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Merge with Ethnocide[edit]

I read this page and Ethnocide, and it seems that these concepts are extremely similar, or even identical. I guess it would be better to merge them. Probably into this page, since it has much more content and more incoming links from articles (1100 vs. 850). The merged page should probably explain the similarities and differences (if there are any) between the concepts.

A similar merge proposal was discussed in 2014/2015, but the discussion was archived without reaching a consensus, as far as I can tell. — Chrisahn (talk) 10:23, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I found an even older merge discussion (2007-2010) which remained unresolved. Lack of consensus mentioned here. — Chrisahn (talk) 10:41, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Disagree, since ethnicity and culture are not identical HudecEmil (talk) 19:10, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, but that's not the point. Please read the (attempted) definitions of Ethnocide and Cultural genocide. There appears to be no discernible difference. If you can find a difference in these definitions, please explain it. — Chrisahn (talk) 19:23, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This source Hall, Thomas D., and James V. Fenelon. "The futures of indigenous peoples: 9-11 and the trajectory of indigenous survival and resistance." journal of world-systems research (2004): 153-197. argues a distinction between cultural genocide and ethnocide: a separate ethnic identity stays, but distinct culture eliminated. Also discussed in The SAGE Handbook of Nations and Nationalism "The term 'ethnocide' has in the past been used as a replacement for cultural genocide (Palmer 1992; Smith 1991:30-3), with the obvious risk of confusing ethnicity and culture." Though it seems to me both articles could be clearer on the distinction. HudecEmil (talk) 20:19, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]