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English name
[edit]Why does the article have his name as Tchaikovsky when the Russian spelling starts with Ч? Very clearly it should be Chaikovsky. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LarsMarius (talk • contribs) 23:03, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
- WP:COMMONNAME. Sometimes it is romanized as "tch", in some languages it is the case. Mellk (talk) 23:29, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
- In fact I would say that the romanisation is virtually always "tch..."; I have never seen the composer's name spelt Chaikovsky in any English language publication. Sbishop (talk) 08:21, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
- I suggest you read more widely, e.g. The Joy of Music. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 08:31, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
- I meant in general for the letter "ч", but in this case it is often "tch". Mellk (talk) 12:11, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
- I meant that Bernstein consistently uses "Chaikovsky", and he's not alone. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 12:35, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
- In fact I would say that the romanisation is virtually always "tch..."; I have never seen the composer's name spelt Chaikovsky in any English language publication. Sbishop (talk) 08:21, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
- Maybe alternative romanizations could be placed in an EFN? InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 02:05, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
- I think that's a great idea. — Shibbolethink (♔ ♕) 17:10, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
- The combination tch- in initial position is unknown in English and very rare in other languages. The composer's name was long spelt in the German way, as Tschaikowsky. Then, someone decided we anglophones could do without teutonic influences, and changed the w to v, and the Tsch to Tch. But why not plain Ch? I can only assume it was to distinguish it from the /x/ sound, usually spelt as ch (as in loch, l'chaim, etc). But it solved a non-existent problem; nobody ever said "Khaikovsky". Whatever, "Tchaikovsky" is here to stay. We also have Tcherepnin et a few al. But not Tchekhov, at least not anymore. -- Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 01:00, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
Was not able to edit this page
[edit]I wanted to add a wikilink to this article, but found that it is locked from editing. Please fix this ridiculous situation! 173.88.246.138 (talk) 01:05, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
- Due to persistent vandalism the page is semi-protected and can be edited only by auto-confirmed users. You can become one, but in the meantime if you state here which wikilink you want inserted, another user can add it if appropriate. Sbishop (talk) 06:45, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
- @173.88.246.138: you could become an autoconfirmed user if you create an account and made 10 edits after 4 days. QiuLiming1 (talk) 21:58, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
- Subscript 213.3.38.108 (talk) 08:16, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Due to persistent vandalism the page is semi-protected and can be edited only by auto-confirmed users. You can become one, but in the meantime if you state here which wikilink you want inserted, another user can add it if appropriate. Sbishop (talk) 06:45, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
Relationship with Bob
[edit]The wording of this section suggests that Tchiakovsky’s letters penned after Bob’s suicide were revealing. Tchaikovsky in fact died nearly 20 years before the suicide of Bob. 2604:3D09:1887:B000:4141:EB9:FAF1:6BBF (talk) 17:41, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, that is confusing. 73.141.78.51 (talk) 17:35, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
Should we use it? It was made the same year (albeit before) he died and I think it is the only painting of him made in his lifetime. Wikieditor662 (talk) 06:25, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- What makes it better than the current high-quality photograph? Aza24 (talk) 15:58, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- I didn't say it has to be in the lead (although perhaps that is an option), I just pointed out the option to add it to the article - perhaps at around the time soon before he died Wikieditor662 (talk) 03:40, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- It is a nice painting, and rather frequently reproduced. This article is rather-below FA standard and will need heavy revision at some point. For instance, I just trimmed some excessive images and there's still no place for the painting. We should keep this on the back burner, pending article expansion. Aza24 (talk) 21:44, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- I didn't say it has to be in the lead (although perhaps that is an option), I just pointed out the option to add it to the article - perhaps at around the time soon before he died Wikieditor662 (talk) 03:40, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
Number of portraits
[edit]The number of photographs was overdoing it. But I do regret the loss of some of them. Maybe being a simple soul I like to think about people as having recongisable faces. And for that reason I regret the loss of some close associates: Chakovskiy's wife, the very importanat Nadyezhda von Meck, whose husband had made a fortune from the railway line that took Ukrainian wheat to RUssia, etc.
Could we have some of these pictures back please? Foiled circuitous wanderer (talk) 15:13, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
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