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Pind Brahmanan (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Doubts has been cast as to whether this is a place. Plotting in the coordinates, you get to a settlement Tarapur where "Pind barhaman" shows up as a school. Fallingrain.com can't be used as a sole source for a settlement. Geschichte (talk) 19:12, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Vadym Nevinglovsky (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:SPORTCRIT. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 18:24, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Zeinab Norouzi (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:SPORTCRIT. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 18:23, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kenya Maeshiro (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG. Subject has no coverage whatsoever besides a trivial profile of player stats. A7 speedy deletion nomination previously rejected. Dan 18:17, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ian Wright (motorsport) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Does not pass GNG. Sources referenced and available online are mostly in passing or not reliable. Grahaml35 (talk) 17:19, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mahmut Tolon (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Does not meet WP:GNG. Kadı Message 17:15, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Syed Mir Ali Imam Al Mamun (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The cited sources are: (1) an anonymously self-published local history page which says its source is the Bengali Wikipedia article [1] (which in its present form supports little of the promotional content here), so it is WP:CIRCULAR in addition to all of its other problems; and (2) a user-generated "royalty" website described by other editors at RSN as "cruft", a "fan site", and "clearly unreliable".

Online and offline searches in English and Bengali found nothing but Wikipedia mirrors. This retired Lt. Col. does not meet WP:BIO or WP:GNG. The article serves as nothing but an attractive nuisance for those who add unsourced content. Worldbruce (talk) 17:10, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Omar Gosh (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The article on Omar Gosh should be considered for deletion as it appears to fall short of Wikipedia's notability standards for biographies of living persons. While Omar Gosh is recognized as a YouTube personality, the article lacks significant coverage from reliable, independent sources that provide in-depth analysis beyond passing mentions. The content primarily relies on self-published or primary sources, which do not adequately establish the subject's notability as required by Wikipedia's guidelines. Given the insufficient evidence of widespread recognition or influence, the article does not meet the criteria for a standalone entry and should be considered for deletion. Mjbmr (talk) 17:05, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Electric Software, Inc. (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Sources are all about products made by the company, not the company itself. I could find no secondary or tertiary sources discussing the company; it fails to meet GNG or WP:NBUSINESS. The company's products seem like they may be notable, the company itself fails notability per WP:INHERITORG. This page also appears to have been made by an undisclosed COI, as the editor who made this page has exclusively edited this article and articles about this company's software. 🌸wasianpower🌸 (talkcontribs) 17:01, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nafsika Antypas (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Appears to be a WP:BLP1E, making news for being the victim of a scammer/abuser. Other sources about her brand are from journals running paid promotion, e.g. vegconomist.com, or interviews (primary sources), e.g. foodnavigator-asia.com. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 16:48, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nominated for speedy, thanks. Wikishovel (talk) 18:55, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Northwest Airlines Flight 5 (1990) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Failure of WP:CONTINUEDCOVERAGE and WP:NOTNEWS, only cited primary and tertiary sources additionally and had no lasting effects. Additionally no injuries or fatalities. Lolzer3000 (talk) 16:37, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Edward Arthur Dodwell (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I have carried out WP:BEFORE for this article about a British man who was a senior police officer in India, and done what I can to improve the article. Sourcing is very poor, however - two brief mentions and a family announcement of his death. I think this passing mention of a Ted Dodwell is probably also him, but it doesn't give any further information to add to the article. I don't think he is notable under WP:GNG or WP:ANYBIO. Tacyarg (talk) 16:25, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

HG2 Filmworks (director) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The bunch of sources just made it look like they are significant if they weren’t checked on. Also what made it up to 45 source was the musical videos published on mere blogs mentioning him as the director and nothing more like he has contributed on a notable project was being discussed on the blogs. Which already fails WP:GNG. Was in surprise how the article was created by a different person from draft & move by another different person who is already blocked of a sock. But that’s by the way as the main subject is to be focused on. Gabriel (……?) 16:23, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of fictional frogs and toads in animation (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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A list that appears to be a redundant fork of List of fictional frogs and toads, which already has a full section on animation. I am assuming it was initially split off due to size concerns at the time, but that no longer appears necessary. As both lists specify that the entries should be restricted solely to notable examples, when you remove the entries here that do not meet that criteria, what is left is identical to the list already present at List of fictional frogs and toads, making a separate list or any kind of merger unnecessary. Rorshacma (talk) 15:59, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as WP:REDUNDANTFORK. It looks like the main article already lists the notable examples, making this an unnecessary duplicate. (No objection to a redirect if someone really thinks it's important.) Shooterwalker (talk) 16:33, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect as a title that should not hold an article (per nom) but which is a reasonable {{r to section}}. jlwoodwa (talk) 16:43, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was speedy delete. A7, G11 (non-admin closure)AusLondonder (talk) 16:04, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Direct Textile Store (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:ORGCRIT as lacking "significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject." Sources provided are unreliable PR websites and other corporate websites. Failed to locate other sources providing significant coverage. AusLondonder (talk) 15:34, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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GoJS (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article does not cite any independent sources (except the Progopedia, which doesn't even mention GoJS). I was unable to find any myself. jlwoodwa (talk) 15:30, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Progopedia mentions Northwoods (which doesn't deserve its own article).
GoJS is mentioned elsewhere, such as on modeling-languages.com:
https://modeling-languages.com/gojs-javascript-library-build-diagrams/
https://modeling-languages.com/javascript-drawing-libraries-diagrams/
And others have written about it from a business use-cases perspective, eg:
https://sub.synergycodes.com/gojs-ebook/ Simonsarris (talk) 15:35, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's not enough for it to mention something associated with GoJS; notability is not inherited. The modeling-languages.com article describes it as our software, which strongly implies that it is not strictly independent. The ebook might be a satisfactory source (as described in WP:NCORP); I can take a closer look at it later. jlwoodwa (talk) 15:43, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Platform-independent model (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Tagged uncited over 15 years ago and please see Talk:Platform-independent_model#Is_this_really_encylopedic? Chidgk1 (talk) 15:24, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think Platform-specific model could be bundled with this. jlwoodwa (talk) 16:50, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sand Canyon, Kern County, California (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable location. Was AfD'ed once before, closing as Keep because of some sources in the mining literature: [2]. However, all sources cited in the last AfD are trivial mentions, and all but one of them refer to Sand Canyon as a geographic feature (a canyon), not as a community. Nothing has been updated in the article since then, and nothing else could be found. Note that there is a better-documented Sand Canyon in Los Angeles County, making it hard to find information about this place. I could also live with a merge to Loraine, California, an actual settlement nearby. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 15:10, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yannick Dinane (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Was deprodded without comment or adding any sources. Dinane fails GNG with a lack of SIGCOV. Even if someone explains what is in the World Soccer source it won't be enough to pass GNG. Dougal18 (talk) 13:39, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Junior World Series of Indoor Cricket (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This article survived an AfD in 2010, but since then WP:GNG has not further been established, and the article is unreferenced. A quick search reveals little coverage and nothing in depth. Fails WP:OFFCRIC and WP:GNG. AA (talk) 11:20, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Sana Sha (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Biography of an actor with no independent sources, and I am unable to find anything that would show notability. There is also no claim to notability per WP:NACTOR or WP:GNG. The article states that she had notable roles in Aatma The Revenge and Prema Hathiras, but there is no article about either of those movies. While we don't trust IMdB as a source , it can sometimes be used as at least an indication about the significance of a film or a particular part; according to IMdB, then, Aatma is a short film with no other people listed as cast or crew (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt19496446/), while Prema Hathiras isn't even listed there, so nothing there to meet WP:NACTOR.

The article has been moved back and forth between mainspace and draftspace by its creator, and I'm not going to get into a move war trying to draftify it, when there is no indication it could become an article at this time. I think it is borderline speediable both as non-significant and as advertising, but maybe it's better to go through with an AfD.

bonadea contributions talk 13:15, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

While I was writing the nomination, Ravensfire did what I should have done before nominating, and removed all the unsourced information. The claims I refer to above are visible in the article history. --bonadea contributions talk 13:43, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bill Canady (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article about a non-notable business executive. Fails WP:ANYBIO and WP:GNG. Sources are routine announcements and press releases. Jamiebuba (talk) 13:15, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nelson Ruiz (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No sign of notability, this was a WP:LUGSTUBS created from a database entry. No sign of notability from a search. Allan Nonymous (talk) 13:14, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jeremy Carl (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Lack of notability Revirvlkodlaku (talk) 12:56, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Jauerbackdude?/dude. 14:56, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

AH Milad (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article about a non-notable entrepreneur and author. Sources are promotional paid pieces. Does not satisfy WP:GNG and WP:SIGCOV. Claim's of winning "UNICEF of the year 2023" which is not a thing, neither does such award exist. Jamiebuba (talk) 12:55, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Mihai Apostol (footballer) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Failure of WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Neither playing in the Moldovan league or lower leagues in Netherlands give any sort of automatic notability. The only non-database source in the article is a primary source (club), and searching for his name in conjunction with clubs, I could not find a shred of reliable sources. Geschichte (talk) 12:50, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2007 Kongolo Antonov An-32B crash (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Per WP:NOTNEWS, WP:GNG and WP:EVENTCRIT. From what I've been able to find, only primary sources exist on the event with no secondary sources existing on the event. The event does not have in-depth, significant nor continued coverage with coverage only briefly occurring in the aftermath of the crash. No lasting effects nor long-term impacts on a significant region have been demonstrated as a result of the accident. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 09:51, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge into An-32, the article itself is a stub and also fails WP:CONTINUEDCOVERAGE nothing much to expand upon in the An-32 category, although the entry in List of sole survivors of aviation accidents and incidents, could use some improvement to pertain the little information shown in this article. Lolzer3000 (talk) 18:23, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Antonov An-32. This article barely passes notability guidelines given and all of the content is mentioned inside the An-32 aircraft article under accidents and incidents section. Galaxybeing (talk) 11:28, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Bellinzona Ladies Open (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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A very small tournament that seems to get no third party coverage. Even a plain google search just reveals primary sources. Fails WP:SPORTSEVENT. LibStar (talk) 05:32, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep This is a womens Challenger level event that does get outside publicity. Whether its a 2021 event, or Tennis 24, or Tennis Point magazine on youtube. Fyunck(click) (talk) 07:48, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

All these 3 sources are primary. We need third-party sources, that is not connected to tennis. LibStar (talk) 08:56, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A source would only be a primary source if it was directly connected to the event organisers or the ITF, not merely because the source is a tennis-focussed source. IffyChat -- 10:38, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Those sources are not primary sources. Fyunck(click) (talk) 18:35, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I do not regard a youtube clip of an event as a suitable, reliable source. As per WP:SPORTSEVENT, " To be notable, games should be extraordinary and have a lasting impact on the sport; news coverage should be extensive (e.g., outside of the week of its occurrence and in non-local newspapers)". The other 2 sources fails that. Especially one being just a listing of results. LibStar (talk) 23:00, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That applies for individual matches, not for leagues or tournaments. IffyChat -- 09:32, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP:EVENT could also apply here. ": An event is presumed to be notable if it has lasting major consequences or affects a major geographical scope, or receives significant non-routine coverage that persists over a period of time. Coverage should be in multiple reliable sources with national or global scope." This small tournament definitely fails that. LibStar (talk) 10:12, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Dawson Gurley (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The article on Dawson Gurley should be considered for deletion as it appears to lack notability under Wikipedia's guidelines for biographies of living persons. The subject, while known as a YouTube personality, does not meet the criteria for significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources that provide substantial analysis beyond trivial mentions. Much of the content is based on self-published sources or primary sources, which do not establish the depth of notability required for a standalone Wikipedia article. Without significant coverage from independent, reputable sources, the article does not meet the standards for inclusion and should be deleted. Mjbmr (talk) 12:22, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Galway Warriors (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable (and short-lived) amateur sports team. In terms of WP:CLUB and WP:SIGCOV, I can find no independent/reliable/significant coverage of the team's activities during its relatively-short lifespan. A WP:BEFORE search returns less-than-independent webpages like this on the IAFL website (which contains no information that can be used to expand/support the article). Or ROTM local sports news coverage like this (which is also of limited use in expanding the article or establishing notability). It is hard to overlook that the article was created by an apparent COI/SPA contributor, with a quasi-promotional intent, before the org/team had contested even a single competitive game. (This seems such a clear-cut case that I had planned on PRODing. But I note it had already been PRODed. Before being dePRODed as part of a series of (yet more) promotional edits.) Guliolopez (talk) 10:54, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as the amateur and not significant sports team. Significant coverage not present so it makes clear not notable page. --Johnpaul2030 (talk) 11:50, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Healthera (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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it does not provide sufficient independent, reliable sources that prove the company's notability according to Wikipedia's guidelines. Loewstisch (talk) 08:17, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Stockly (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I cannot find sufficient reliable news coverage independent of the topic here, per WP:CORP Loewstisch (talk) 08:13, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nicole Sahin (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:SIGCOV. Refs are most business news than BLP sources. Routine coverage. No indication of significance. scope_creepTalk 07:59, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sofia Nelson (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No indication of significance. Fails WP:SIGCOV, WP:BIO. scope_creepTalk 07:54, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Embassy of Eritrea, Washington, D.C. (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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PROD tag removed due to concern about removing "national embassies without a discussion". Fails WP:GNG. No secondary sources. Effectively just a directory listing. AusLondonder (talk) 07:53, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jasdeep Singh Gill (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Falls under WP:BLP1E, as the subject is notable for only one event. Also, all four sources appear to be part of a press release, as they were all published on the same date, 2 September 2024, mostly by news desks with similar content. – DreamRimmer (talk) 07:51, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tariq Hussain Keen (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable per WP:NPOL, a middle-ranking party bureaucrat and failed 2014 candidate. If he wins in this year's election he'd be notable, so the article was draftified once, but then immediately recreated in main space. The only coverage I could find in a WP:BEFORE search was routine coverage of his candidacy, and passing mentions. Wikishovel (talk) 07:47, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ex-Muslim activism in Kerala (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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There are no WP:RELIABILITY, Most of the sources given here are their YouTube channel links, sources are self-published, clearly fails WP:GNG. Thank you! Spworld2 (talk) 10:11, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

SDM Law College (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Not notable educational institution. I can find nothing except listings showing it exists. Fails WP:GNG 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 07:53, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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SDM Institute for Management Development (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Not notable educational institution. I can find nothing except listings showing it exists. Fails WP:GNG 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 07:51, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Voyageurs Area Council (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Blatant use of Wikipedia as if it's an extension of their website and this doesn't meet WP:NCORP. That it's likely incorporated as "non profit" and their pesence in MN, WI and MN is not within the intentions of WP:NONPROFIT. Graywalls (talk) 14:45, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Organizations, Scouting, Companies, Michigan, Minnesota, and Wisconsin. Graywalls (talk) 14:45, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment There are a lot of articles for councils: List of councils (Boy Scouts of America). Councils are run by volunteers in BSA and they usually are done based on region so I don't know where even the WP:NONPROFIT argument applies (if it even did). The more important thing is WP:N and if it doesn't hold, I would be more towards a redirect to the list provided or any Scouting-related page. – The Grid (talk) 16:56, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    According to the article, it sounds like the council itself is in the process of shutting down and their territory is being merged into other councils. So, the probability that the council will continue to have any significant long-term web presence is low. While the article does have some problems, the proposal does not indicate why this council would be less notable than others, many of which have independent pages. Wikipedia has plenty of pages dedicated to organizations that no longer exist, including several about defunct BSA councils, so while this organization may not serve people in the future, it would have met WP:N standards during its period of operation. Within certain communities of interest, such as Scout Patch Collectors and Scouting historians, every council is notable enough to get a few pages in things like Scout patch identification guidebooks. Although many of the sources linked are from the council, there are already a few independent sources (but more are needed). I oppose deletion, although I would not object to significant edits to address the issues of neutrality, limited references, etc. ToddDTaft (talk) 20:59, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Pages about organizations/companies that fail to meet the requirements of WP:NCORP don't qualify to have a standalone article. Graywalls (talk) 06:16, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    and there's room for merging/redirecting as articles such as Scouting in Minnesota and Scouting in Wisconsin exist (as a valid alternative to deletion) – The Grid (talk) 18:45, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @The Grid:, Yep, merge was my first thought, however being that there's no single suitable target being it is relevant to MN, WI and MI, and the article unambiguously failing NORG, it leaves deletion as a reasonable option. Graywalls (talk) 22:02, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • I recommend keep, because this BSA council is no less notable than the hundreds of other councils that also have wikipedia articles. Furthermore, although much of the original material in the article (which Graywalls has already deleted without waiting for the results of this discussion) was poorly sourced, that is more appropriate for a Template:Primary sources to be added (to encourage other editors to contribute to the article) than a deletion request (which only discourages others from contributing). Johnson487682 (talk) 14:26, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Contributions based primarily on the website of the organization, personal websites should be discouraged. WP:OTHERSTUFFEXIST is not a good justification to retain notability failing articles. As a matter of fact, there are so many articles in BSA topic area that are written essentailly from BSA operated sites, personal websites and blogs that they should be merged, redirected or deleted. If it was only in Minnesota, re-direct to Scouting in Minnesota is an easy one, but given it spans over three states, the target is not an easy pick. Graywalls (talk) 18:52, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The content was contrary to policy because any Wikipedia article must not be primarily based on self-published sources. See WP:ABOUTSELF (the five conditions are cumulative). The removal was necessary, and the AfD being in progress does not matter at all. —Alalch E. 10:47, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Daniel B. Cid (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Not enough in-depth references for a WP:BIO, suggest redirecting the article to his notable creation OSSEC. Already done that, but was reverted. PhotographyEdits (talk) 10:36, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Elvish Yadav (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Notability issue. Winning one show and couple of music videos are not enough. Xegma(talk) 05:20, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Bowie Jane (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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fails WP:GNG Joeykai (talk) 01:39, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources I added.

Sources:

  1. Gorman, Brigid O (23 April 2013). "Barrister's a secret singing sensation". Lawyers Weekly. Retrieved 1 September 2024.
  2. The article notes: "Barrister by day; sexy singer by night. That's the life that has been led by Melbourne barrister, and now pop sensation, Bowie Jane... ... The songstress, whose story has received international press coverage in recent days, is a practising criminal barrister in Melbourne, but she managed to keep her musical pastime a secret from colleagues and clients – until now at least."
  3. "Meet Bowie Jane". VoyageLA (Interview). 5 April 2021.
  4. The interview notes: "I'm an Australian who has lived in Los Angeles for six years and I’m loving it!" "I was living a very secret double life until my story was exposed by the Daily Mail in the UK which was crazy at the time – I was front page of every major paper in the UK and on every radio show. My double life is that I'm a criminal trial attorney having worked in money laundering and tax fraud but am also a professional DJ singer-songwriter! Basically, I would work as a lawyer during the day, then rip off my conservative clothes and get on stage at night. The lawyers didn't know I was a singer and the musicians didn’t know I was a lawyer. Once my story became public knowledge around the world, I quit the law and am now a full-time musician. I've been performing since I was a kid and started out in musical theater and madrigal groups believe it or not! I think that's where I first fell in love with harmonies. I then really wanted to be in a band so started doing acoustic duo work and then moved into the band arena, started songwriting and then releasing in the UK and touring. ... I love revving up a crowd!"
  5. Doreian, Robyn (25 August 2013). "All out, all change". Lifestyle. The Sun-Herald. Sydney: Fairfax Media. p. 12. Retrieved 1 September 2024. While studying law and commerce at Deakin University, she played covers at restaurants in an acoustic duo. Once qualified, the flip side to courtrooms was laser-lit gigs at venues like Transport, at Melbourne's Federation Square, where she blasted her energetic originals. And in 2013, she sang at the Australian Open tennis tournament. The moniker Bowie Jane came from her nickname - ever since she was a child, she's worn glittery bows in her hair. It was also how she kept her alter ego hidden from colleagues and clients. ... In March, she shelved four years of law practice and moved to London to become a star.
  6. The article notes: "But for Bowie Jane (her stage name), law was an obvious career. "My brain has always been lawyer-ish. When I was 12, I had written contracts with my parents stating who would pay for what in my upbringing." ... While studying law and commerce at Deakin University, she played covers at restaurants in an acoustic duo. Once qualified, the flip side to courtrooms was laser-lit gigs at venues like Transport, at Melbourne's Federation Square, where she blasted her energetic originals. And in 2013, she sang at the Australian Open tennis tournament. The moniker Bowie Jane came from her nickname - ever since she was a child, she's worn glittery bows in her hair. It was also how she kept her alter ego hidden from colleagues and clients. ... In March, she shelved four years of law practice and moved to London to become a star. ... Jane now lives in a share house in Camden. Meetings with management, publishers and performances cram her days. She has also been doing radio interviews to promote her second single, Bad Boy."
  7. "Dance Club Songs". Billboard. 13 October 2018. Retrieved 1 September 2024.
  8. The Billboard chart notes: "Busted Bowie Jane – 21 LAST WEEK – 21 PEAK POSITION – 6 WEEKS ON CHART"

I also found this unreliable law profile source, with her real name:

  1. "Miranda Ball". Meldrum's List. Retrieved 1 September 2024. The law profile notes: "Miranda's experience is extensive having run high profile White Collar Crime Litigations as both a Partner then Barrister. Her recent work includes the Bernie Madoff litigations in Bermuda & the UK, Operation Wickenby, Australian Crime Commission investigations and examinations, Special Leave Applications to the High Court of Australia, Legal Professional Privilege Claims, Constitutional Challenges, Children's Court hearings, Australian Taxation Office litigations/investigations and Coronial Inquests."

There is sufficient coverage in multiple independent reliable sources, plus the sources identified by @Ednabrenze to allow the subject to pass the general notability guideline, requiring "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." --Yours sincerely, Bas (or TechGeek105) (talk to me) 06:36, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Dennis Lynch (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article remains mostly bare that does not pass GNG. Grahaml35 (talk) 02:46, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, Lynch was the defendant of the Supreme Court Case Lynch v. Donnelly and was honored by the Rhode Island General Assembly for his service in a delegation to China and his work to redevlop the City of Pawtucket. Furthermore, he was director of Rhode Island's Division of Purchases and served in "numerous other" posts for the State Government. Microplastic Consumer (talk) 17:59, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect to Lynch v. Donnelly. The claims stated by the commenter above me are not "inherently" notable enough to guarantee inclusion in an encyclopedia — "director of a state Division of Purchases" is not an WP:NPOL-passing job, for example, and being honored by the legislature isn't an instant inclusion freebie either. So if his actual strongest notability claim is that he was involved in a noteworthy legal case, then he can be redirected to our article about the legal case, but he doesn't get his own standalone article as a separate topic from the case without a heck of a lot more substance and sourcing than has been offered so far. Bearcat (talk) 15:33, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Ruben Katsobashvili (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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According to the recently published book Terrible Humans by Patrick Alley, a co-founder of the anti-corruption NGO Global Witness, this page is a wholly false biography. The book, in the chapter 'The Gatekeeper', states that it was created as part of a scheme establishing a network of false, or shell, companies designed to enable Dan Gertler and others to evade sanctions imposed by the United States Treasury's Office of Foreign Assets Control in December 2017 for their role in 'opaque and corrupt mining and oil deals in the Democratic Republic of the Congo'. Katsobashvili is also mentioned on the EN:WP page for Interactive Energy, another Gertler-related company involved in the scheme. Further details available if required.14GTR (talk) 04:32, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy Keep for failing to assert a valid deletion rationale.
Clearly Global Witness has decided to make an issue of the truth of his biography, and their claims have been reported by others. And no doubt you find their claims and that of their founder credible. But an NGO being unhappy with a Wikipedia article doesn't constitute a deletion rationale.
He does get press coverage (some of which includes the allegations by Global Witness) like [7], [8], [9]. So it seems likely that the article passes WP:GNG (and you certainly haven't made the argument it doesn't).
I'm not trying to defend this guy, or advocating for keeping an article if it's just a bunch of lies. But if you have reliable sources demonstrating that parts of the article are untrue, wouldn't the appropriate thing to be to add those claims to the article? Then we get a full picture rather than just taking an approach that results in Wikipedia containing no information about this person. Oblivy (talk) 05:41, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Abhishek Malhan (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Runner up of the show and doing lots of music video is not enough for notability. Xegma(talk) 04:30, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Central Library, Indian Institute of Technology Delhi (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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no non-primary sources found. Sohom (talk) 04:28, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. plicit 11:16, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Singapore women's national under-18 softball team (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Subject does not meet the WP:GNG or WP:NORG due to a lack of secondary sourcing about the team itself. The only source is primary and does not cover the team itself in any event. Let'srun (talk) 01:00, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Germany women's national under-18 softball team (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Unable to find any sources suggesting this subject meets the WP:NORG or WP:GNG. The only sources currently in the article are WP:PRIMARY and are not about the team in any event. Let'srun (talk) 00:58, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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National Anthem of the Republic of the Rif (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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It does not appear to meet GNG and I don't believe there are guidelines for national anthems themselves. Based on my search on Google and TWL I could not find any sources. IntentionallyDense (talk) 02:38, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

David Folley (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:ARTIST and probably WP:GNG as well. The sources that I was able to verify are either insignificant coverage or not independent of the subject. I searched for other sources, but only found the artist's blog, a YouTube video, some mentions on gallery sites, and the usual social media sites. I was not able to located the article "Old Master", so I don't know how much coverage it includes. I also wasn't able to find "David Folley: Portrait of a Painter", but considering that it was published by Zap Art Promotions, I'm guessing it isn't independent and was probably created to accompany an exhibit. Overall, the subject seems to be a successful professional artist with the usual smattering of coverage in local media that you would expect. They don't, however, seem to be notable enough for an encyclopedia article, but I would be happy to hear other opinions. The article about their painting The Descent from the Cross (David Folley) also seems to have questionable notability, but I'll leave that discussion for another day. Nosferattus (talk) 02:18, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sayyid Capt. Kalingalan Caluang (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Nominating both Sayyid Capt. Kalingalan Caluang and Panglima Bandahala for deletion. Created by the same editor, they appear to be based entirely on the blog posts of one person (with very similar text) and then refbombed with sources that aren't about them.

Bundled nomination for:

Hello, and thank you for your feedback regarding the articles on Sayyid Capt. Kalingalan Caluang and Panglima Bandahala.
I understand the concerns raised about the sources and the structure of the articles. However, it is important to emphasize that these figures are significant historical personalities within the Bangsamoro narrative, and there are credible resources beyond the initial blog posts cited that provide detailed accounts of their lives, contributions, and the broader struggles of the Bangsamoro people. These articles aim to highlight an important part of Philippine and Islamic history that has often been neglected.
The representation of Bangsamoro history on platforms like Wikipedia is vital for the preservation and recognition of their culture, traditions, and the ongoing struggles for identity and autonomy. The information available about Sayyid Capt. Kalingalan Caluang and Panglima Bandahala contributes to understanding the complexities of the Bangsamoro's past, including their resistance and leadership. These contributions deserve to be documented and made accessible as part of Wikipedia's mission to share knowledge.
I am committed to revising and improving the articles to meet Wikipedia’s standards and address the current issues regarding source quality and notability. Ensuring that historically marginalized figures are properly represented on Wikipedia not only preserves cultural heritage but also educates a global audience about these important narratives.
Thank you for considering these points, and I look forward to contributing to the discussion constructively.
To address the issues raised, here are some steps we can take to improve the articles:
Strengthen Source Quality: We can work on finding and incorporating more reliable, secondary sources that directly discuss these individuals, ensuring that the information meets Wikipedia’s guidelines for notability and verifiability.
Refine the Content: The articles can be reorganized and rewritten to align with Wikipedia’s style and structure standards, removing any promotional or subjective language and focusing strictly on verifiable facts.
Expand Historical Context: Adding more historical context about the Bangsamoro struggle, the role of traditional leaders, and their impact on local and national history can provide readers with a better understanding of the significance of these figures.
Community Collaboration: I welcome any guidance from experienced editors on how best to refine these articles. Collaborative efforts can ensure that the content is accurate, neutral, and informative.
By improving rather than deleting these articles, we not only preserve the history and culture of the Bangsamoro people but also contribute to a more diverse and inclusive representation of global history on Wikipedia, aligning with its mission of spreading knowledge.
Best regards,
Suficalcaluang
please refer to:
https://www.scribd.com/document/508811524/WITH-THE-BRAVEST-The-Untold-Story-of-the-Sulu-Freedom-Fighters-of-World-War-II
https://medium.com/@calhussin96/sayyid-captain-kalingalan-caluang-a-hero-of-wwii-and-champion-of-the-bangsamoro-people-53f9c0cf82d4
for questions on the writer:
Dr. Calingalan Hussin Caluang, MPH
Pioneer and Founding member of SALAAM-AdZU
Sunni, Ash’ari in Aqeeda, Shafi’i in Fiqh, Practitioner of Ilmuh Kamaasan(Bangsamoro Spirituality, Culture and Tradition)
Lineage Father Side: Calingalan Hussin Caluang
son of Former OIC Governor(1996) of Sulu Sayyid Sharif Al Hassan Caluang(Practitioner of Ilmuh Kamaasan, With Ijazah in the 41 Spiritual Orders/Tariqa in Sunni Islam)
son of Sayyid Sharif Hji Yahya Caluang (Elder Brother of Sayyid Al Hussein Caluang who was the MNLF Field Marshal and MNLF Top 90)
son of Sayyid Sharif Captain Kalingalan “Apuh Inggal” Caluang (First commander of the famed Combat Company of the Sulu Area Command and recipient of the Bronze Star Medal, Cousin of Sgt. Imam Marajukin L. Ahad, Cousin of Hj Ayyub Mammah son of Panglima Mammah son of Panglima Mangummah/Sakadudukan son of Sultan Muhammad Jamalul A’zam I)
son of Sayyid Sharif Caluang
son of Sayyid Sharif Panglima Bandahala (Right Hand and Relative of Sultan Jamalul Kiram II)
son of Sayyid Sharif Satya Munuh(famed as the Awliya/Saint of Tandah Sulu,respected relative of the Sultan and also said to be the Uncle of the Sultan in his time, relative of the hero of Sabah Paduka Datu Muhammad Salleh)
son of Sayyid Sharif Kasim/Qasim(Arab of Hadhrami Descent, tracing back his Lineage to the 7 Sunni Sufi Missionaries who brought Islam to the Philippines: Tuan Mashaykha,Shariful Hashim,Karim Makhdum, Tuan Maqbalu, Balfaki Alawi, some of the Wali Songo of Indonesia)
Lineage Mother Side: Calingala Hussin Caluang son of Marlene Tuando Hussin daughter of Sayyid-Sharif Usman Hashim Hussin(Descendant of the Sayyid-Sharif/Salip of Patikul, related to the Sayyid-Sharif Sarajan Family)
Note: Sharif is an Arabic title denoting descent from Imam Hassan bin Ali alayhimus salam, while Sayyid denotes descent from Imam Hussain bin Ali alayhimus salam. Both are descendants and grandsons of the Prophet Muhammad (sallallahu alayhi wa sallam).
Muqaddam Mutlaq(Authorized Representative) of the Tijaniyyah Tariqa:
Ø With Ijazah(Permission/ Certification) from Sayyiduna Shaykh Dahiru Usman Bauchi
(Grandshayh of Tijani Tariqa in Nigeria,Deputy chair of the Fatwa Committee of the Supreme Council Of Islamic Affairs (NSCIA) in Nigeria)
Ø With Ijazah(Permission/ Certification) from Sayyiduna Shaykh Imam Salah El Din Al Tijani Al Hasani
(Grandshaykh of Tijani Tariqa in Egypt, Polymath Islamic Scholar,Professor of Medicine at the Faculty Of Medicine Kasr Al Ainy of Cairo)
Ø With Ijazah(Permission/ Certification) from Sayyiduna Shaykh Mouhamadou Mahy Cisse
(Director of Studies at the African American Islamic Institute)
Ø With Ijazah(Permission/ Certification) in teaching, transmitting, spiritual formation of the 41 Spiritual Orders(Tariqa plural:Turuq ) of the Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jama’ah
Ø With Ijazah(Permission/ Certification) in the Science of Authenticating,Validating and Preserving Genealogy of the descendants of the Prophet Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wa sallam from the Naqib al-Ashraf (نقيب الأشراف: "Office of the Overseer of the Nobles" or "Chief of the Nobles") of Turkey and Algeria
Ø With Ijazah(Permission/ Certification) from Sayyiduna Shaykh Muhammad Al-Yaqoubi(author of Refuting ISIS: A Rebuttal Of Its Religious And Ideological Foundations)
Ø With Ijazah(Permission/ Certification) from Sayyiduna Shaykh Ali Gomaa(Former Grand Mufti of Egypt)
Ø With Ijazah(Permission/ Certification) from Sayyiduna Shaykh Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri(Founder of Minhaj-ul-Quran International and Pakistan Awami Tehreek, author of Fatwa on Terrorism and Suicide Bombings)
Affiliated with the Naqshbandi Tariqa and with Ijazah(Permission) from Sayyiduna Shaykh Muhammad Adil Rabbani Qaddasallahu Sirrahu
(Grandshaykh of the Naqshbandi Tariqa Worldwide )
Affiliated with the Qadiriyya Tariqa and with Ijazah(Permission) from Sayyiduna Shaykh Hashimuddin Gaylani
(Grandshaykh of the Qadiriyyah Tariqa Worldwide)
Affiliated with the Shadhiliyya Tariqa and with with Ijazah(Permission) from Sayyiduna Shaykh Dr. Nizar Jamili
(Shadhili Qadiri Tariqa under Shaykh As Sayyid Hazim Abu Ghazalah the Mufti and Head of the Jam-e-Yatu Darul Quran institution, Jordan)
Affiliated with the Rifai’iyyah Tariqa and with Ijazah(Permission) from Sayyiduna Shaykh Fawaz Al-Tabaa Al-Rifai Al-Hasani
(Member of the Association of Scholars of Ahrar al-Sham in Syria, Chairman of the Genealogy Investigation Committee in the Al-Sada Al-Ashraf Foundation in Syria)
Affiliated with the Chishtiyyah Tariqa and with Ijazah(Permission) from Sayyiduna Shaykh Ambar Chishti
(Chairman at Moinuddin Foundation, Ambassador of Peace at Institute of Peace and Development or INSPAD)
Affiliated with the Muridiyyah Tariqa and with Ijazah(Permission) from Sayyiduna Shaykh Bara Falilou Mbacke Qaddasallahu Sirrahu
(Shaykh of the Muridiyyah Tariqa, CEO of Shaykh Ahmadu Bamba Foundation, Head of Shariah Department African Institute of Islamic Finance) Suficalcaluang (talk) 15:26, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, and thank you for your feedback regarding the articles on Sayyid Capt. Kalingalan Caluang and Panglima Bandahala.
I understand the concerns raised about the sources and the structure of the articles. However, it is important to emphasize that these figures are significant historical personalities within the Bangsamoro narrative, and there are credible resources beyond the initial blog posts cited that provide detailed accounts of their lives, contributions, and the broader struggles of the Bangsamoro people. These articles aim to highlight an important part of Philippine and Islamic history that has often been neglected.
The representation of Bangsamoro history on platforms like Wikipedia is vital for the preservation and recognition of their culture, traditions, and the ongoing struggles for identity and autonomy. The information available about Sayyid Capt. Kalingalan Caluang and Panglima Bandahala contributes to understanding the complexities of the Bangsamoro's past, including their resistance and leadership. These contributions deserve to be documented and made accessible as part of Wikipedia's mission to share knowledge.
I am committed to revising and improving the articles to meet Wikipedia’s standards and address the current issues regarding source quality and notability. Ensuring that historically marginalized figures are properly represented on Wikipedia not only preserves cultural heritage but also educates a global audience about these important narratives.
Thank you for considering these points, and I look forward to contributing to the discussion constructively.
To address the issues raised, here are some steps we can take to improve the articles:
Strengthen Source Quality: We can work on finding and incorporating more reliable, secondary sources that directly discuss these individuals, ensuring that the information meets Wikipedia’s guidelines for notability and verifiability.
Refine the Content: The articles can be reorganized and rewritten to align with Wikipedia’s style and structure standards, removing any promotional or subjective language and focusing strictly on verifiable facts.
Expand Historical Context: Adding more historical context about the Bangsamoro struggle, the role of traditional leaders, and their impact on local and national history can provide readers with a better understanding of the significance of these figures.
Community Collaboration: I welcome any guidance from experienced editors on how best to refine these articles. Collaborative efforts can ensure that the content is accurate, neutral, and informative.
By improving rather than deleting these articles, we not only preserve the history and culture of the Bangsamoro people but also contribute to a more diverse and inclusive representation of global history on Wikipedia, aligning with its mission of spreading knowledge.
Best regards,
Suficalcaluang Suficalcaluang (talk) 15:42, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, per nom, that's why I tag it for unreliable source. Warm Regards, Miminity (talk)

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Time dilation creationism (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NFRINGE. I find no notice of this by WP:FRIND sources. Only creationists seem interested enough to comment. Wikipedia really is WP:NOT for discussing every flight-of-fancy that a creationist has about how to reconcile their religious beliefs with scientific facts. jps (talk) 20:42, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete No evidence of meeting notability guidelines, which would be provided by significant coverage in non-crackpot sources. AndyTheGrump (talk) 22:06, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy Keep per WP:FRINGE creationism and creation science should be described primarily as religious and political movements and the fact that claims from those perspectives are disputed by mainstream theologians and scientists should be directly addressed. Nom admits this is a religious, not scientific topic, and yet proposes to apply scientific article criteria to it, making this nomination completely erroneous and hence eligible for speedy keep per SK#3. The religious sources are sufficient and appropriate (independent, etc.) for GNG to be satisfied. Jclemens (talk) 00:47, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What an absurd argument. Creationists routinely present their arguments as 'scientific', and are clearly doing so in this particular instance. Just read the sources cited. Pseudoscience does not cease to be pseudoscience when promoted to support religious faith. AndyTheGrump (talk) 01:05, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Of course they do. And when they're doing so on a religious basis, religious rules apply, not FRINGE. Sorry if you don't like the guideline, but I didn't write it. Jclemens (talk) 05:20, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The relevant section in WP:FRINGE makes absolutely clear that it is referring to Notable perspectives and states the fact that claims from [e.g. creationist] perspectives are disputed by mainstream theologians and scientists should be directly addressed. The article presents zero evidence that either mainstream theologians nor mainstream scientists have even heard of this 'perspective', never mind bothered trying to address it. The only non-creationist source currently cited in the article doesn't even bother to describe the 'perspective' in any detail, instead mentioning "time dilation" in passing in a single sentence in a section on "Examples of Pseudoscience". [11] AndyTheGrump (talk) 11:16, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Did you read the article? In what way is this article describing the creation of the world on a purely religious basis? Are you claiming that Russell Humphreys believes that time dilation is some sort of theological allegory?! jps (talk) 14:55, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's literally using Christian-themed sources, 6 and 7 in particular. Christianity is still a religion... That's what the person was explaining. Oaktree b (talk) 03:03, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
To add to the above, the suggestion that the religious sources being cited are 'independent' is both questionable and irrelevant, since they clearly aren't reliable sources for anything but the beliefs of their own authors regarding an obscure theory. Nothing is cited that establishes that this particular pseudoscientific hypothesis is even significant within creationism. AndyTheGrump (talk) 02:26, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: I stripped out the science WP templates from the talk page as being non-relevant. The stub template was changed from cosmology to creationism. Beyond that I have no particular preference; it's pure pseudoscience so astronomy isn't all that relevant. Praemonitus (talk) 03:02, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Lacks notability in RS. Hemiauchenia (talk) 04:41, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep It should be kept in mind that the primary focus of the article is not scientific, but religious. It is a theological doctrine more than serious science. Thus it should be viewed with the criteria of a religious article. I did not intend to promote this thing when creating the article and I did not intend to promote fringe theories, but I thought that the article should be there to represent different religious doctrines. And as someone else already noted, WP:FRINGE reads: creationism and creation science should be described primarily as religious and political movements and the fact that claims from those perspectives are disputed by mainstream theologians and scientists should be directly addressed. Thus the point of the original deletion request does not seem to be valid. As a religious doctrine, there seems to be just enough coverage for it. --ValtteriLahti12 (talk) 05:53, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
See my response to Jclemens above. No evidence has been provided that this perspective/doctrine has been "disputed by mainstream theologians and scientists". Or discussed in any detail by non-creationist sources at all. There is no religious exception to Wikipedia notability criteria. AndyTheGrump (talk) 11:20, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The fact that you don't understand what is religious and what is not is not our responsibility. Science is testable under controlled, repeatable conditions; this is not. Jclemens (talk) 20:53, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Congratulations, you have just discovered pseudoscience. As for what is or isn't religious, I have a degree in anthropology, and accordingly could write an entire dissertation on why trying to divide things into the religious and the non-religious is a fools errand. Fortunately though, that is unnecessary, since Wikipedia doesn't take such questions into account when dismissing as non-notable obscure proposals regarding time dilation and the origins of the universe only discussed in unreliable sources. AndyTheGrump (talk) 21:09, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You realize you just ceded the point that this is a religious topic, right? That makes your critique of the sources as "crackpot" irrelevant and voids your !vote: the sources in the article may not be appropriate for a scientific discourse, but there's nothing obviously wrong with them as religious sources. Ken Ham and Answers in Genesis are reliable sources--torchbearers, really--for the literalist Genesis/YEC religious perspective, so notability is met unless this is entirely a non-religious topic, which you have just ceded you cannot definitively assess. Jclemens (talk) 04:05, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You now seem to be claiming that the mere fact that Ken Ham or Answers in Genesis have written about something makes it inherently notable. That is utterly absurd. AndyTheGrump (talk) 04:11, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Religious content can be crackpot. For example, this content. jps (talk) 15:28, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Given the complete lack of coverage in non-creationist sources, and the lack of evidence that this is even significant to creationism, there is nothing to move. AndyTheGrump (talk) 11:16, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's nonsense. If there's verifiable content--and there is--an appropriate merger is a perfectly valid ATD. Jclemens (talk) 04:05, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What "verifiable content" is there? The fantasies of Young Earth Creationists that no one else even bothers to notice? jps (talk) 15:28, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. There is literally a single WP:RS. That means no significant coverage, as in not notable, and that in fact it’s . We have long used WP:FRINGE to get rid of essays and pages that are little more than gee-whiz trivial nonsense, hey look at this kooky little idea. Bearian (talk) 03:19, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: I am sorry if I misjudged the worthiness of the topic to be on Wikipedia when I created it, I did not intend to promote fringe theories. If I was wrong, then it can just be deleted. I thought that since it is a religious topic and I was able to find multiple religious sources about it, then it could be worth its own article, but I may have been mistaken about their worthiness on such a topic. --ValtteriLahti12 (talk) 06:13, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    You don't need to apologize. WP:FRINGE is hard to get right especially as there are often sources that show up about fringe topics which superficially look reasonable (and might be in less, let's say, controversial areas). The general principle that I find works well is that we can have articles on fringe subjects when they are noticed by people who are not convinced that the fringe idea in question is necessarily correct, but where it gets confusing is when you have internecine disputes among fringe claimants so it looks like you have "independent analysis" in the sources when instead you are just looking at different flavors of fringe. Keeping topics out of Wikipedia for which sourcing cannot follow the WP:MAINSTREAM understanding is one of the better solutions we've arrived at to keep the integrity of the reference work high. The alternative is a free-for-all. jps (talk) 12:45, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Except that this isn't FRINGE. It's religious. It has "creationism" right there in the title. Jclemens (talk) 04:09, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Its fringe, even for creationism. And it isn't notable. AndyTheGrump (talk) 04:12, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Notable perspectives which are primarily non-scientific in nature but which contain claims concerning scientific phenomena should not be treated exclusively as scientific theory and handled on that basis. For example, the Book of Genesis itself should be primarily covered as a work of ancient literature, as part of the Hebrew or Christian Bible, or for its theological significance, rather than as a cosmological theory. Perspectives which advocate non-scientific or pseudoscientific religious claims intended to directly confront scientific discoveries should be evaluated on both a scientific and a theological basis, with acknowledgment of how the most reliable sources consider the subjects. For example, creationism and creation science should be described primarily as religious and political movements and the fact that claims from those perspectives are disputed by mainstream theologians and scientists should be directly addressed. Fringe theories that oppose reliably sourced research—denialist histories, for example—should be described clearly within their own articles, but should not be given undue weight in more general discussions of the topic. Emphasis mine. Jclemens (talk) 04:14, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I've already read that. And quoted it above. Where I pointed out that "mainstream theologians and scientists" have said absolutely nothing on this topic. Which is why it is fringe, why it isn't notable, and why an appropriate encyclopaedic article cannot be written. Wikipedia is a tertiary source. It bases articles on secondary sources, removed from the subject itself. Not on a few primary sources arguing the toss about pseudoscientific hokum amongst themselves. There is no religious exception to Wikipedia notability requirements. Notability is demonstrated through coverage in sources independent of the subject. AndyTheGrump (talk) 04:24, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Let it go, man. Your ridiculous misunderstanding is clearly not the consensus understanding of our community. If you want to change our rules, start a conversation elsewhere. jps (talk) 15:26, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
And yet, while I've disengaged, several others have come along and agreed with my perspective. I do not think the consensus is what you think it is. Jclemens (talk) 17:14, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or redirect: While fringe hypotheses can be notable, there isn't enough coverage of this one in WP:RS to warrant a separate article. Any content from this article that's up to standard should be merged/transcluded into one of the other articles on creationism. 0xchase (talk) 18:36, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect to Creation_science#Creationist_cosmologies and mention it by name there since the it is the "relativistic effects" mentioned. This comes up in teaching astronomy classes and there is a source:
Bobrowsky, Matthew (2005). "Dealing with Disbelieving Students on Issues of Evolutionary Processes and Long Time Scales". Astronomy Education Review. 4 (1): 95–118. doi:10.3847/AER2005007.
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Merge to Young_Earth_creationism#View_of_the_Bible as a parallel subsection as Interpretations_of_Genesis. The title is a highly specialized jargon that is exclusively related to the field of creationism, and as the article itself claims, it “is a form of the Young Earth creationism”. Given the current shortness of the article, a reader would frequently click back and forth between this and other pages related to creationism for a better understanding. It’s actually easier for readers if the short article be merged with a most relevant and more comprehensive article. Nihonjinatny (talk) 06:53, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: It's not clear to be relevant as a standalone idea to merit being talked about. And besides, the only criticism is from other creationists, the article still lacks a mention to the mainstream scientific ideas. And for those saying that "this is religion, not science", that distinction is only relevant on how we write the article. Notability, if we should have an article to begin with, is unconcerned by that. Neither religious nor scientific topics are automatically exempt from the notability guideline just because of their topic. Cambalachero (talk) 16:26, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete or redirect/merge if an appropriate target can be found. Current coverage is not sufficient and I am unable to locate additional coverage which would be either. Not seeing any pressing reasons to believe that such coverage does exist either. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 19:46, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete: The only RS I'd consider is 2, the Proceedings, and that's a big "if". Creation.com or Answers from genesis don't strike me as RS, and I don't find anything else that we can use to describe this phenomenon. Gscholar of course has nothing about this, so I'm not sure what we can use to build an article. Oaktree b (talk) 03:01, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: If we must !merge, the creationist cosmologies would be my choice... I don't even think this warrants more than a brief mention there. Deletion is still my choice. Oaktree b (talk) 03:07, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: WP:FRINGE seems to establish that things like creationism should be evaluated for notability on both a religious and scientific basis. That does not mean they are exempt from the guideline. The only reliable independent source is the Stephen Law chapter on the epistemology of pseudoscience which mentions this in a single sentence as an example of an argument a creationist might make. With respect to those who've suggested a merge, there simply is not anything that meets notability to merge here. Chaste Krassley (talk) 07:08, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Social value (definition) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NOTADICTIONARY and maybe WP:N. Also, the entire article seems to be written by ChatGPT. It should at most be a section in Value (ethics and social sciences) SecretSpectre (talk) 01:35, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of Czech Airlines destinations (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NOT, WP:NCORP, plain logic

Logic is failed because this is a largely a list of places that Czech Airlines wasn't flying to in February 2024, as is indicated by the overwhelming majority of them being listed as "terminated". Czech Airlines only flew to four destinations in February 2024, all of which are already mentioned on the Czech Airlines page, making this page redundant. Anyone asserting that these "terminated" destinations are of historical interest needs to show historical sourcing for that (i.e., historical journal, history book etc.) - Wikipedia is not the place to publish your own historical research about where an airline used to fly.

WP:NOT is failed because this is a complete listing of the services of a company. As such it is excluded under WP:NOTCATALOG no. 6 which states that "Listings to be avoided include [...] products and services". It is also an indiscriminate listing - all destinations ever flown to, however briefly, are listed without any attempt to summarise them which is against WP:IINFO.

WP:NCORP (which applies to the services of companies as well as the companies themselves) is failed because none of the sources here are independent, third-party, reliable sources. This article is largely sourced to old timetables published by the airline (e.g., this one), or to the company website, or to run-of-the-mill articles based on company press-releases and statements and trade-press coverage or local-news failing WP:AUD. Additionally, many of the links are 404, making them fail verifiability. Sources that clearly pass WP:ORGIND are needed, but none are present nor could I find any. FOARP (talk) 08:34, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Business, Aviation, Lists, and Czech Republic. FOARP (talk) 08:34, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Travel and tourism-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch 10:47, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep/merge It continues to be false that this falls under NOTCATLOGUE, as this is not used as a resource for conducting business, particularly if they're about to cease conducting business! The mere fact that people can be informed about the company's operations does not make it a business resource, nor are products and services broadly forbidden. A basic list of two countries and four continents is not a replacement of the information. The article needs more sources, but there is adequate coverage of the airline's operations to include its destinations here or in the main article. A link being dead does not mean the fact itself is impossible to verify or the whole article must be deleted. Listing former destination is not indiscrimination, but that could call for modifications rather than complete deletion. Reywas92Talk 13:23, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    This airline literally only flew to four destinations "As of February 2024". What is the point of listing places it possibly used to fly to at some point, but didn't fly to in Feb 2024, based on original research in primary sources? If the answer is "because of historical importance", then where are the historians covering this topic? PS - see also Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Air Malta destinations which recently closed as delete, which also covered an airline whose destinations were all "terminated", and where you made substantially the same arguments. FOARP (talk) 13:39, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - To expand on the WP:OR issue discussed above, take the listing of Tirana as a "Terminated" destination on this page. This is cited to a 1966 pamphlet issued by the airline, but that surely doesn't support a claim that the destination was "terminated" in February 2024? In fact there's no way to reach that conclusion with this data, because even if Tirana isn't included in Czech Airlines' current services, there's a bunch of different reasons why that might be so that don't involve them previously having gone there but now having terminated the service, including errors in the original claim (or the later claim that they don't fly there), Tirana having been a destination they planned to go to but never went to, Tirana being part of a wider network, and the flight still being operated.
In fact, according to the airline website, Czech Airlines do still fly to Tirana.
Now this might seem like a minor, one-off error, but in fact this entire list was largely assembled using the same approach of synthesising primary sources to reach a conclusion that they don't actually support. Moreover this is repeated across the entire corpus of airline-destination articles as a whole. FOARP (talk) 13:32, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nomination, various WP:not violations hamster717🐉(discuss anything!🐹✈️my contribs🌌🌠) 15:53, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Askew Saddlery Company (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Reviewed during NPP. Only has a single source, and no additional reliable sources were found online. Does not satisfy WP:NCORP or WP:GNG. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talkcontribs) 01:05, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Jay Anson (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Redirect to The Amityville Horror. I did WP:BEFORE and there are a lot of reviews of The Amityville Horror and notices about his death. I wasn't able to find anything else about him outside of those two events. I checked Archive.org and Google but nothing was jumping out at me. Since I nominated this article if anyone finds some sources please ping me so I can add them to the article and I'll withdraw the nomination. Dr vulpes (Talk) 00:52, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Update: I found additional obituaries of Anson in the LA Times, The Times of London, and the Washington Post. I've also found a 1978 article in People magazine that goes into details of Anson's life while covering the lawsuits and questions over the book, a "Milestones" mention of Anson's death in Time magazine on 3/24/1980, a short obituary in Starburst Magazine, and the same in The American Annual: 1981. Finally and most significantly, he has a detailed entry in The Contemporary Authors New Revision Series (volume 29, 1990, page 19). I'll add info from these sources to the article if it is kept.--SouthernNights (talk) 18:06, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A Beautiful Lie Tour (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Redirect to either Thirty Seconds to Mars or A Beautiful Lie. I did WP:BEFORE on Google, Newspapers.com and Archive.org. I was able to find newspaper articles about a tour that happened to promote the release of A Beautiful Lie but I couldn't find anything about the tour being called "A Beautiful Lie Tour". I looked at the way the Lights in the Sky tour was handled for Nine Inch Nails and it directs to the album it was promoting The Slip (album). Dr vulpes (Talk) 00:37, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Plants vs. Zombies (disambiguation) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Only the first game and the franchise go by the name of just simply "Plants vs. Zombies" meaning that this disambiguation page is absolutely not needed. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 00:21, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

* Speedy Keep Sources were easy to find that call the games Plants vs. Zombies 2 etc. Dr vulpes (Talk) 00:57, 4 September 2024 (UTC) [reply]

    • Schiller, Mike (2013-09-20). "Game Picks". The News and Observer. Raleigh, North Carolina, United States of America. pp. D2. Retrieved 2024-09-03. 'Plants Vs. Zombies 2' "Plants vs. Zombies 2" (iPhone; Free; Rated 9+) is a little more graceful about the way it goes about the free-to-play business model, as it rarely feels as though paying is a requirement to enjoying the game. While it is frustrating that, after finishing one world, you have to either pay money or collect stars by replaying levels, collecting stars never really feels like that much of a chore. This is largely in part to another challenge system. Rather than simply doing what you've already done, you get variations on the levels with new requirements. It's a good thing they took the approach of offering variations on the levels, too, because the core play style of "Plants Vs. Zombies 2".
    • Snow, Nathan (2017-04-28). "Plants vs Zombies Heroes great strategy intro". The Daily Spectrum. Saint George, Utah, United States of America. pp. A4. Retrieved 2024-09-03.
    • Delete I'm a fool and managed to misread multiple things. Dr vulpes (Talk) 02:15, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What does that have to do with the disambiguation page? No one is suggesting we delete Plants vs. Zombies 2 page itself... Sergecross73 msg me 01:52, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oops I thought they were talking about the game titles having more content in them then just Plants vs Zombies. Guess I misread that one! Dr vulpes (Talk) 02:13, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No worries, kind of figured it was something like that. Sergecross73 msg me 03:47, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, but those games are not called Plants Vs. Zombies. QuicoleJR (talk) 02:06, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Viva Van (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article deleted by consensus last month; G4 Speedy contested. Additional sources added by contester still don't appear to meet GNG as they are either results/routine coverage or interviews with the subject. ― "Ghost of Dan Gurney" (talk)  21:14, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep: I've added more sources to the article where she is the primary topic. One source is Pro Wrestling Illustrated, which is a generally reliable source on WikiProject Pro Wrestling's list of sources, as well as an interview conducted by Denise Salcedo. Salcedo is an employee of Wrestling Observer Newsletter and Fightful, both of which are considered reliable sources by the aforementioned list. These new sources, in addition to sources already in the article, help her clear WP:SIGCOV criteria. CeltBrowne (talk) 21:11, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Interviews of the subject cannot be used to meet WP:GNG due to not being independent of the subject. Both of the sources you added were interviews with the subject. I'm still not seeing anything in the article which indicates the subject has met GNG in the month since the last article was deleted (which, if this is kept, should be undeleted and attributed to, since I don't think there was much different). ― "Ghost of Dan Gurney" (talk)  21:44, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment As I pointed, my main concern is the sources. Wrestlers need reliable sources focusing on them. Most of the article is just WP:RESULTS, that means, reports about TV shows where she worked, but the report is not about her. We can use Cagematch and create articles for every wrestler on the planet, that's why we need to include sources about the wrestler. For example, AEW section has 5 sources, 4 of them, WP:RESULTS. ROH section has 1 source, which is WP:RESULTS (Her ROH career isn't notable). Impact Wrestling has one source, WP:RESULTS. Almost every match on the Independent Circuit it's WP:RESULTS (I don't get why her work with Hoodslam it's relevant at all). We can't just take matches from famous promotions to create an article. On the other side, it's fine to read articles from Denice or Miami Herald about her. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 11:24, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I think the Denice interview has too little secondary context to base a BLP article off of it, especially so since in this instance it's published on The Sportster which is redlisted at WP:RS/PS#Valnet and specifically listed as unreliable at WP:PW/RS. The PWI interview is literally just the raw interview on YouTube. Even if we count Miami Herald, that's still one source. ― "Ghost of Dan Gurney" (talk)  16:24, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting. This article is a moving target as sources are being added and removed during the course of this discussion. Sources that merely mention an appearance in a match and pure interviews are not considered SIGCOV. A source assessment table might help settle the disagreement over the quality of the sources.
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I don't see this company meeting SIGCOV or even NCORP. The article mostly relies on sources tied to the organization, GENREL sources and even sources thats falls under WP:NEWSORGINDIA — Saqib (talk I contribs) 15:59, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Delete per lacking SIGCOV Babysharkboss2!! (Nomad Vagabond) 18:24, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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I believe this fails WP:NORG. Aside from the promotional tone, most of the references appear to be press releases. Additionally, the reference from CBS News is just a local TV interview from KMAX-TV which is promotional in nature. The New York Times reference leads nowhere. I think redirecting this article to Jane Velez-Mitchell should be sufficient. Limmidy (talk) 00:00, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Limmidy.
I really appreciate that you have taken the time to review this article. I ask that you please reconsider your recommendation "for deletion".
1. I am an avid user of UnchainedTV and am an animal rights activist. Thus, my interest in writing and publishing this article.
2. Your comment that it fails WP.NORG. : Please note that UnchainedTV is a not for profit endeavour and provides all content 100% free and does not even require a subscription, a membership nor signing up, etc.
3. WP.NORG clearly states: "The scope of this guideline covers all groups of people organized together for a purpose with the exception of non-profit educational institutions, religions or sects, and sports teams.". According to their website they are a non-profit education institution: "UnchainedTV is part of the JaneUnChained News Network, a 501 c-3 non-profit, EIN number 82-3892784." Thus it meets the rule of "exception".
4. Well noted on the press releases, the CBS news interview, the NY Times deadline and the recommendation to link to the founder. ---After I hear back from you on the issue of "Article for Deletion", I will then fix all points in #3 above.
Again, I really appreciate your time on this. all my best, 444wiki444 (talk) 00:31, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please note that UnchainedTV is a not for profit endeavour and provides all content 100% free and does not even require a subscription, a membership nor signing up, etc is just blatant advertising. WP:NORG applies to all organizations, for-profit or not. The exceptions you've listed are for schools, religions and sports teams. Clearly this streaming website is not a school or any type of "educational institution". And even if was, WP:GNG still applies here. C F A 💬 00:51, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@444wiki444: Did you use AI to write this article? C F A 💬 01:05, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete blatant WP:PROMO, the sources provided is just WP:SIGCOV failing WP:GNG Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 11:38, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]