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Aguike

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Fails WP:MUSICBIO and it has no enough reliable and secondary sources to meet the requirement for WP:GNG Ibjaja055 (talk) 11:43, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Shaddy Jay

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Fails WP:MUSICBIO Ibjaja055 (talk) 11:13, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Therese Moodie-Bloom

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Doesn't meet WP:GNG, WP:NBIO or WP:NACADEMIC. Can't find any secondary SIGCOV. AlexandraAVX (talk) 10:49, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete? Can't see any notability yet. Xxanthippe (talk) 11:18, 10 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Jan Vydra

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Thus article has been tagged for notability for ten years. It looks very doubtful to me - plenty of sources, but about non-notable awards, local coverage, listicle and stuff that doesn’t really look in-depth. The article looks to me like PR based in the success of prior PR. . Mccapra (talk) 10:47, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Matúš Turňa

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Another long-time stub of a Slovak footballer named Matúš, he last played for Spartak Trnava in 2021 before disappearing from the football world. My Google showed nothing better than brief mentions and routine coverage, including this one. I've checked corresponding articles in other Wikipedia languages but none of them provide significant coverage; the Slovak one has been tagged for notability issues since 2021 so it obviously will not help copy over English article. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 10:00, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment he last played for Spartak Trnava in 2021 before disappearing from the football world. Well, he was 35 in 2021 so probably retired. Over a 12-year career between 2009 and 2021 Turňa made close to 300 appearances in the Slovak First Football League, the first tier of Slovakian football which was fully professional in all of that time (Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Fully professional leagues). I'd be surprised if there's no WP:SIGCOV; I'll have a look later. Robby.is.on (talk) 10:58, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

16th Artillery Brigade (Ukraine)

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Fails WP:GNG. Can't find any sources online, possibly redirect to National Guard of Ukraine? ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 09:27, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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(https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61559047920465), (https://www.ukrdruk.com/product/flag-00853/), (https://www.ukrinform.ua/rubric-ato/3888632-u-nacgvardii-stvorili-centr-upravlinna-bezpilotnih-sistem-komanduvac.html) Mgfdhsrhe (talk) 10:59, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of Drum Corps International World Championship finalists

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I don’t know what to make of this. WP:NOTADATABASE. Hodgepodge of unsourced statistics. MOS:ACCESS violations that I don’t even know how to begin to address. Bgsu98 (Talk) 08:55, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Adedoyin Oseni

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No enough reliable and secondary sources to establish notability. Only few advertorials by mostly unreliable media, no album and winning of unreliable award Ibjaja055 (talk) 08:29, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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2nd XV Leagues in Scotland

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Non-notable league, unreferenced. Fails WP:GNG. I haven't found any coverage online, though admittedly, I'm not familiar with this topic area at all. As such, please ping me if sources are found. Thanks. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 08:25, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The Wind (band)

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Discovered page after the South Korean boy group of the same name. [1] and [2] don’t work. The only sources are a mention of the band and an interview, don’t see a reason to be kept. CherryPie94 🍒🥧 (talk) 08:23, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Wisconsin Underwater Archaeology Association

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I have been unable to find secondary, independent, reliable sources that provide significant coverage of this association. The only coverage is in news stories about ships they've found, and those focus on the ships, not the association. The founder of this association might be notable, since he is a published author, but notability is not inherited. voorts (talk/contributions) 15:01, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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City of Lions

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I wasn't able to find significant coverage of the subject in reliable sources (or really any coverage). toweli (talk) 14:57, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Couldn't find WP:SIGCOV that would satisfy WP:NMUSIC. Longhornsg (talk) 04:20, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Together Under One Sun

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Both the slogan and the event lack notability. There are barely any sources. StephenMacky1 (talk) 14:44, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment, it would probably be better to have the article moved to '20th anniversary celebrations of the independence of the Republic of Macedonia'. The event seems notable in its own right. --Soman (talk) 11:26, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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List of Swedish detainees at Guantanamo Bay

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Also nominating the following articles for the same reason:

Fails WP:NLIST. One of 20+ extraneous articles created by now-WP:CBANed user Geo Swan, unnecessarily breaking out the List of Guantanamo Bay detainees into country-by-country counts. The large list includes detainees' nationalities. If separating by nationality is necessary, the chart on that page can be reformatted to enable such an examination. What this has led to is pages of various encyclopedic quality and accuracy, when maintaining one article, out of date in its own right, is more than enough. Longhornsg (talk) 04:10, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Should we be deleting all of the nation lists on the Template:Guantanamo Bay Detainees? If not, why these particular ones? (I'm likely supporting deletion, just trying to understand the situation.) -- Nat Gertler (talk) 07:02, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I would say that any list with only one entry should be a redirect to an article on the individual. AlexandraAVX (talk) 07:15, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes the rest should be added to AfD. Longhornsg (talk) 07:59, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Procedural keep, the nominated articles are very different from each other (Danish and Swedish has one entry each, Afghan states there have been over 200). AlexandraAVX (talk) 07:17, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

SMW+

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Dubious notability. I spotchecked several of the sources and most are not independent, dead, or do not discuss this specific software package (as opposed to Semantic MediaWiki which is clearly notable) in sufficient depth to qualify as significant coverage * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 04:01, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Majid Mahmud Abdu Ahmad

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Redirect to List of Guantanamo Bay detainees. There were almost 800 detainees at Guantanamo, not all of them notable, especially by Wikipedia standards. Being detained at a famous prison does not confer notability, otherwise everyone incarcerated at ADX Florence should have an article as well. In the almost two decades since many of the standalone pages for detainees were created, many of them have properly been redirected to the list articles. Ahmad is another such non-notable detainee. Longhornsg (talk) 04:01, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: per WP:BLP1E TarnishedPath^talk 06:04, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Clue (information)

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As an article for concept of a clue, I don't really like. For a simple concept, it is as dull as an article for the concept of quality, say for, which there is not because that page is just a disambiguation page. Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not a dictionary may provide explanations on how to improve this article, but I'm focused on deleting it. So, what do you think? QuantumFoam66 (talk) 03:57, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: This type of article is known as a broad-concept article and they can often be hard to write without looking like dictionary definitions. Theoretically there probably should be another broad-concept article at Quality, but there isn't. Since this is such a common term, I don't see how this wouldn't meet GNG. C F A 💬 04:10, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep This article defines or gives examples of 1) the concept (information), 2) its different values (share/give/pay), 3) how it is relayed (discovered/shared), 4) its mechanic (ludeme/cheat), 5) its format (straight/cryptic/riddles/contradictions) 6) its etymology. All of this can eventually be expanded and more concrete exemples can be added. "clue" may seem to be a simple concept, but the article shows there are many aspects to it that may not seem obvious at first glance. Writing something that is obvious (or "dull") is because what is obvious to one reader may be a valuable insight to another. As stated in Wikipedia:Wikipedia_is_not_a_dictionary#Major_differences, Wiktionary entries are about words themselves, while Wikipedia entries are articles about what words denote. This article falls into the latter category. --Bensin (talk) 13:17, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Obvious failure of WP:NOTDICTIONARY. The article fails to demonstrate it can stand on its own as a broad concept article. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 21:05, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

According to Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not#Wikipedia_is_not_a_dictionary, the following are dictionary entries:

1) Definitions ("contain nothing more than a definition") – No. The article also contains use, value, form, and examples. It also has a well sourced section on context clues.

2) Dictionary entries – No. "Encyclopedia articles are about [...] a concept", which is the case here.

3) Usage, slang, or idiom guides – No. "Clue" is not a slang term.

Please explain in what way you think the article fails WP:NOTDICTIONARY. --Bensin (talk) 22:42, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It fails (1) since it's nothing more than a couple of definitions, with the rest being WP:OR. Where are the sources on clues as a concept? If there were even a single one there, I might think differently. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 01:57, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The article is more than definitions, as I listed in my previous response. Yes, I have had difficulties finding sources for clues in games, possibly because most of it is common knowledge. I'll try and find some. Is there a particular statement that you believe to be untrue? However, the section about context clues is well sourced. --Bensin (talk) 14:24, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I added three book sources for the section about clues in games. --Bensin (talk) 17:07, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete all of the sources being other dictionary entries tells you what you need to know.

The article also contains use, value, form, and examples those things are very typical of what you'd find in a dictionary, the corresponding wikitionary entry has all of those things. in fact usage guides are specifcally mentioned in point #3 that Bensin quoted above as being characteristic of a dictionary entry.

It also has a well sourced section on context clues that is just another dictionary definition of a related term - having two dictionary definitions doesn't mean the article fails NOTDICTIONARY any less. -- D'n'B-t -- 10:54, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

None of the sources for context clues are dictionary entries. Those sources are articles that support the facts in the article.

Can you quote the part of the wikitionary entry that contains how clues (not the word clue) are used, their value, or their form? The wikipedia article is about what the word denotes, not about the word itself. --Bensin (talk) 14:24, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That is also not in this article, save for few lines of OR. -- D'n'B-t -- 17:37, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What is not in the article? What is unsourced original research? --Bensin (talk) 17:46, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. This doesn't seem to be a broad-concept article, so much as a WP:CHIMERA article instead. I'm looking at the examples given at WP:BCA, and I just don't see this coming even close to any of them. Take the example of "particle" there (in physics). There's a core concept that all particles share that can be written about encyclopedically, as a broad topic. But the only thing that's common here is "a clue is something which hints at further knowledge". That's it, and that's merely a DICDEF, which isn't suitable for an entry here. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 22:14, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
For WP:BCA there is a section "Common aspects of sports and games" which lists the article Dead ball. Would you call that article a chimera too? --Bensin (talk) 15:10, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If you have a point to make, I fail to see it. You're pushing well into WP:BLUDGEONing territory here. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 15:26, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That is not an answer to the question in my post. --Bensin (talk) 19:05, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I’m leaning keep as a this could be a start to something much better. Bearian (talk) 01:55, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Kennedy Watches

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This appears to be run of the mill retail chain. No claims for notability have been made. Grahame (talk) 03:29, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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National Security Action Memorandum 235

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Delete or redirect to Presidency of John F. Kennedy as WP:AtD. One of hundreds of executive actions by President John Kennedy, not all of which have notability as evidenced by their WP:LASTING significance of WP:SIGCOV. There are some passing references [1] [2] in books, but nothing that justifies a standalone article or that can't be covered in better context in the redirect. Longhornsg (talk) 03:19, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Rosehill College

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Unable to find independent SIGCOV. There are news articles talking about the school but they are about incidents at the school rather than any deep coverage on the school. Traumnovelle (talk) 02:55, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Secondary schools in New Zealand are generally notable. There will have been in-depth coverage in the 1970s when the school was established, but those records aren't generally online. Schwede 66 10:14, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rosehill Intermediate

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Cannot find any sigcov of school. Everything I can find is just a trivial passing mention. Traumnovelle (talk) 02:51, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Seven Leaves

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Fails WP:NCORP and WP:GNG.

Looking at the four refs in the article, the first is discussing a large company failing and just mentions a quote from Seven Leaves' CEO on the subject, the second and third are merely routine coverage, and the fourth merely briefly mentions Seven Leaves' branding strategy along with several other companies.

I performed a WP:BEFORE check, and can't find any more coverage, significant or otherwise. Bestagon ⬡ 02:48, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Royal Order of the Lion of Godenu

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The subject doesn't appear to have significant coverage in reliable sources. The references presently being used don't establish notability. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Royal Order of the Elephant of Godenu (now deleted) for a related nomination. toweli (talk) 01:23, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Leaning Merge with Godenu. If this is notable, then there should be news/media stories about individuals who have been awarded this honor, or even obituaries mentioning it. A search of Google news and Bing news did not show any. If anyone knows of any Ghanan newspapers with such articles, that might change things. Darkfrog24 (talk) 19:02, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete. Pure promo. --Greens vs. Blacks (talk) 18:47, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Marko Levishyn

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Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. Only primary sources provided. LibStar (talk) 02:12, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom, lacks WP:SIGCOV as the sources is just databases Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 05:06, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep rode in the Speedway World Cup, the pinnacle of speedway Pyeongchang (talk) 10:07, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: I support Pyeongchang's assertion that the SWC is "the pinnacle of speedway". We allow bios of sports that is the pinnacle of sport, so why can't this? SpacedFarmer (talk) 20:49, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It still needs to meet WP:SPORTSCRIT: A person is presumed to be notable if they have been the subject of significant coverage, that is, multiple published non-trivial secondary sources which are reliable, intellectually independent, and independent of the subject LibStar (talk) 05:03, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
...or I say userfy for future notabiity since he is young and plenty to go. This nom maybe is a bio thus presumably different but I'll use this as an argument. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2024 Sakhir Formula 3 round. SpacedFarmer (talk) 10:21, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Crossed square cupola

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No sources are mentioned about the crossed square cupola. It is merely an exhibition and the problem of arranging images had already been discussed in WT:WPM. Also, many related articles on those tables, I suppose, does not have any sources. That being said, I think they could possibly be deleted together in here, but sadly this is for one article only. Dedhert.Jr (talk) 01:35, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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List of Stanley Cup Western Conference Finals broadcasters

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No indication of reliable, secondary sources, aside from WP:ROUTINE sources, to satisfy WP:LISTN. Conyo14 (talk) 01:25, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also nominating List of Stanley Cup Eastern Conference Finals broadcasters for the same reason. Conyo14 (talk) 01:30, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I will cite reliable sources to make sure it does not get deleted. Khoa41860 (talk) 01:39, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - What's next? A list of ice cleaners in the Conference Finals? GoodDay (talk) 03:54, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete and salt: I doubt anything has changed since the first nomination, back in 2016, that sufficiently resolves the notability concerns here. This is actually the second time this year the creator has created these lists — the first attempts, in January, were speedily deleted as G4 (the 2016 nomination closed as delete). I don't know if G4 is still sufficiently valid here, but the potential of persistent recreation will inevitably lead to salting sooner rather than later. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 05:25, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I dont have the ability to see prior versions of this article. Though if it appears that the content was copied, then I would definitely say speedy. Conyo14 (talk) 06:01, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Battle of Rumal

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Low quality article about a relatively non notable event with limited coverage within sources. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 01:26, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - from a quick glance at Google books there are various mentions of this battle. Notability is not temporary, so if it was notable at the time it is enough for inclusion in Wikipedia. AfD is not the place to raise quality concerns. --Soman (talk) 10:28, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Battle of Bajrur

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Low quality article about a non notable event with limited coverage within sources + the third ref does not contain a link to a book whose content can be verified. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 01:25, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Purdue Homeland Security Institute

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Delete or redirect to Purdue University. Not much on this page to salvage for a merge. Fails WP:NORG and coverage is largely WP:ROUTINE. Longhornsg (talk) 00:51, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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2004 conference on US privatization of national security

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Redirect to Private intelligence agency. Fails WP:NEVENT: the conference was a routine academic conference with no WP:LASTING effect, and coverage lacks WP:DEPTH. Better covered in the context of the privatization of intelligence and national security, hence the redirect target. Longhornsg (talk) 00:47, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Guardian (database)

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Redirect to Federal Bureau of Investigation, where the information is already covered. Database, one of likely hundreds that the FBI uses, is not notable on its own and is better covered on the agency's page. Longhornsg (talk) 00:43, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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