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Removal of unsourced planned metro stystem and under construction

There are many unsourced and fantasist metro systems in these categories. I suggest removal of all the unsourced metro systems. Also, it should be clarified what should the ''planned'' section contain. How can we even source this ? Some articles with some politicians promising the construction of an hypothetic metro system doesn't sound like a valid source. I vote for the removal of this section. Capt'n London (talk) 15:03, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, there's a reason the inclusion was always "shovels in the ground". I objected to the addition of a "planned" section for that very reason: no actual physical infrastructure exists, so they are not a system yet. Saint until some actual construction happens and put them in that section when it does. oknazevad (talk) 09:44, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

actually sometimes infrastructure for a planned metro exists before it is ever built. This may range from small tunnel segments to entire railroads or elevated lines which were built at some point in the past - sometimes with the explicit goal of conversion to metro but sometimes not.

Just look at the history of Athens Metro or Vienna U-Bahn or the Zürich U-Bahn and Cincinnati subway that never were but which still have/had tunnels you can See... 2001:A62:142C:9802:C15C:FFA8:C202:7093 (talk) 03:36, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, in those cases construction had begun, but was abandoned before opening, not plans being cancelled before construction began. Infrastructure can't exist before it's built. oknazevad (talk) 09:39, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed the planned section based on the long-standing consensus seen in the talk page archives multiple times. It was added without discussion despite being previously rejected multiple times. It must not be re-added based on WP:CRYSTALBALL. oknazevad (talk) 09:53, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Absolutely. Ymblanter (talk) 10:59, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Valencia (metrovalencia) is missing

Metrovalencia is missing in the list. It is the second longest metro system in Spain, so I think it is relevant to add it. Rgc1994 (talk) 10:44, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Previous discussions have found consensus that it is light rail, and so it is present at List of tram and light rail transit systems. CMD (talk) 10:53, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Chipmunkdavis And how do you explain zh:Talk:地鐵列表#关于西班牙的地铁认定 where zhwiki provided a valid against reason to against that "consensus"? Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 06:03, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't explain zh.wiki, it has no bearing on en.wiki. CMD (talk) 06:15, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Chinese Wikipedia is irrelevant to the English Wikipedia. oknazevad (talk) 14:42, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References formatting

Why are the citations split into subsections? GraemeLeggett (talk) 07:32, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Definition of "metro" needs clarification

The article contents and "Under construction" list seems to imply that "metro" refers exclusively to an 'underground'/'subway' system. However, the link to the definition of 'metro' in the first paragraph is to the article on 'Rapid transit', which is an expansive definition including both underground/subway systems and overground systems. Despite this, while the two 'first' Melbourne metro lines might be Melbourne's first underground/subway systems, the city has had a Rapid Transit (or metro depending on how you define it) for decades. I'd suggest that the article should clarify whether 'metro' is referring to an underground/subway system, a system with components that are underground/subways or Rapid transit where the system type is irrelevant. If it is the latter, then the "under construction" list will need to be modified since many listed are not the countries' 'first' rapid transit systems. Mcl.hill (talk) 14:40, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Melbourne has never had a rapid transit system. It has had an suburban rail system, full of level crossings and tracks shared with regional services and goods trains. These sorts of systems exist in hundreds of cities.--Grahame (talk) 14:51, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

South Korea*

In South korea metro list alot of commuter rails as well as light metro systems are added, which isn't a rapid transit system. We should remove such systems from this page. 2402:8100:3875:DD74:4FF:6C18:CE6F:CEBE (talk) 00:20, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

what about Carmelit underground in Israel?

I saw this wasn't included in the list. Was curious if it was an accidental or purposeful omission:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carmelit 120.20.79.105 (talk) 17:16, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@120.20.79.105 it's a funicular railway, not a metro, funicular railways are not metros and they don't belong here Metrosfan (talk) 03:01, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]