Talk:1997 Constitution of Fiji
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Votes for Deletion
[edit]- Constitution of Fiji and linked articles. Original source material without any additions. TwoOneTwo 15:30, 23 Feb 2004 (UTC)
- I'd be very grateful if you wouldn't delete it. I am not intending to keep the full text there. I plan to write a commentary on each of the constitutional chapters, quoting selectively from each chapter. The full text included is just the raw material that I intend to work with over the next few days; it's nothing like what it's going to look like in the end. So, once again, I'd be very grateful if you'd kindly leave it there. Davidcannon 20:37, 23 Feb 2004 (UTC)
- Wouldn't it therefore be better referred to Wikipedia:Possible copyright infringements? --Phil 15:40, Feb 23, 2004 (UTC)
- Copyright infringements? The Fijian Constitution is not copyright, any more than the American Constitution is. What are you talking about? Davidcannon 20:37, 23 Feb 2004 (UTC)
- If Britain had a constitution it would probably be under Crown Copyright Secretlondon 22:51, Feb 23, 2004 (UTC)
- I'd rather see it moved to Wikisource. RickK 16:35, 23 Feb 2004 (UTC)
- The full text is already on Wikisource. But I've deliberately posted the chapters on Wikipedia because, as I said, I intend to write articles about each of them. Each article will quote SELECTIVELY from the full text; the remaining text will be deleted. But I've started by pasting it all up there so that I don't have to go to the hassle of looking up the individual quotes when I'm writing the articles. Davidcannon 20:37, 23 Feb 2004 (UTC)
- Copyright infringements? The Fijian Constitution is not copyright, any more than the American Constitution is. What are you talking about? Davidcannon 20:37, 23 Feb 2004 (UTC)
- Let David work. If it's not going to stay, then I'm ok with it. Isomorphic 00:43, 24 Feb 2004 (UTC)
- It's fine if the article stays. Wait and watch. AY 05:25, 24 Feb 2004 (UTC)
- Thanks to both of you-) I have made a start - the article on Constitution of Fiji: Chapter 1 is now written. As you can see, it's about 95 percent my own work, summarizing the main points together with commentary on the historical and social reasons why the various clauses were included. Except for two or three brief quotes, the original text is gone now. The main article and all of the lined articles (chapters) are going to look just like Chapter 1. So once again, I beg you all to be patient with me and give me a few days. If building materials are lying about, it's reasonable to wait until the builder does something with them before removing them. Thanks to all of you. Davidcannon 12:15, 24 Feb 2004 (UTC)
- Keep. De-legalspeak and historical reasoning are well worth an article, just make sure it doesn't get POV. Oberiko
- Keep. I agree we shouldn't have the full text here, but in light of Constitution of Fiji: Chapter 1, which is now a very good encyclopedia article without the full text, give David some time to work on the rest. --Delirium 23:00, Feb 24, 2004 (UTC)
- Keep. David has finished the preamble and chapters 1 and 2, and is doing an excelllent job. As a note for the future, David, you can use apostrophes for bold text and italics, like so. I'm removing this from VfD. - Arthur George Carrick 00:22, 26 Feb 2004 (UTC)
- Thank you so much, Arthur. I'm very grateful for your encouraging words, and also for the effort you've made to put the index into an artistic-looking box. You've brightened my day. Davidcannon 03:35, 26 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Done: Preamble, Chapters 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. To do : Chapters 6-17; also main article. I'm getting there at the rate of about a chapter a day; next week I'll have a bit more time than I've had this week, so progress should hopefully be faster. Davidcannon 13:16, 29 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Update: I haven't forgotten about this project - I've just been up to my ears in other stuff this week (I thought I'd have plenty of free time, but I was wrong). Nevertheless, Chapter 6 (The parliament) should be uploaded tomorrow:-) Davidcannon 11:21, 4 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Update: At last I've been able to "finish" Chapter 6. (I put the word in quotes, because nothing on Wikipedia is ever really finished). Chapter 6 required a lot more writing on my part than the other chapters, which partly explains why you've heard nothing from me for a while. Now done : Preamble, Chapters 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. To do : Chapters 7-17; also main article. Davidcannon 13:23, 10 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Update: Please don't think I've forgotten about this project. I'm a bit delayed on Chapter 7, because I'm doing some background research about it. In the course of my research, I've come across a lot of information about side issues, which have generated a lot of new articles (which some of you will have noticed) - but please don't think I've forgotten about this CONSTITUTION project. I haven't. Chapter 7 will be up and running in the next couple of days. I've done quite a bit of reading to see how the relationship between the executive and legislative branches of government have related to each other, not only in constitutional theory but also in practice, over the years. Davidcannon 01:02, 23 Mar 2004 (UTC)
At last!
[edit]I have resumed my work on the Constitution of Fiji, after an incredibly long six-month break. I never intended to leave it so long, but I've just been so busy with other things. This morning I uploaded commentaries on Chapters 7 and 8, and will begin work later today on Chapter 9 (The Judiciary). David Cannon 01:11, 24 Sep 2004 (UTC)
He never finished
[edit]Looks like Davidcannon finished chapters 1-11, and 17, but not 12-16. Would be nice if someday someone wrote articles on 12-16. Right now they contain the complete source text of those sections of the constitution, which is not acceptable. --Xyzzyplugh 13:27, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
New Constitution
[edit]The new Constitution of the Republic of Fiji has been adopted and came in force on 6th September 2013. The article should be rewrited. Aotearoa (talk) 08:09, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
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