ No
https://cityliveindia.com/city/dhanbad/Article?CL=Harshita-Ojha-will-be-seen-soon-in-a-short-film-Sachet-959055	Press release	Promotion piece	Auti is not even mentioned!	✘ No
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xLrlKU60rQ	A film uploaded to Youtube, used as a source for the fact that Auti worked on it	The film itself	No information about Auti	✘ No
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7ksqg94Me0	A film uploaded to Youtube, used as a source for the fact that Auti worked on it	The film itself	No information about Auti	✘ No
https://www.magzmumbai.com/web-series-hidden-on-ping-pong-ott-platform-from-16th-july/	Press release	Promotional blurb	No mention of Auti	✘ No
https://glamgold.com/ping-pong-otts-web-series-hidden-poster-launched/	Churnalism based on the same press release as the previous source	Promotional piece	No mention of Auti in this version either	✘ No
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Exactly zero reliable sources, and none of them has any information about Auti whatsoever. --bonadea contributions talk 10:35, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per Bonadea's source analysis; no sign of notability of any flavour. (No objection to speedying, if preferred.) --DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:44, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Harry Eaton (actor)

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Non-notable actor; fails WP:GNG, WP:NBIO, WP:NACTOR. Roles have been minor parts. Sources are either primary (the actor's Instagram page) or WP:TRIVIALMENTIONS of an upcoming supporting role in a single episode of an Outlander spinoff. BEFORE search turns up no WP:SIGCOV to support GNG. Contested PROD so bringing to AfD. Dclemens1971 (talk) 14:12, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete WP:TOOSOON (if ever). Person has had minor parts in various TV series, although I cannot find sources that confirm even those. There seems to be a new series that he will act in, but that is in the future, when notability can be re-evaluated. Lamona (talk) 16:21, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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List of 20th Century Fox films (1935–1939)

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This article appears to be redundant to List of 20th Century Fox films (1935–1999). – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:09, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. The list does indeed appear to be redundant. Cortador (talk) 16:41, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Appears to be redundant. Hlsci (talk) 17:50, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom cyberdog958^Talk 20:45, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: this is an unfinished WP:LISTSPLIT. Given the size of the 1935-1999 list, it’s better to split. At least redirect, to keep history of the page, as that redirect would be super-cheap. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 08:40, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Splitting the main list would be better done in larger chunks than single decades. Reywas92^Talk 13:41, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hiller Air Tug

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Article with highly promo style about a proposed helicopter (1965) that was never funded. I don't see anything to merge into the existing page on Hiller Aircraft, so it should be a standard delete for WP:What Wikipedia is not. Ldm1954 (talk) 13:19, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I dispute that it is a promotional style.

I'm not associated with Hiller and I'm not even American. Just an Aerospace engineer but it was a very impressive and interesting concept worthy of retention.

Considering the items that are considered worthy for retention such as minor celebrities etc this clears the bar with a wide margin. JPelham (talk) 13:26, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Bonette

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Bonette played a few games in the second tier of Uruguay and then disappeared. I can find some light coverage in youth football match reports but not much else. For example, PYD 1 is just a squad list and PYD 2 mentions him as a goalscorer and also lists him in a squad. Tenfield was the best that I could find but it's a very brief story about him training in the park during the COVID lockdown and doesn't warrant an article about Bonette. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 13:12, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 15:58, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: I am unable to find enough coverage to meet WP:GNG. JTtheOG (talk) 19:46, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Warm Dust

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The sources listed here provide little more than WP:ROUTINE coverage of the band. Allan Nonymous (talk) 12:45, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep, the group has released records on three notable record labels, BASF, Trend, Uni. Plus they have two notable members, Alan King and Paul Carrack.
Karl Twist (talk) 07:49, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Notability is not WP:INHERITED, saying a band is notable because it was involved in notable things is almost the definition of this, although these may be a good place to look for sources. Allan Nonymous (talk) 11:38, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Most times when there are two or more notable people in a band that's a consideration of notability. Another consideration is that the band or artist has had two record albums released on two notable record labels. So using the Inherited thing is not really right. And this band would be triply notable if I could get hold of the continental rock magazines and books because that's where they were more popular. If you have a look in the Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Warm Dust section, you can see that I have dropped in a link. They made a splash when they were seen by Pope Paul VI. (I think that was the correct Pope)
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@Allan Nonymous Karl is making valid arguments under WP:BAND#c5 and c6. That isn't an absolute case against deletion, but it isn't fallacious. Mach61 13:22, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I might look again later but there's this (page 13) in Disc and Music Echo. A lot of what I'm finding merely mentions the band once. toweli (talk) 14:20, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reply to Toweli, Hi thanks for the Disc and Music Echo "Warm Dust `back' Lennon" article link. That got me searching and I've found a few more articles now. I found the Record Mirror, October 9, 1971 article "Warm Dust slam the British mass media" on page 23, Melody Maker, July 25, 1970, News in Brief, Warm Dust section, Page 35, Melody Maker, May 1, 1971 "No Dust on peace show" article on Page 4, and the Melody Maker, January 30, 1971 article, War, Peace and Warm Dust article by Andrew Means on Page 11. So we have five articles on the group plus there's other stuff in newspaper archives that I can't access. One has to subscribe to them.
Cheers Karl Twist (talk) 12:01, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete; in response to my above comment defending Karl, I note again that WP:NMUSIC is not absolute (conversely, meeting any of these criteria does not mean that an article must be kept). Aside from the stunt with Pope John, this band seems to be a footnote in the Paul Carrack story; I can't find anything usable for WP:GNG purposes, nor even WP:RS that go into enough depth for me to think this article should stick around. An article should never have to rely on unreliable blogs or be composed of facts from a bunch of miscellanious stray mentions in RS, which is all this band has. Mach61 19:43, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note to closing admin, Even though I believe there's enough on Warm Dust to warrant a keep, could I ask please that if a consensus eventually leans towards a deletion, you might consider the option of redirecting rather than deleting? This way we can preserve the history and links. There are a number of possibilities. There is Paul Carrack in his Career section, Ace, and there's Alan King etc. Thanks. Karl Twist (talk) 07:01, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Karl Twist we can't really do that, see WP:XY Mach61 12:13, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes we can. It's done all the time and there is already a section for the Warm Dust group on Carrack's page. I didn't make it. Karl Twist (talk) 12:28, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep or redirect--He's always been dismissive of them, but brief mentions of the band have appeared in RS on Carrack for five decades. A 1982 Rolling Stone profile mentions that their "major [sic] to fame was a psychedelic antiwar LP". The only early 1970s things I found were short articles or reviews in Kensington and Chelsea News, Daily Post (Liverpool), and The Oregon Journal. Caro7200 (talk) 11:45, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep because of the sources linked by Karl Twist. toweli (talk) 15:43, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep in view of the sources identified in this discussion by Karl Twist and Caro 7200 including reliable newspapers and magazines that together enable a pass of WP:GNG so that deletion is unnecessary in my view, Atlantic306 (talk) 23:27, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep There's sufficient coverage now referenced to evidence the notability of the subject and to sustain an article. Good work by @Karl Twist. ResonantDis_tortion 12:09, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Reply, @ResonantDistortion:, thanks. It was a bit of a job. It was @Toweli: with the Disc and Music Echo "Warm Dust `back' Lennon" article link. That got me keen to find more. I realize that I needed to search deeper. And then I found stuff that I had missed. Cheers
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Delete: Term is apparently used in astronomy, that's all Gbooks brings up. I don't find any sources otherwise, and what's been presented is brief mentions. Oaktree b (talk) 14:29, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment, Just a post to show where I'm up to so far as per the table below.

Update so far
Publication	Date	Page	Title	Notes	Link
Disc and Music Echo	June 6, 1970	13	Warm Dust `back' Lennon	article about Warm Dust	link
Melody Maker	July 25, 1970	35	News in Brief, Warm Dust	Warm Dust section in article 92 w	link
Melody Maker	January 30, 1971	11	War, Peace and Warm Dust by Andrew Means	article about Warm Dust	link
Melody Maker	May 1, 1971	Page 4	No Dust on peace show	article about Warm Dust	link
Record Mirror	October 9, 1971	23	Media Apathy, Warm Dust slam the British mass media	article about Warm Dust	link
Beat Instrumental	April 1972	14	Profile Alan Solomon	Profile on Warm Dust saxophonist, keyboard player. A good deal of it is about Warm Dust	link
Sunday Mirror	Sunday 08 November 1970	19	White Hope for Today	article about Warm Dust and their white poppy stunt	link
Record Mirror	May 16, 1970	14	New Albums, WARM DUST: Warm Dust (Trend TNLS 700)	review on Warm Dust album, And It Came To Pass mistakenly referred to as Warm Dust	link
Record Mirror	December 26, 1970	Page 15	Mirrorpick/LPs, WARM DUST: "Peace For Our Time." - Trend 6480 001]	review on Peace for Our Time album	link
Record Mirror	April 24, 1971	Page 18	Mirrorpick, PETER JONES ON THE NEW SINGLES, WARM DUST: It's A Beautiful Day (Trend)	short review by Peter Jones on Warm Dust single, "It's a Beautiful Day"	link

OK, the first seven in the table are articles about Warm Dust. There's another one in the British Newspaper archive but I can't read the title. All reliable sources. I may have a look around later to see if I can fine more.
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Mario Reyaan

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I can't find coverage significant enough for WP:SPORTBASIC. All I could find was Republika, JPNN and Viva but none of them address Mario Reyaan in significant detail. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 13:04, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 15:58, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 19:29, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: I am unable to find anything approaching WP:SIGCOV. JTtheOG (talk) 19:47, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete one source is not enough need more sources. Xegma(talk) 13:47, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Zico Luzinho Ingles Casimiro

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Similar case to Elijeu De Jesus Belo Soares, which was deleted here. Having caps is no longer a 'free pass' and Luzinho needs to pass WP:GNG or WP:SPORTBASIC. I could find nothing other than database sources like the ones already referenced in the article, even when searching in conjunction with his country and Casuarina. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 12:50, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Ahmet Schaefer

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9 references and they are all interviews. I cannot find any additional coverage aside from more interviews. Does not meet WP:NBIO. Broc (talk) 12:49, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Lamberto Gama

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Similar case to Elijeu De Jesus Belo Soares, which was deleted here. Having caps is no longer a 'free pass' and Gama needs to pass WP:GNG or WP:SPORTBASIC. I could find NFT, which is just a database source, and ASEAN Football, which is just a squad listing. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 12:47, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 19:28, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: I am unable to find enough coverage to meet GNG. JTtheOG (talk) 19:42, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete No sources added after the existing source till now. Xegma(talk) 13:52, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Richard Sumah

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List of Sanskrit authors from lower communities

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Very unclear whether this group of "lower communities" which includes e.g. Sat-Sudra (considered higher castes), is a commonly accepted grouping with a clear definition, or some division created specifically for this article. Also not clear if the topic (Sanskrit texts by caste division) is a topic of study and whether these people are grouped together scholarly, or if this is some novel WP:SYNTH list. Fram (talk) 08:19, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The Wikipedia article of Sat-Sudra is very badly written. I have suggested an edit but my edit is reverted. Please check. Sat-shoodras are only higher than other shudras (asat shudras) and lower than every other varna. That is, Lower than Brahmins, Kshatriyas and Vaishya. See the note on sat-shoodra there. Caste boundaries can't be clearly defined due to their complexities. The main castes are mentioned themselves which are considered lower nonetheless. Sat-shoodra only highlights their status in varna system. This is a dynamic list and more people from other communities can be added by everyone. The topic of debate has always been whether lower communities have contributed to sanskrit among scholars. This article helps in breaking the myths of denial of education and lack of scholarship among lower communities and foster inclusivity. Mohit Dokania (talk) 09:03, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Fails WP:NLIST and WP:RS. Almost 60 % of the sources are unreliable. Andhraportal, wisdomlib, jainqq.org, sanskritkosha,sndp, sanskritdocuments etc., are not RS. A list topic is considered notable if it has been discussed as a group or set by independent, reliable sources, which I find none here. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 10:18, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Embassy of Germany, Windhoek

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Article merely confirms it exists. No third-party sources to meet GNG. LibStar (talk) 09:10, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete The information that Germany has an embassy in Windhoek is already stated in the article Germany–Namibia relations. There isn't enough info for a separate article on the embassy. I note, however, that a search in Google brings up a long-ish generated info box that, of course, includes this text. I don't know what will happen after this is deleted but I don't think that we should be writing for Google's displays. Lamona (talk) 16:38, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Germany-Namibia relations already states that it exists, and it is not notable enough to have its own article. Hlsci (talk) 12:19, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Markíza Dajto

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I previously PRODded the article with the rationale being "Not notable - no in-depth independent coverage". It was deprodded by Mushy Yank with a note to look at the Slovak article. There indeed are some sources, but the only claims they make about this channel are:

that it became available on DVB-T (with some technical details), and
that Towercom resumed broadcasting it.

These two claims hardly constitute significant coverage, therefore I am renominating this article for deletion, this time at AfD. Janhrach (talk) 10:15, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep as a WP:SPLITLIST of Markiza, a major Slovak network.-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 10:30, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The article is not a list. It is an ordinary article about the channel – it is list-like because of its low quality. The article on Markíza also shouldn't be list-like; it even carries the "not a directory" improvement template. Janhrach (talk) 15:40, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
SPLITLIST is not only about stricto sensu list articles, but anyway, yes, the article is a list. It has an introduction but it is very much in the list format, as yourself admit. As for the rest, feel free to discuss it on the article TP. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 19:52, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Markíza as ATD. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 10:41, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Waris Islam

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Fails WP:NWRITER and WP:ANYBIO or WP:GNG. Nothing from WP:BEFORE to establish notability either. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 09:18, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete No claims of notability and vaguely promotional article.Vinegarymass911 (talk) 13:21, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Roberto Vera Monroig

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Fails WP:NPOL. A mayor of Adjuntas needs to pass WP:GNG or WP:ANYBIO to merit a standalone article, Monroig does not pass any of these. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 07:39, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nomination above, and because this is essentially one big BLP violation En Español, wrapped in a burrito of OR. He was convicted of some unmentionable behavior towards an employee, but that’s the only sourced data in the stub. Having a single source, even if reliable (which I don’t concede), is by definition original research, which Wikipedia has never published. Bearian (talk) 04:27, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Well, he's been involved in lawsuits [15], but nothing terribly notable from what I could understand of it.. Sourcing used in the article now seems unhelpful. Oaktree b (talk) 14:32, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Vishal Vada Vala

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Simply fails WP:FILMMAKER. Sources are not helpful toward establishing notability on this subject, the ones from WP:BEFORE are not helpful either. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 09:36, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: meets WP:DIRECTOR with at least 3 notable films directed (and WP:CREATIVE with 2 written). -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 13:25, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Fails WP:FILMMAKER. None of his work is widely cited and significantly well-known that have been the primary subject of multiple independent reviews. Only exception is film Samandar that has barely two reviews and I could not find any more. The subject has not won significant critical attention for his work. The sources on the pages lack significant coverage on the career of the subject and are more on actor'debut, title track, unveiling of teaser, claim of audience reaction, unreliable source like filmytown.com and WP:NEWSORGINDIA. RangersRus (talk) 15:37, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Draftify it needs more sources. Xegma(talk) 14:04, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hiram Bravo Moreno

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I am unable to find sufficient coverage of this Mexican volleyball player to warrant a stand-alone article, failing WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Possible redirect targets include Mexico men's national volleyball team and 2022 FIVB Volleyball Men's World Championship squads. Contested PROD. JTtheOG (talk) 06:00, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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He was elected as the best at his position (libero) at a continental championship - seems to match "The guidelines on this page are intended to reflect the fact that sports figures are likely to meet Wikipedia's basic standards of inclusion if they have achieved success in a major international competition at the highest level." from the linked sports criteria. Gunnar Larsson (talk) 20:53, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- The key word here is likely, as in the subject is likely to have received significant coverage from independent reliable sources by achieving this sporting success. No such coverage has been found. JTtheOG (talk) 21:13, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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North Malabar Institute of Technology

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This exists, but even the very stubby article doesn't prove it. Its own website server fails to respond. Not inherently notable. Fails WP:NCORP 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 11:41, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: Back in 2015 the creating editor twice removed a {{merge to}} template, refusing to discuss it. I am not averse to a merge if deemed appropriate 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 11:48, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect to Kannur University. LibStar (talk) 00:56, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Irregardless

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WP:NOTDICT. The article is not encyclopedic and simply repeatedly states that the word is proscribed. Searching Google for "irregardless" brings up mostly brief pages from dictionaries providing definitions or similarly stating that the word is proscribed but attested. Searching JSTOR gives similar results, and none focus substantially on "irregardless". The encyclopedic content of this article is covered at List of common misconceptions and some of it could be merged to Common English usage misconceptions. Otherwise, the article should redirect to Wiktionary. Masskito (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 11:12, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment, FWIW I believe that if this article is deleted it has to be removed from the misconception article because the inclusion criteria for that page necessitates the misconception having a main topic article. So if we delete this page it will not be covered anywhere onwiki. PARAKANYAA (talk) 12:08, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
List of common misconceptions requires each category to have its own article, but not individual misconceptions within the category. The section mentioning "irregardless" only needs an article on Common English usage misconceptions to exist, not one specifically on "irregardless". There are many misconceptions there that do not have their own article - there is no article on rice killing birds, hippos having pink milk, etc. The Common English usage misconceptions article does not have the same guidelines, so the content of the Irregardless article could be abbreviated and moved there. A list article like these is probably the best place for information like this. Masskito (talk) 12:24, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think the Common English usage misconceptions article is scoped very weirdly and this would just make it worse, so I oppose a merge there. PARAKANYAA (talk) 16:02, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, I think there's enough coverage already on the page for a word as subject article. More to the point, it's highly suspicious that nominating this page for AFD was this user's very first edit. I'm going to mark this page as Checkuser needed because I believe this user could be a sockpuppet of Riposte97, who made similar extreme attempts to apply the "Wikipedia is not a dictionary rule (it's relatively unlikely if you take this ANI at face value, but ... stranger things have happened). Graham87 (talk) 15:25, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- I was talking about this off-wiki and my interlocutor said that maybe it could be Chamaemelum who has edited there previously. Graham87 (talk) 17:50, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge somewhere, likely to English usage controversies or 'Common English usage misconceptions'. Although there are currently 13 cited references, 12 of those are dictionaries or writing guides. The other historical citation apparently used the word rather than discussing it as a subject. Current content of the article includes etymology and usage (contra WP:NOTDICT), as well as a general discussion of prescriptive lexicography, which might be better handled else (and is treated at 'English usage controversies'). I don't see potential for extensive treatment beyond dictionary-type discussion. Cnilep (talk) 03:27, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Graham87 above. The word itself has had enough of a cultural impact that is notable on its own. cyberdog958^Talk 04:51, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Searching for secondary sources, I just can't find any that focus substantially on "irregardless". Most of them are either from dictionaries, such as Merriam-Webster, cover prescriptivism in language generally and only mention "irregardless" as a single example

(JSTOR, The English Journal), or use the word instead of mentioning it, (such as this short story), which does contain a single mention of "irregardless" not "being a word", but is otherwise irrelevant. While the word "irregardless" can be found in several reliable secondary sources, its coverage is not substantial, and does not pass WP:GNG. Masskito (talk) 09:07, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Borked links, sorry

Merriam-Webster: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/irregardless

JSTOR English Journal: https://www.jstor.org/stable/30046592

JSTOR short story: https://www.jstor.org/stable/20134975 Masskito (talk) 09:17, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Will Ahmed

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I cannot find sufficient reliable news coverage independent of the topic here, per WP:BIO Loewstisch (talk) 10:40, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. Xegma(talk) 13:40, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for reviewing the page. I've added multiple additional sources from reputable media sources to reach basic criteria of notability. Is there any additional feedback you can provide on why you think this should be deleted?

I believe this flag for deletion should be removed as the page meets the WP:BIO standards. Ahmed has been "subject to significant press coverage and has been written about, in depth, independently in multiple news feature articles, by journalists." His contributions to the large fitness wearable sector are notable, given that he created novel wearable technology and founded an accompanying wearable company that has become the most valuable standalone wearables company. He also makes notable comments about the industry frequency (including some of his controversial comments on Amazon/Alexa, which the wiki page cites). The world's most followed person (Cristiano Ronaldo) wears the his technology, as well as Virat Kohli (the most followed Indian individual on Instagram). This page on Ahmed will help provide the Wikipedia viewers context on Ahmed. Thanks for considering. Wghgljsj (talk) 15:24, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - bolding my perspective per the above in line with AfD process. Thanks. Wghgljsj (talk) 18:27, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Friends Communication

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I cannot find sufficient reliable news coverage independent of the topic here, per WP:CORP Loewstisch (talk) 10:39, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Draftify it for now. Xegma(talk) 14:05, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Brilant Hasaj

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Only played in a semi-pro second tier, with match attendance in the hundreds, and hasn't played that regularly there either. Of the sources currently in the article, one is not significant coverage and the other even less so in that it only mentions his name. Then there are these, which have the Wordpress icon, i.e. closer to blogs. This one timed out on me and I couldn't access it. Geschichte (talk) 08:58, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 15:57, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

José Quintero (footballer, born 2001)

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I can't find any significant independent coverage, and if you can't either, then the subject fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Creator is indefinitely blocked. Geschichte (talk) 08:52, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 15:57, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 19:28, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tanha Dar Mazrae

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No reliable sources (a.k.a. no wiki links) and no reliable reviews. This may fail Wikipedia:Notability (films). This article about a short film is short because no other sources exist.

See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sayeye Penhan. I am also nominating the following related page because it is also is sourced by a similar website (akhbarrasmi, is it notable?):

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Historical Archers Philippines

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This article sounds like a violation of WP:NOTWEBHOST as the article sounds like an WP:ADS. I search it on google, found only WP:TRIVIALMENTIONS about the organizations. The sources provided in the article is unreliable and the 1st one is just straight up garbage. Therefore this article fails WP:GNG Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 07:20, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per lack of notability. Ednabrenze (talk) 08:20, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Malvern College Chengdu

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A search for sources in English and Chinese in google news did not come up with enough to meet WP:NSCHOOL. As it stands, this article is based on its own website. LibStar (talk) 07:05, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, fails all notability guidelines. Search performed yielded no useful results. Ednabrenze (talk) 08:28, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jeff Lestz

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There does not appear to be significant independent coverage Thebiguglyalien (talk) 06:23, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Sourcing:

Guardian article isn't significant coverage
Southern Illinoisian article is *about* a partnership that's not independent (he gave them the books about him to read), but the article itself is indepdent, reliable, and significant
The "Steer Your Business Magazine" article seems very likely non-independent
MoneyMarketing doesn't really cover *him*
BusinessInsider is mostly him saying "I got rich by saving", may or may not be significant coverage, definitely independent
OutsourcingAngel is non-reliable
HillSong is just an event invite + non-independent
His autobiography & other book are non-independent

I am also unable to find any other sources, other than what is already in the article, on a quick look. His claims to fame seem to be (a) being a millionaire who was once homeless and (b) owning Genistar. But the S.Ill. + Bus.Insider don't really make enough coverage for (a), and (b) would be better in its own article. Therefore, Delete, lacking any sources. Mrfoogles (talk) 07:10, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per thebiguglyalien's comments. Fails WP: General notability guidelines and there's no significant coverage on this author since he wasn't involved in any major events. Galaxybeing (talk) 12:48, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Embassy of Germany, Chișinău

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Fails WP:ORG. Article is merely a 1 line sentence which confirms it exists. LibStar (talk) 05:14, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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KEEP --92.77.57.69 (talk) 17:54, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP:JUSTAVOTE. LibStar (talk) 23:00, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge with Germany–Moldova relations: I couldn't find any enough sources on Google News, many of whom are WP:TRIVIALMENTIONS if anyone find something ping me. Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 07:25, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge with Germany-Moldova relations: Most of the time embassies by themselves are not notable per WP:N, but can be merged with the aforementioned article, which is notable and can contribute to the article. Hlsci (talk) 11:39, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Clear craze

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Concerns about WP:GNG as raised earlier on the talk page by another user. In short, the article has unclear and indefinite inclusion criteria that's not backed up by secondary coverage. An example of this is the false equivalence of 'clear' beverages and transparent consumer electronics, which seem to be very distinct trends unified only by implication in this article. The article reads like a list of random clear products rather than articulating what made the trend a "craze". Just not enough evidence at present to substantiate notability in my opinion. If this is deemed notable, suggest a rewrite of the article focusing on (a) the substance and use of the term, and (b) being more rigorous about what about products from that era make it attributable to the trend, backed by sources. Welcome any thoughts - thanks! ＶＲＸＣＥＳ (talk) 04:44, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I’m old enough to remember the phenomenon of many products being marketed as clear. Was it a fad? Maybe. Was it a craze? Hardly. If this is kept or searched, try Clear fad. Bearian (talk) 15:24, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Haha, sorry about that. Was a bit manic. I've simplified the nomination. ＶＲＸＣＥＳ (talk) 23:21, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pinch to Punch

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This lacks WP:SIGCOV even the article knows it limited information has surfaced online. Oricon yield no result, Natalie yield no result, even the Japanese article has one source, the only thing I could find that is RS is from the Media Arts Database Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 06:12, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Also nominating this related articles with the same reason as above

Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 06:15, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Keep) and improve with sources from the Japanese WP, that has a lot considering it's a 1969-1970 series! -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 11:28, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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(My initial !vote above is about Zen-chan Tsū-chan). I hadn't seen this was a bundled nom when I !voted through the assisted script. Procedural keep. These series have very little in common. And it's hard to discuss and improve the 3 at the same time without long tedious explanations and comments about what precisely is relevant to each case. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 11:48, 2 September 2024 (UTC) (The nominator indicates they nominated the pages "with the same reason" but the 2nd article has >10 references to reliable newspapers on JaWP, for example.)[reply]
I'll just seperate the 2nd one. Thanks for pointing out Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 13:36, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, my mention of ’the 2nd article’ is unclear: for the record, I mean Zen-chan Tsū-chan. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 22:03, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirects to the respective networks should also be considered.-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 11:57, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I would like to see some way to keep the content, and suggest a merge to Fuji Television. For the ones which are made by Fuji, which doesn't include Zen-chan (please, please, don't do combined nominations of disparate articles!). Not sure about Zen-chan, as like @Mushy Yank this came up as a single article for me and I hadn't given it any thought before starting this comment
On Pinch to Punch it's unfortunate that there is so little secondary material out there although it seems even the primary material has been lost. This attests to its importance in the context of the development of Anime. This article could be perfectly happy as a stub, verified by what little information is out there, but it's hard to make a case for IAR on this. Oblivy (talk) 07:09, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The issue with developing these articles would be our inability to access archives which would have information about an anime series from 50 years ago. Hard to imagine that Pinch and Punch, a series with 156 episodes airing on a national TV channel, wouldn't be notable with access to the correct archives. If someone is interested, perhaps Fuji or the National Film Archive of Japan can help? I would personally either keep or merge the articles at a minimum. DCsansei (talk) 07:44, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Christina Rahm (scientist)

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The article doesn't show notability. fails GNG. ANTCrowd439 (talk) 06:11, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: The only RS source I find talking about her is from CBS42 Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 07:31, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Her bestseller is self-published, and I cannot find any significant reviews that verify the claim that it is a best seller. Fails notability as an academic and author, and some of the claims are peacock. Ldm1954 (talk) 14:07, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Article doesn't include any reliable secondary sources. Four of the references are for International Science Nutrition Society, of which the subject is the founder. Potential RS sources I found include an article from May 5, 2024 about one of her books in the Idaho Statesman (via Newspapers.com - also published in other newspapers around the country) and a passing mention for sponsoring a documentary that won award at NYC film festival. There may be potential for an article but for now does not pass WP:GNG. Also needs to be written in WP:NPOV. Nnev66 (talk) 14:26, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Barren Earth (DC Comics)

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I couldn't find any reliable source talking about it so it clearly fails WP:GNG. The article only cites 1 sources which they repeated twice Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 05:59, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Scott Kuhn

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BLP created in 2008 with no evidence of significant coverage in reliable sources. Does not appear to meet any sports notability criteria. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:53, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: I couldn't find any sources on Google News even google showing a different guy. Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 07:35, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

He played over 15 years ago. Google News isn't really the place to look. It only shows recent stuff. Links go dead on the internet quicker than that. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 18:06, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete non-notable person. Xegma(talk) 13:54, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: A search on newspapers.com didn't reveal anything more than some brief mentions in game recaps, with nothing that could be used to meet the WP:GNG. Let'srun (talk) 20:42, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ahmed Talaat

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As far as I can tell, this is a minor actor and has not had any significant roles Thebiguglyalien (talk) 05:47, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, does not meet WP:NACTOR or WP:GNG. Ednabrenze (talk) 09:56, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, i agree, i;m the creator of the page and i think now the person doesn't meat WP:NACTOR or WP:GNG.--Eng-Bavly (talk) 11:18, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete for now, @Eng-Bavly: if significant roles comes in the future with reliable sources then it can be freshly recreated. Xegma(talk) 13:49, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
it sounds good. Eng-Bavly (talk) 14:44, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nyarch Linux

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This lacks WP:SIGCOV and the only sources talking about is on the article itself the ZDnet which is release on 2024 making it unreliable per WP:PRS Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 05:28, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Question: "PRS"? Really? Aaron Liu (talk) 13:15, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. I'd say the Japanese source should be reliable, as it's not owned but only licensed by Red Ventures, but that's just one source. Would love to see notability established for a listicle of all the novelty distros someday. Aaron Liu (talk) 13:20, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP:PRS said that ZDNet was acquired by digital marketing company Red Ventures in October 2020. There is consensus that ZDNet, along with other online properties of Red Ventures, is generally unreliable. Editors express concern that Red Ventures, as a matter of policy, uses AI-authored content on its properties in a non-transparent and unreliable manner.. So it is considered as unreliable. Also, yeah I wish it shows nobility someday. Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 13:41, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
as it's not owned but only licensed by Red Ventures Aaron Liu (talk) 14:25, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Gotham TV Award for Outstanding Performance in a Drama Series

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It's hard to decide if I will draftify this article but this feels like it's too soon to have the a standalone article. The award and the 1st edition of the award itself is notable but this specific category as of now, seems no notable. Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 05:06, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also nominating this article for the same reason:

Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 05:08, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: as a WP:SPLITLIST or redirect to the main page. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 09:50, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Gotham Awards#Gotham TV Awards for now; assuming that the next ceremony includes these categories, these lists would no longer copy information from a single article and could be recreated then. I would also support redirecting Gotham TV Award for Outstanding Performance in a Comedy Series for the same reasons. RunningTiger123 (talk) 01:53, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pak Chol-ryong

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 04:36, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: fails WP:SIGCOV, only found a source from 2008 from France 24 Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 07:38, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 15:57, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment @Miminity and GiantSnowman: I am slightly confused by your straight up delete arguments. There is clearly some noted history here, along with the France24 news and swissinfo.ch clearly says Swiss second-division side Concordia Basel has signed up the first two North Korean football players ever to be hired by a European club. I would strongly suggest that we should redirect to FC Concordia Basel, I am also disappointed this was not a redirect either, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kim Kuk-jin. Govvy (talk) 21:40, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Why? The Swiss second division is not even a pro league. Simione001 (talk) 22:01, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I never even mentioned the league, I mentioned the club they played for. I am unsure about [16], is that a mirror of an article? Or it's own article? There is some WP:SUSTAINED with this article [17]. However I did have a good look and I felt maybe a redirect to the Swiss club is a good alt to deletion. I still feel there is some meat on the bone for an article. I wouldn't mind a keep here. Govvy (talk) 09:25, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kye Song-hyok

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 04:34, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 15:57, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Sarem k khazaei

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Falls WP:GNG The draft is Draft:Sarem K Khazaei. Youtube and Google not Reliable 🌀TyphoonAmpil🌀 (💬 - 📝) 04:11, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy delete: This article is a blatant copy of the draft which it got rejected. Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 07:40, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Cañapa Lake

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Only one source, not enough to meet the general notability guideline. And the source does not have the lake as its primary topic and hence is not SIGCOV. Stanley Joseph Wilkins (talk) 04:07, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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K13AV-D

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Subject does not meet the WP:GNG due to a lack of WP:SIGCOV. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 03:25, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge with KDVR. No sources, BUT the KDVR simulcast at least brings in the possibility of a merger into their relay list. Maybe even a mini section. --Danubeball (talk) 02:53, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WSJP-LD

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Subject does not meet the WP:GNG due to a lack of WP:SIGCOV, Fox affiliation notwithstanding. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 03:24, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge into Fox affiliates. No sources, no article and all but the Fox affiliation does bring in an argument they should become one with the Fox affiliation list articles. --Danubeball (talk) 02:54, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Central Illinois' On-Line Broadcast Museum

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Fails WP:GNG; written like an advertisement. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 00:21, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep – includes references and suitable information, needs to settle down rather than have instant dismissal. —Jonathan Bowen (talk) 14:32, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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~~Delete.~~ Fails WP:NORG with no WP:SIGCOV for the museum. Each of the sources is about its founder Doug Quick, with (at most) a glancing mention of the fact that he founded this organization. The closest we get is this local radio story, but even that is mostly about Quick with just a couple WP:TRIVIALMENTIONS of the museum. I'd suggest a redirect to Doug Quick but that page already redirects here. If someone wants to create that page so I can change my !vote, please ping me but otherwise I'm left with "delete." Dclemens1971 (talk) 18:30, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I can work on converting the Doug Quick page to his bio and make a museum section and then merge this with the new Doug Quick Page, if you think this would work. BuffaloBob (talk) 18:46, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Sammi Brie: Your take? Mvcg66b3r (talk) 19:14, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A Doug Quick article with a redirect of Central Illinois' On-Line Broadcast Museum to a section in this would seem to be a possible solution. —Jonathan Bowen (talk) 14:57, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I am working on your recommendation and will be posting the “new” Doug Quick article shortly, then I will return here to request your consensus. BuffaloBob (talk) 03:11, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Needs lotsa clean up, but meets WP:GNG per Jonathan Bowen's argument. SBKSPP (talk) 01:10, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@SBKSPP What are the references that you and @Jpbowen think provide WP:SIGCOV? They are all the definition of “trivial mention.” Dclemens1971 (talk) 03:25, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per Dclemens1971. Fails WP:NORG. SBKSPP, why did you vote "Keep, meets GNG per Jonathan Bowen's argument", when Jonathan Bowen did not mention GNG once in their comment? Please provide some sources that offer significant coverage if you're going to vote to keep. C F A 💬 03:49, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as a redirect to the Doug Quick article as suggested by @Dclemens1971 and endorsed by @Jpbowen. I am the creator of both of these articles.BuffaloBob (talk)
- Technical note, BuffaloBob -- if you support a redirect, please indicate that by changing your bolded !vote accordingly. A "keep" !vote supports keeping the article as is. Dclemens1971 (talk) 15:07, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to newly created Doug Quick as AtD, as that's the subject for which the sources in this article provide WP:SIGCOV. Dclemens1971 (talk) 15:06, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Siebel Scholars

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Insufficient referencing to demonstrate notability. Revirvlkodlaku (talk) 02:56, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comments - First, there are several websites with text almost identical to this article, but I can't tell whether the WP article is WP:COPYVIO or a case of citogenesis: (1), (2), (3).

The article needs to be revised to resolve the possible copyvio problem.

Second, there are sources that could be used in an overhaul effort for this article:

Third, there are multiple listings by college, annually, naming scholarship awardees at the various institutions, with descriptions of the award, which colud provide in depth, reliable sources to revise the article.

Last, perhaps the best solution to the problem of potential copyvio might be to draftify this article, and rebuild it from secondary, reliable sources. — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 17:53, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A copyvio is unlikely. Looking through the article's history, the current version developed slowly over time. Here is the copyvio comparison for your link no. 1. It's blatantly obvious (and also kinda funny) that they just copied text from Wikipedia and made some minor changes to disguise it ("29" -> "various", "selected" -> "chosen", "on the basis of" -> "based on"). The comparison tool doesn't work for the other two links, but they're dated so we can look at the latest revision before they were published. For both no. 2 and no. 3, the text was already there. So the copyright concerns are baseless and the article should definitely not be draftified. --Un assiolo (talk) 19:19, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Both of the sources flagged here are WP:PRIMARYSOURCES. Dclemens1971 (talk) 19:15, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: There is a list of potential sources here, though it seems they are all from universities involved with the programme. --Un assiolo (talk) 19:25, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
~~Redirect to Thomas Siebel#Philanthropy.~~ I looked for sources and all I could find were press releases and content promoting the scholars on the websites of their colleges and universities; none of these are independent coverage. It's a WP:GNG fail, but as an AtD we can redirect to the discussion of the founding donor's philanthropy in his bio. Dclemens1971 (talk) 15:07, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge to Thomas Siebel or Improve. There are pages about the scholars at the websites of colleges and universities, and contrary to comments above I do consider these as RS. There is a burden on universities to be honest, so if something is published then they consider it at least slightly notable. That so many have relevant press releases says a lot. I will oppose a redirect as the section Thomas Siebel#Philanthropy does not cover this largish program. Improve is my preference, I think the editor missed what is needed for notability, and maybe nobody helped. Ldm1954 (talk) 14:49, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The press releases and official publications of universities of scholarship awardees cannot be considered "independent". Dclemens1971 (talk) 19:14, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I strongly disagree with that statement. If universities publish misinformation on their webpages there are serious consequences. Hence what they publish is much, much more rigorously curated than many newspapers. Ldm1954 (talk) 20:20, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, it is reliable. But it is not independent. The question is not whether what they write is true, it is why they publish it. However a books search shows mention of Siebel Scholars in multiple books. Some are primary sources, yet the mention of Siebel Scholars in, e.g., [18]^: 132 amounts to secondary information in a primary source. Some are just passing [19] and some are not independent [20] but I think it would be worth looking at those a little more closely. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 21:07, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I found reliable, in-depth sources on newspapers.com and ProQuest, and added content that is evidence of GNG. (Note: to access the ProQuest sources, first login to Wikimedia Commons, then login to Wikipeia Library, then scroll down and open the ProQuest link. Finally, click on the ProQuest ID link in each citation.) The article's sections, "Participating Schools", and the "Conference Topics & Speakers" are still completely un-referenced, and should probably be deleted or references provided. — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 03:13, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Grand'mere Eugene makes a strong WP:HEY case, having expanded the page from a good number of newspaper sources. There is a question sometimes about the extent that a newspaper article is a primary source, if it merely reports in a local paper that a student has received the award, but the coverage goes beyond this. In addition there are book sources. I state above [21]^: 132 is a primary source, but the section about the Siebel Scholars is secondary information in that primary source. The Meth project link also gets discussed in [22]^{: 158, 286} although that is not in depth. This one [23]^: 283 talks about an extension of the prgram into biomedical engineering. There are many that reference funding. My reading is still not exhaustive of these, but I think that this has sufficient penetration and sufficient sourcing to cross the bar. Thanks, also, to Grand'mere Eugene for improving the article. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 07:46, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per WP:HEY (previous !vote struck above); article still needs cleanup but sources found and added bring it over the bar. Dclemens1971 (talk) 15:03, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jeju Islamic Cultural Center

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No claim to notability. Kingsmasher678 (talk) 03:08, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Searching in the Korean language I can find this Jeju Ilbo article: [24], but it's only a one-sentence mention. Can't find much else. seefooddiet (talk) 07:22, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete No significant media coverage or resources --Loewstisch (talk) 10:57, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jia Rizivi

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Semi-advertorialized article about a filmmaker, not properly referenced as passing inclusion criteria for filmmakers.
The attempted notability claim here is an unreferenced list of minor awards from small-fry film festivals whose awards are not instant notability clinchers -- WP:NFILM is looking for Oscars, Canadian Screen Awards, BAFTAs or major film festivals on the order of Cannes, Berlin or TIFF whose awards get broadly reported by the media as news, not just any film festival that exists -- but apart from two hits of "local woman does stuff" in her own hometown media (and a New York Times hit that tangentially verifies the existence of a podcast that she was not involved in creating, and thus is not about her in any GNG-contributing sense), this is otherwise referenced entirely to primary and unreliable sources that are not support for notability at all.
Nothing here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt her from having to have a stronger notability claim, and better sourcing for it, than this. Bearcat (talk) 18:32, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Note: Article was at a misspelling of her name: I moved it to Jia Rizvi (as on her website and in other sources), then realised one isn't supposed to move an article during an AfD and moved it back again. So as I type it is at the wrong title. PamD
Note also: most sources refer to her as Jia Wertz, but her own web page uses Rizvi. PamD 09:10, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: there seem to be enough articles about her as film-maker. It was a badly-written article but I've cleaned up some of the problems - use of forename, curly quotes, lack of links, overlinks, etc. PamD 09:10, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And bizarre system of reference names too: "one" etc. Have fixed the most-re-used. PamD 10:15, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep. She doesn’t seem to pass WP:NDIRECTOR but the Calgary Herald and GlobalNews profiles are sufficient SIGCOV for this to clear WP:GNG. Dclemens1971 (talk) 01:35, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:TOOSOON. She’s won some accolades in smaller film festivals, but not the bigger ones like Cannes (which actually isn’t that difficult to get into). Right now, the sourcing isn’t up to the level we usually expect from significant coverage. Bearian (talk) 02:10, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak Keep Awards section needs sources. Xegma(talk) 14:11, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Does anyone else find it odd that someone with no other edits uploaded her photo and arranged for copyright permission to be emailed a few days before another editor began writing this article? Reviewing sources, nothing seems secondary or significant. jwtmsqeh (talk) 19:12, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Miranda (engine)

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Article on a rocket engine under development which has no proven notability as it does not yet exist. Clear case of WP:TOOSOON. As part of WP:NPP it was draftified for improvement, for instance waiting until it has proven to be viable. Novice editor removed tags, moved back to main and made comments that violate politeness code. This article and approach is inappropriate for Wikipedia. Since the editor has rejected draftification, deletion now is the approach. If the motor ever works and becomes useful, then and only then would it be appropriate for Wikipedia. Ldm1954 (talk) 01:51, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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N.B., this page used to be a redirect to a short description in the Firefly Aerospace page. Within that page it can be OK; however creating a new article by replacing a redirect must pass the same bar as the creation of any new page. Ldm1954 (talk) 01:57, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lean keep Unlike a lot of these fledgling companies, that end up promising a lot of vaporware, this case is likely different. This engine has the backing of Northrop Grumman, which needs it to power its Antares rocket, which it needs to lift the Cygnus spacecraft into space to resupply the International Space Station per the terms of its Commercial Resupply Services contract witch NASA. So there’s a lot riding on this program, which all adds to its notability. Furthermore, if this engine program fails, that itself may be notable if it ends the entire Antares rocket program. RickyCourtney (talk) 05:58, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

While you make interesting points, I think keeping the article would also contradict Wikipedia:NOTACRYSTALBALL (I.e. Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not) since the engine is still a prototype. Let's see other opinions. Ldm1954 (talk) 12:55, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Go ahead and try this at BE-4 or Raptor pages first as a precedent... KroOoOze (talk) 18:34, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia has many problems, but reference information being readily available ain't one of them. With consideration to how this frivolous demand was brought up, I suggest to summarily dismiss this and not waste any more of anyone's time. Whether this is inlined and put under another pointless redirection is a distinction without difference to normal people. So if anyone wants to waste his time doing this, whatever. But don't deny access to the users in the process by (soft or hard) deleting it.

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The engine was test-fired, so it has more than sufficient physicality. People expect to find all this basic information here. I don't think there is precedent, and purging all development engines from Wikipedia is, on the face of it, bizzare idea. The template itself has a state available for whether the engine is in development or in any other stage; i.e. it is normal and expected there would be articles about engines in development.

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The petitioner out of the blue tried to draftify the article, with complete disregard for any links to it. He tried do draftify it despite it existing more than 90 days (years in fact). Now it is clear the motivation was as a prelude to deletion. In this discussion several frivolous reasons for deletion are thrown around simply trying to see what sticks, while concern over what actually most benefits the users is not considered. Any large rocket engine is very much "notable" to people in the field as well as fans, regardless whether currently in development or not. One could claim Too_soon with maybe some concept that will be renamed two more times and doesn't have anything but the name in the first place, but hardly this engine at this stage. KroOoOze (talk) 18:23, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not provide incorrect information. As I clarified, the earlier page was a {{redirect}}. If it was a real page then it was not eligible for draftification. However, it was a new page and as such goes through the standard Wikipedia:New pages patrol process.

Please note the Wikipedia:Five pillars "Wikipedia's editors should treat each other with respect and civility" Ldm1954 (talk) 20:28, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge with Firefly Aerospace per WP:NSUSTAINED, WP:FUTURE, WP:PAGEDECIDE, WP:NOTPROMO, etc etc. While a few reliable sources have briefly covered the testing of this engine, it fails WP:GNG - there is not yet enough detailed coverage to warrant a standalone article. I think this is a clear case of WP:TOOSOON. This engine may well become independently notable in the future, but currently, there simply is not enough coverage to provide all but the most basic information on it. Until further SIGCOV appears, this seems better handled as a subsection of the Firefly Aerospace article. Ethmostigmus 🌿 (talk | contribs) 03:21, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kim Gwang-sok

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 01:46, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 15:57, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Abdulkarim Fardan

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 01:43, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. Looks to have some potential, as a capped player and four-time league champion. Will need a thorough search in Arabic. Geschichte (talk) 09:02, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Draftify for now, it needs more sources. Xegma(talk) 14:18, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 15:56, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Airnav.com

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I can't seem to find any WP:SIGCOV and there is no clear reason why this is a notable website. Kingsmasher678 (talk) 00:59, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: The article itself has no reference. I cannot find any sources talk about it, only WP:PASSINGMENTIONS Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 01:17, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: It is very heavily cited (see Google books, Google scholar). There is a page of coverage here and a paragraph of coverage here. I imagine there is more so I suggest participants take a good look at Google books for significant coverage. C F A 💬 02:14, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Ellis Hicks

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Wikipedia is WP:NOTGENEALOGY, and simply being a knight is hardly sufficient for WP:BIO. Clarityfiend (talk) 00:18, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Not encyclopedic content. Kingsmasher678 (talk) 01:56, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: per nom. If anything, speedy delete for no credible claim of significance. C F A 💬 02:49, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I encourage everyone to check this forum post Microplastic Consumer (talk) 03:26, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jim Dukhovny

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Biography of a CEO of a company, Alef Aeronautics, which is developing a 'flying car'. The article fails to demonstrate that Dukhovny himself, rather than the company and its proposed project, is notable by Wikipedia criteria. The sourcing (some of which looks questionable) consists entirely of articles discussing the project, and of interviews with Dukhovny - interviews are of course not independent of the subject, and thus cannot be used to demonstrate notability. AndyTheGrump (talk) 00:04, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Alef Aeronautics: since that is what he is known for. Fails WP:NBASIC. Interviews do not count towards notability. All other coverage focuses on the company and only offers trivial mentions of Dukhovny. C F A 💬 02:54, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
According to WP:NBASIC multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability. Jim Dukhovny has been featured in major outlets such as CNN, CNBC, Reuters, Fox Business, ABC for his role in creating the prototype of the flying car.Jacob0790 (talk) 17:26, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Interviews cannot be used to demonstrate notability. We need evidence of in-depth coverage independent of Dukhovny himself, and not of the Alef project. AndyTheGrump (talk) 17:57, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Iranian American Women Foundation

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Isn't a notable organization. jwtmsqeh (talk) 07:52, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment There appears to be sources for this organization including the LA Times, Santa Monica Daily Press, an interview with a local radio station, and a doctoral dissertation. I'll add them to the article a bit later tonight or tomorrow, just wanted to put them here for anyone else to evaluate etc. Dr vulpes (Talk) 03:25, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]