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June 23 | 1 | |
June 26 | 2 | 1 |
June 28 | 3 | 1 |
June 30 | 1 | 1 |
July 1 | 1 | 1 |
July 2 | 1 | 1 |
July 3 | 1 | 1 |
July 4 | 2 | |
July 5 | 4 | |
July 6 | 1 | 1 |
July 7 | 3 | 2 |
July 8 | 2 | 1 |
July 9 | 1 | |
July 10 | 2 | 1 |
July 12 | 1 | 1 |
July 13 | 5 | 2 |
July 14 | 5 | 4 |
July 15 | 3 | 1 |
July 16 | 5 | 5 |
July 17 | 5 | 4 |
July 18 | 3 | |
July 19 | 10 | 8 |
July 20 | 3 | 3 |
July 21 | 7 | 5 |
July 22 | 6 | 4 |
July 23 | 6 | 4 |
July 24 | 10 | 5 |
July 25 | 16 | 5 |
July 26 | 6 | 2 |
July 27 | 8 | 5 |
July 28 | 17 | 8 |
July 29 | 10 | 5 |
July 30 | 5 | 2 |
July 31 | 5 | 3 |
August 1 | 9 | 4 |
August 2 | 6 | 3 |
August 3 | 8 | 3 |
August 4 | 7 | 5 |
August 5 | 13 | 2 |
August 6 | 9 | 3 |
August 7 | 6 | 3 |
August 8 | 10 | 5 |
August 9 | 5 | 4 |
August 10 | 11 | 4 |
August 11 | 5 | 1 |
August 12 | 5 | 2 |
August 13 | 2 | 1 |
August 14 | 3 | |
August 15 | 4 | |
August 16 | 3 | |
August 17 | 3 | |
Total | 272 | 127 |
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Frequently asked questions
[edit]How do I write an interesting hook?
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How to remove a rejected hook
[edit]- Open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to remove. (It's best to wait several days after a reviewer has rejected the hook, just in case someone contests or the article undergoes a large change.)
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How to remove a hook from the prep areas or queue
[edit]- Edit the prep area or queue where the hook is and remove the hook and the credits associated with it.
- Go to the hook's nomination subpage (there should have been a link to it in the credits section).
- View the edit history for that page
- Go back to the last version before the edit where the hook was promoted, and revert to that version to make the nomination active again.
- Add a new icon on the nomination subpage to cancel the previous tick and leave a comment after it explaining that the hook was removed from the prep area or queue, and why, so that later reviewers are aware of this issue.
- Add a transclusion of the template back to this page so that reviewers can see it. It goes under the date that it was first created/expanded/listed as a GA. You may need to add back the day header for that date if it had been removed from this page.
- If you removed the hook from a queue, it is best to either replace it with another hook from one of the prep areas, or to leave a message at WT:DYK asking someone else to do so.
How to move a nomination subpage to a new name
[edit]- Don't; it should not ever be necessary, and will break some links which will later need to be repaired. Even if you change the title of the article, you don't need to move the nomination page.
Nominations
[edit]Older nominations
[edit]Articles created/expanded on June 17
[edit]Valley Falls train collision
![1853 daguerreotype of the collision](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/85/L._Wright_-_Train_wreck_on_the_Providence_Worcester_Railroad_near_Pawtucket%2C_Rhode_Island_-_Google_Art_Project.jpg/161px-L._Wright_-_Train_wreck_on_the_Providence_Worcester_Railroad_near_Pawtucket%2C_Rhode_Island_-_Google_Art_Project.jpg)
- ... that the Valley Falls train collision in 1853 was one of the earliest train wrecks ever photographed? Source: Reed, Robert (1968). Train Wrecks: A Pictorial History of Accidents on the Main Line. Seattle: Superior Pub. Co. pp. 20–21. Also verified by Heppner, Frank H. (2012). Railroads of Rhode Island: shaping the Ocean State's railways. Charleston, South Carolina: History Press. p. 78
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Joel Ross (vibraphonist)
- Comment: Due to the recent controversy over "first" or "earliest" hooks, I have adopted the wording "one of the earliest".
Trainsandotherthings (talk) 17:00, 23 June 2024 (UTC).
Article was promoted to GA status on time and I did not find any close paraphrasing. QPQ has been done. Since I can't access either source for the hook I'd like to at least see a quote or excerpt that discusses the hook. As for the hook itself, while it meets WP:DYKINT, the footnote supporting it comes at the end of the paragraph where the sentence is rather than the end of the sentence itself. In addition, the hook and the article do not match: the hook says "one of the earliest" but the article outright says "believed to be the first." I understand this is because of the recent issues with "first" hooks, but as it stands, the article cannot run unless that is resolved first. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:25, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- I don't have access to Train Wrecks right now as I'm in the middle of a move. Heppner says "This was the first train wreck ever to be photographed and printed in a newspaper". I have added an inline cite at the end of the sentence. This is kind of a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation - if we try and run the hook as stated in the sources and article, it will almost certainly be challenged. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 13:57, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- Given the circumstances of the nomination I'm pinging some of the commentors in the recent "first" hooks discussion such as @RoySmith, SL93, and Schwede66: for advice. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:19, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- My usual litmus test for "first" hooks is whether there's a finite set of things, making it possible to definitively order them and see which was first. For example, we can be pretty sure George Washington was indeed the first president of the United States; even the most skeptical of us should be willing to accept that there wasn't one before him that we just somehow haven't found yet in a google search. In this case, photography had only existed for about 20 years when this crash happened. The window of when an earlier photo might have been taken is thus limited, so at least this seems likely to be true. On general principles, however, I think we should say "believed to be" or something like that. FWIW, I found mention of this in the George Eastman House 2008 Annual Report which says "[Train wreck on the Providence Worcester Railroad near to Pawtucket], August 12, 1853. Attributed to L. Wright. Daguerreotype. so there may be some uncertainty about the photographer's identity. RoySmith (talk) 15:26, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- I don't follow the last point. Both the link and the source I use in the article attribute the photograph to L. Wright. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 01:25, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- I generally interpret the phrase "attributed to" to indicate a degree of uncertainty. Thus Read my lips: no new taxes says,
"Read my lips: no new taxes" is a phrase spoken by American presidential candidate George H. W. Bush
. There's no doubt in anybody's mind that he said it. Millions of people watched him say it live on TV and we've got it on videotape to go back and verify. But Gospel of Matthew saysThe gospel is traditionally attributed to the Apostle Matthew
because we're not 100% sure. I think the same thing is going on here; the Eastman folks believe Wright took the image, but they apparently have enough uncertainty about it that they felt the needs to hedge in their statement. RoySmith (talk) 19:44, 26 June 2024 (UTC)- I understand now. So what we know without a doubt is this collision happened and it was photographed. Photography was very much an emerging technology at this point so I think this is almost certainly one of the first train collisions ever photographed, if not the first. Railroads as we know them only really emerged around 1830 with the Liverpool and Manchester Railway and the Daguerreotype was invented in 1839. It's difficult to definitively prove this was the first photo, but it was almost certainly one of the earliest. The question is how do we word this in the article and in the hook. An ALT1 about the emergence of a very early form of a coordinated time/time zone in the aftermath of this wreck is also possible, as that is somewhat easier to verify. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 14:04, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Trainsandotherthings: As this is your nomination, you will know the contents of this article better than a reviewer. I suggest that you propose an ALT1 along with what you suggest above, or several ALTs, so the reviewer can determine the most interesting ones. Z1720 (talk) 01:47, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- I understand now. So what we know without a doubt is this collision happened and it was photographed. Photography was very much an emerging technology at this point so I think this is almost certainly one of the first train collisions ever photographed, if not the first. Railroads as we know them only really emerged around 1830 with the Liverpool and Manchester Railway and the Daguerreotype was invented in 1839. It's difficult to definitively prove this was the first photo, but it was almost certainly one of the earliest. The question is how do we word this in the article and in the hook. An ALT1 about the emergence of a very early form of a coordinated time/time zone in the aftermath of this wreck is also possible, as that is somewhat easier to verify. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 14:04, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- I generally interpret the phrase "attributed to" to indicate a degree of uncertainty. Thus Read my lips: no new taxes says,
- I don't follow the last point. Both the link and the source I use in the article attribute the photograph to L. Wright. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 01:25, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- My usual litmus test for "first" hooks is whether there's a finite set of things, making it possible to definitively order them and see which was first. For example, we can be pretty sure George Washington was indeed the first president of the United States; even the most skeptical of us should be willing to accept that there wasn't one before him that we just somehow haven't found yet in a google search. In this case, photography had only existed for about 20 years when this crash happened. The window of when an earlier photo might have been taken is thus limited, so at least this seems likely to be true. On general principles, however, I think we should say "believed to be" or something like that. FWIW, I found mention of this in the George Eastman House 2008 Annual Report which says "[Train wreck on the Providence Worcester Railroad near to Pawtucket], August 12, 1853. Attributed to L. Wright. Daguerreotype. so there may be some uncertainty about the photographer's identity. RoySmith (talk) 15:26, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- Given the circumstances of the nomination I'm pinging some of the commentors in the recent "first" hooks discussion such as @RoySmith, SL93, and Schwede66: for advice. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:19, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
ALT1: ...that the Valley Falls train collision in 1853 led to the creation of the first time zone in the United States? Source: America's First Time Zone, the Harvard Gazette "That first voluntary time agreement among the railroads became mandatory a few years later, after an 1853 wreck occurred outside Pawtucket, R.I., on a blind curve known as the Boston Switch...After that, railroad time was mandated along the region’s tracks...The result of all this, said Galison and Schechner, was America’s first time zone" Trainsandotherthings (talk) 01:33, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Given the brouhaha about "first" hooks, we will need a much stronger source for the "first time zone" option, or perhaps a revised version that isn't as strong about it being a "first". Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:05, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- It's still interesting if we drop "first". Bremps... 03:47, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
- The issue is really how to present the hook. We've had issues over "first" hooks for a long while, so if it really is the first we have to be sure that it's right. Otherwise, finding a compromise wording is tricky. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:13, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Trainsandotherthings: Please respond to the above. Z1720 (talk) 04:06, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- I don't know what to say. It feels like no matter what I try it always gets shot down. Am I supposed to make the article worse to get a hook through DYK? Trainsandotherthings (talk) 20:54, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Most certainly not, Trainsandotherthings. Some articles just don't fit DYK, whether they're on CTOPs or, like this, contain details which have too high a risk of getting pulled up on at WP:ERRORS, or they're on BLPs about whom all coverage is negative, or... you get the picture. If this nom has to be rejected—well, it has a lot of company, so please don't feel singled out. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 11:12, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- This is not a BLP. This is not a contentious topic. This is simply arcane DYK rules at work, and a perfect example of why I've largely stopped participating in DYK. It's fine, though, bad actors like Coldwell can get through DYK 500 times in a row. I am well aware that some article are not good fits for DYK because I have had the self-awareness to not nominate a good number of articles that were in theory DYK eligible based on newness and length. However, this nomination has been me trying to come up with ideas and everyone else (besides Bremps) shooting them down. Meanwhile people spend months workshopping the most boring articles laying out 20 alts just to get them past the finish line. Tell me, is this article really unfit for DYK, or are there simply too many arbitrary rules, written and unwritten, that act like invisible tripwires? I could write a hook about the collision being caused by the conductor's watch being off by two minutes right? Or is that violating some other unwritten rule? Trainsandotherthings (talk) 20:37, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that the Valley Falls train collision in 1853 led to the creation of a time zone?--Launchballer 06:38, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- Probably the safest option so far. It still says a time zone was created without directly claiming it to be the first time zone in the US. The nuance is lost of course, but given the brouhaha over "first" hooks it's probably for the best. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:34, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that the Valley Falls train collision in 1853 led to the creation of a time zone?--Launchballer 06:38, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- This is not a BLP. This is not a contentious topic. This is simply arcane DYK rules at work, and a perfect example of why I've largely stopped participating in DYK. It's fine, though, bad actors like Coldwell can get through DYK 500 times in a row. I am well aware that some article are not good fits for DYK because I have had the self-awareness to not nominate a good number of articles that were in theory DYK eligible based on newness and length. However, this nomination has been me trying to come up with ideas and everyone else (besides Bremps) shooting them down. Meanwhile people spend months workshopping the most boring articles laying out 20 alts just to get them past the finish line. Tell me, is this article really unfit for DYK, or are there simply too many arbitrary rules, written and unwritten, that act like invisible tripwires? I could write a hook about the collision being caused by the conductor's watch being off by two minutes right? Or is that violating some other unwritten rule? Trainsandotherthings (talk) 20:37, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- Most certainly not, Trainsandotherthings. Some articles just don't fit DYK, whether they're on CTOPs or, like this, contain details which have too high a risk of getting pulled up on at WP:ERRORS, or they're on BLPs about whom all coverage is negative, or... you get the picture. If this nom has to be rejected—well, it has a lot of company, so please don't feel singled out. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 11:12, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- I don't know what to say. It feels like no matter what I try it always gets shot down. Am I supposed to make the article worse to get a hook through DYK? Trainsandotherthings (talk) 20:54, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Trainsandotherthings: Please respond to the above. Z1720 (talk) 04:06, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- The issue is really how to present the hook. We've had issues over "first" hooks for a long while, so if it really is the first we have to be sure that it's right. Otherwise, finding a compromise wording is tricky. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:13, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- It's still interesting if we drop "first". Bremps... 03:47, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 21
[edit]Chand Sifarish
... that "Chand Sifarish" peaked at #1 on the popularity charts?
- Reviewed:
KunalAggarwal95 (talk) 17:33, 28 June 2024 (UTC).
The article was recently recreated from a redirect so if tools say this is an old article then that is inaccurate. Thus the article is technically eligible. There are however multiple major issues with the nomination right now. The first is that the article is in need of a copyedit, and second, the hook is too vague and broad to meet WP:DYKINT. It lacks context (it doesn't make it unambiguously clear that the subject is a song), and the "#1 on the popularity charts" claim also lacks context. I should also note that the article isn't more specific about which charts are being referred to here either, so that is also an issue with the article. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:18, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- I don't have any information about those popularity charts. KunalAggarwal95 (talk) 10:42, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- If that's the case then that hook can't run as it won't pass scrutiny on either WT:DYK or WP:ERRORS. A new hook will need to be proposed here, but if one can't, then the nom will be marked for closure. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:12, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- New hook: ALT1 ... that the song "Chand Sifarish" was produced in the voice of Kishore Kumar and Mohammed Rafi, with the help of Artificial intelligence. KunalAggarwal95 (talk) 10:16, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- The context of that hook is a bit unclear. Did you mean the song was covered by Kumar and Rafi with the help of AI? Given this is a music-related hook, maybe Launchballer can come up with a clearer and more grammatically-correct wording. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:44, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- If the hook is telling me what I think it's trying to tell me, then I would suggest words to the effect of ALT1a: ... that an AI-generated cover of Shaan and Kailash Kher's "Chand Sifarish" became popular on social media? Also, what makes The Times of India reliable?--Launchballer 13:01, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- Just noting that the tools are saying this is an old article because it used to be one; the article was deleted at AfD in 2012. I think the AI stuff takes it over the line in terms of notability.--Launchballer 13:14, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- I understand that ToI has a yellow rating at WP:RSP, but the hook's claim seems uncontroversial and not something they likely made up. If there are no other sources that cover that information I don't think it should be an issue to use ToI in this particular case (unless this is one of their paid articles), but to be on the safe side maybe another source should be added to strengthen the claim. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:20, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- Just noting that the tools are saying this is an old article because it used to be one; the article was deleted at AfD in 2012. I think the AI stuff takes it over the line in terms of notability.--Launchballer 13:14, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- If the hook is telling me what I think it's trying to tell me, then I would suggest words to the effect of ALT1a: ... that an AI-generated cover of Shaan and Kailash Kher's "Chand Sifarish" became popular on social media? Also, what makes The Times of India reliable?--Launchballer 13:01, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- The context of that hook is a bit unclear. Did you mean the song was covered by Kumar and Rafi with the help of AI? Given this is a music-related hook, maybe Launchballer can come up with a clearer and more grammatically-correct wording. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:44, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- New hook: ALT1 ... that the song "Chand Sifarish" was produced in the voice of Kishore Kumar and Mohammed Rafi, with the help of Artificial intelligence. KunalAggarwal95 (talk) 10:16, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- If that's the case then that hook can't run as it won't pass scrutiny on either WT:DYK or WP:ERRORS. A new hook will need to be proposed here, but if one can't, then the nom will be marked for closure. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:12, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- I don't have any information about those popularity charts. KunalAggarwal95 (talk) 10:42, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
The hook belongs to Hindustan Times. KunalAggarwal95 (talk) 17:32, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Have your concerns been resolved? If not, what else needs to be done to get this approved? Z1720 (talk) 01:48, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- The sourcing issue still needs to be addressed and Launchballer's objection be lifted. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:05, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- @KunalAggarwal95: Please address the above. Z1720 (talk) 02:08, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Source is reliable. https://www.hindustantimes.com/trending/what-if-kishore-kumar-and-rafi-sang-chand-sifarish-ai-made-video-impresses-people-101705313694145.html KunalAggarwal95 (talk) 07:34, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- I apologise if my original post was not clear. The two Times of India pieces are currently used to back up a claim of plagiarism and the winning of an award, which I regard as needing stronger sourcing. I have no objection with the Hindustan Times being used for the hook.--Launchballer 07:50, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Added another source for winning award. No other source found for plagiarism. KunalAggarwal95 (talk) 17:04, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Then I suggest that you take that bit out and put something else in to take this back above 1500 characters.--Launchballer 17:15, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Check KunalAggarwal95 (talk) 08:07, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- No further objections from me, although for a low-profile individual like that fan, you probably shouldn't be including their name per WP:BLPNAME. I've removed this for you, and made a few other edits while at it. Also, without evidence that the 'popularity charts' are anything other than Hindustan Times' own chart, that had to come out per WP:SINGLEVENDOR. Passing you back to @Narutolovehinata5:.--Launchballer 08:24, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, we definitely can't run with ALT0. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:19, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that when Anshuman Sharma uploaded an AI-generated cover of Shaan and Kailash Kher's "Chand Sifarish" to Instagram, his post scored nearly five million views in two days?--Launchballer 13:30, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- ALT2 seems good. KunalAggarwal95 (talk) 05:38, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
Then another reviewer needs to tick it off.--Launchballer 14:19, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- ALT2 seems good. KunalAggarwal95 (talk) 05:38, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that when Anshuman Sharma uploaded an AI-generated cover of Shaan and Kailash Kher's "Chand Sifarish" to Instagram, his post scored nearly five million views in two days?--Launchballer 13:30, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, we definitely can't run with ALT0. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:19, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- No further objections from me, although for a low-profile individual like that fan, you probably shouldn't be including their name per WP:BLPNAME. I've removed this for you, and made a few other edits while at it. Also, without evidence that the 'popularity charts' are anything other than Hindustan Times' own chart, that had to come out per WP:SINGLEVENDOR. Passing you back to @Narutolovehinata5:.--Launchballer 08:24, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Check KunalAggarwal95 (talk) 08:07, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Then I suggest that you take that bit out and put something else in to take this back above 1500 characters.--Launchballer 17:15, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Added another source for winning award. No other source found for plagiarism. KunalAggarwal95 (talk) 17:04, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- I apologise if my original post was not clear. The two Times of India pieces are currently used to back up a claim of plagiarism and the winning of an award, which I regard as needing stronger sourcing. I have no objection with the Hindustan Times being used for the hook.--Launchballer 07:50, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Source is reliable. https://www.hindustantimes.com/trending/what-if-kishore-kumar-and-rafi-sang-chand-sifarish-ai-made-video-impresses-people-101705313694145.html KunalAggarwal95 (talk) 07:34, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- @KunalAggarwal95: Please address the above. Z1720 (talk) 02:08, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- The sourcing issue still needs to be addressed and Launchballer's objection be lifted. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:05, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
Apologies, I was under the impression that the above included a review. This is long enough, new enough, copyvio free and QPQ exempt. I don't see any reason why this might deserve a maintenance template. This still needs someone else to approve ALT2.--Launchballer 19:02, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 23
[edit]Lahug Airport
- ... that the Cebu IT Park was originally where Lahug Airport was?
- Source: [1]
- ALT1: ... that after former Philippine President Ramon Magsaysay's plane launched from Lahug Airport, he had a plane crash which ultimately ended his life? Source: [2]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Accessibility of transport in London
TheNuggeteer (talk) 05:58, 26 June 2024 (UTC).
- General eligibility:
- New enough:
- Long enough:
- After copyediting, it does not meet the 1,500-character threshold.
Policy compliance:
- Adequate sourcing:
- Needs better sources to back claims.
- Neutral:
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
Hook eligibility:
- Cited:
- Interesting:
- Neither hook is particularly interesting to a broad audience. The papal mass at the airport sounds far more interesting.
QPQ: - Still needed.
Overall: Went ahead and copyedited the article, but it seems to have brought it below the length requirement after removing some filler. SounderBruce 01:41, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- @SounderBruce: I reviewed a DYK nom for QPQ, and I fixed the longevity problem, for another alt, I suggest:
- ALT2 ... that the first papal mass in Cebu was held at Lahug Airport? Source: [3]
Anyway, can you tell me which sources aren't reliable? TheNuggeteer (talk) 02:39, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- "PacificWrecks.com" does not exactly scream "reliable". The CDN piece seems to be an opinion/contributor reflection rather than a proper news article. I imagine a papal mass would have plenty of coverage, no? SounderBruce 02:42, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- @TheNuggeteer: Please respond to the above. Z1720 (talk) 01:50, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- @SounderBruce: PacificWrecks seems pretty popular and reliable, but in case, I found this website, which seems like a copy of a book? And the other statement about the CDN piece, yes, It seems like that, but they would not change the facts, since they are one of the most reliable sources in Cebu City. And the 3rd and last statement, yes, It feels like that, but it was pretty old, so im not sure about the last one.
Thanks,🍗TheNuggeteer🍗
04:28, 15 July 2024 (UTC)- There still isn't sufficient citations; coverage of the papal mass from beyond the one author (Oaminal) would be ideal. SounderBruce 01:44, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- @SounderBruce:Found six citations, SunStar, Augnet, The Vatican, CDN (another), Inquirer, and a Reuters video (which stated that there were a million people, which probably can be included in the hook.)
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗
07:18, 16 July 2024 (UTC)- @SounderBruce: Does the above satisfy your concerns? If not, what else needs to happen to get this approved? Z1720 (talk) 23:18, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- @SounderBruce:Found six citations, SunStar, Augnet, The Vatican, CDN (another), Inquirer, and a Reuters video (which stated that there were a million people, which probably can be included in the hook.)
- There still isn't sufficient citations; coverage of the papal mass from beyond the one author (Oaminal) would be ideal. SounderBruce 01:44, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
New reviewer needed unless SounderBruce returns. Z1720 (talk) 19:54, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- @TheNuggeteer: Those citations need to be added to the article (and could help expand it a bit more). SounderBruce 22:07, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- Done, just needs checking.
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗
12:03, 1 August 2024 (UTC)- @SounderBruce:
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗
09:16, 5 August 2024 (UTC)- @TheNuggeteer: SounderBruce hasn't responded to this in over a week, so I'll take over from here. I took out one sentence per WP:SUMMARY, and was about to move the 1966 closure to the end of the paragraph beginning "On August", but the cited source doesn't mention the date. Could one be added?--Launchballer 12:24, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- @SounderBruce:
- Done, just needs checking.
@Launchballer: Done, Done, and Done, found a Pressreader source. 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗
12:20, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- That's better, although I just noticed a bunch of stuff in the infobox that isn't sourced. For DYK purposes you can just add cites to the infobox but I think the article would be better if it was added to the body.--Launchballer 12:38, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- Which parts?
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗
12:39, 10 August 2024 (UTC)- Airport codes, opening date, timezone, elevation, and the runway stuff. I think you can get away with just linking Bureau of Aeronautics to Civil Aviation Authority of the Philippines.--Launchballer 12:46, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- Which parts?
Articles created/expanded on June 26
[edit]Windy Zhan
... that Windy Zhan (pictured) is a member of the Hong Kong Cantopop girl group After Class who has been learning and practising vocal music since the age of five?
- Source: "詹天文成功考入美國伯克利音樂學院 繼姚焯菲後到海外升學". am730 (in Chinese (Hong Kong)). 4 April 2024. Retrieved 26 June 2024.: "After Class...成員...詹天文(Windy)...,她在5歲時已隨女高音歌唱家王珊及戚芷君學習正統聲樂"
- "與顧嘉煇王力宏做校友 詹天文獲伯克利音樂學院取錄". Mingpao Weekly (in Chinese (Hong Kong)). 5 April 2024. Archived from the original on 21 April 2024. Retrieved 26 June 2024.: "5歲開始隨女高音歌唱家王珊及戚芷君學習聲樂"
- "聲夢小花|詹天文獲伯克利音樂學院取錄 Windy音樂造詣高5歲學聲樂【多圖】". Hong Kong Economic Times (in Chinese (Hong Kong)). 5 April 2024. Archived from the original on 18 April 2024. Retrieved 26 June 2024.: "Windy在5歲起跟隨專業女高音歌唱家王珊、戚芷君學習正統聲樂"
- "《聲夢》詹天文獲伯克利音樂學院取錄成顧嘉煇王力宏師妹 5歲跟名師學聲樂屢獲獎". Headline Daily (in Chinese (Hong Kong)). 5 April 2024. Retrieved 26 June 2024.: "TVB歌唱節目《聲夢傳奇》首季參賽者詹天文(Windy)雖然沒有得到三甲名次,但憑出色歌藝被選中加入女子組合After Class...,5歲已跟專業女高音歌唱家王珊及戚芷君學習正統聲樂"
- Reviewed:
Will629 (talk) 19:13, 26 June 2024 (UTC).
Hello, Will629. The nomination is timely and the article is long enough with no copyvios detected. Several entries in the Discography table, as well as the Awards and nominations table, appear unsourced, though. These would require references. I think it can use some tweaking for catchiness; how about this?--NØ 19:35, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that Windy Zhan (pictured) of the Hong Kong girl group After Class has been learning and practising vocal music since the age of five?
- MaranoFan, thank you very much for your prompt review. I have corrected the issues and your question suggestion is very good, thank you! May I ask what do I need to do for using your ALT1 suggestion, as I am new for DYK in English Wikipedia. Thank you!--Will629 (talk) 19:52, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
I have struck the first hook so ALT1 will be considered by the promotor, no further action required. Thank you for correcting the issues so quickly. Foreign-language reference accepted in good faith, this is good to go. Welcome to the English Wikipedia and best of luck here!--NØ 20:02, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you very much again!--Will629 (talk) 20:59, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Will629 and MaranoFan: is this unusual or interesting enough? Out of interest, I just looked at a number of other famous singers—all had started before the age of seven. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 21:35, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- +1 from me, I'd say. We get a lot of these types of hooks, ironically enough, and they usually don't perform too well. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 22:16, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
@Will629: A new hook is needed. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 18:12, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that Windy Zhan (pictured) of the Hong Kong girl group After Class was highly praised by Taiwanese netizens for her performance in singing the Queen of the Night aria in June 2023?
- @AirshipJungleman29: Is that okay?--Will629 (talk) 19:04, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- The website it is sourced to looks extremely tabloidy. See WP:NOTGOSSIP. The hook needs to be cited to a reliable source, and orientalsunday.hk doesn't look like one. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 19:11, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- @AirshipJungleman29: I have added few more sources, is that okay?--Will629 (talk) 19:23, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- And the corresponding lines are (although in Chinese):
- @AirshipJungleman29: I have added few more sources, is that okay?--Will629 (talk) 19:23, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- The website it is sourced to looks extremely tabloidy. See WP:NOTGOSSIP. The hook needs to be cited to a reliable source, and orientalsunday.hk doesn't look like one. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 19:11, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- +1 from me, I'd say. We get a lot of these types of hooks, ironically enough, and they usually don't perform too well. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 22:16, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Will629 and MaranoFan: is this unusual or interesting enough? Out of interest, I just looked at a number of other famous singers—all had started before the age of seven. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 21:35, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you very much again!--Will629 (talk) 20:59, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- MaranoFan, thank you very much for your prompt review. I have corrected the issues and your question suggestion is very good, thank you! May I ask what do I need to do for using your ALT1 suggestion, as I am new for DYK in English Wikipedia. Thank you!--Will629 (talk) 19:52, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that Windy Zhan (pictured) of the Hong Kong girl group After Class has been learning and practising vocal music since the age of five?
- "詹天文成功考入美國伯克利音樂學院 繼姚焯菲後到海外升學". am730 (in Chinese (Hong Kong)). 4 April 2024. Retrieved 24 July 2024.: "去年,她在學校舉辦的社際音樂比賽演唱了一段莫札特《魔笛》中「夜后」其中一段,影片在台灣hit爆,更被形容為「聲樂界的明日之星」"
- "與顧嘉煇王力宏做校友 詹天文獲伯克利音樂學院取錄". Mingpao Weekly (in Chinese (Hong Kong)). 5 April 2024. Archived from the original on 21 April 2024. Retrieved 24 July 2024.: "去年參加學校舉辦的音樂比賽,演唱了莫札特《魔笛》中「夜后」其中一段,片段在台灣爆紅,被譽為「聲樂界的明日之星」。"
- "聲夢小花|詹天文獲伯克利音樂學院取錄 Windy音樂造詣高5歲學聲樂【多圖】". Hong Kong Economic Times (in Chinese (Hong Kong)). 5 April 2024. Archived from the original on 18 April 2024. Retrieved 24 July 2024.: "就讀國際基督教優質音樂中學的Windy,她在學校社際音樂比賽中演唱莫札特《魔笛》中的「夜后」,盡展實力,影片更在台灣爆紅"--Will629 (talk) 19:55, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- @AirshipJungleman29: Have your concerns been addressed? If not what else needs to be done? Z1720 (talk) 20:00, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- No, not really; the above churnalism all saying variations of "random people liked the performance on Twitter" aren't a good source to build a hook off. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 23:11, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- ALT: ... that Windy Zhan (pictured) of the Hong Kong girl group After Class was enrolled in the Xinghai Conservatory of Music in Guangzhou, China in 2024?
- @AirshipJungleman29: For your last comment, I don't think they are churnalism as they do report the news, and it is not Twitter but Facebook. But anyway, I hope this new hook is okay and again, these are the local news sources that I could find. Actually they already constitute most of the mainstream news sources that are referring to the news itself. If it still doesn't meet the requirements, I would really like to hear your suggestions. Thank you.--Will629 (talk) 22:55, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- Personally I don't think the new hook meets WP:DYKINT as the significance of being enrolled in that particular conservatory isn't clear to the average reader. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:23, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- What about this? The sources are throughout and this is so far the best I can do.
- ALT:... that Windy Zhan (pictured) of the Hong Kong girl group After Class is known for her high-pitched vocals and operatic singing skills? --Will629 (talk) 00:07, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- What about this? The sources are throughout and this is so far the best I can do.
- Personally I don't think the new hook meets WP:DYKINT as the significance of being enrolled in that particular conservatory isn't clear to the average reader. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:23, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- @AirshipJungleman29: For your last comment, I don't think they are churnalism as they do report the news, and it is not Twitter but Facebook. But anyway, I hope this new hook is okay and again, these are the local news sources that I could find. Actually they already constitute most of the mainstream news sources that are referring to the news itself. If it still doesn't meet the requirements, I would really like to hear your suggestions. Thank you.--Will629 (talk) 22:55, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- ALT: ... that Windy Zhan (pictured) of the Hong Kong girl group After Class was enrolled in the Xinghai Conservatory of Music in Guangzhou, China in 2024?
- No, not really; the above churnalism all saying variations of "random people liked the performance on Twitter" aren't a good source to build a hook off. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 23:11, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- @AirshipJungleman29: Have your concerns been addressed? If not what else needs to be done? Z1720 (talk) 20:00, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
@AirshipJungleman29: Do the above ALTs satisfy your concerns? @MaranoFan: As the original reviewer, can you confirm if these are approved? Z1720 (talk) 19:51, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- ALT5: ... that After Class member Windy Zhan won several awards at the Hong Kong Schools Music Festival during her childhood?
- This looks to me like the best that can be done based on the current version of the article. Unfortunately, its DYK potential seems to be limited, but I believe we've run way worse. All the hooks are okay to me, although not the best.--NØ 20:02, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- @MaranoFan:Thank you. I understand that too and I could just hope for the best now. Thank you again.--Will629 (talk) 20:41, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- This looks to me like the best that can be done based on the current version of the article. Unfortunately, its DYK potential seems to be limited, but I believe we've run way worse. All the hooks are okay to me, although not the best.--NØ 20:02, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 28
[edit]Jab Se Tere Naina
- ... that Ranbir Kapoor gave close to 100 takes for the 2007 Hindi-language song "Jab Se Tere Naina"?
- Reviewed:
KunalAggarwal95 (talk) 16:50, 6 July 2024 (UTC).
- As this is currently the oldest nomination that is completely unreviewed, @Launchballer: if you have time, could you please take a look at this? Thanks. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:21, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
Sure, I was planning on reviewing this anyway. (I keep finding more and more stuff to say about Eliza Legzdina.) This is long enough and new enough. I don't see why you'd say 'close to 100 takes' when the quote in the source says "I did 45 or 50 takes one day and [then t]he next morning [...] I had to do another 70 takes"; come again with "more than 100". I would have raised my hackles at Missmalini.com, but it's been discussed at RSN and found to be fine so I'll take it. QPQ unnecessary. There's a fair amount of close paraphrasing throughout the article and this should be remedied before this can be ticked off.--Launchballer 07:22, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- My English is bad. If an editor could correct the problem of close paraphrasing, it would be great. KunalAggarwal95 (talk) 16:06, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
ABC Cinema, Brighton
- ... that the world premiere of Brighton Rock was held at Brighton's ABC Cinema (pictured)?
- Source: Allen Eyles (2003), Brighton and Hove Cinemas, p.71. "At midnight on Thursday 8 January 1948, the world premiere of Brighton Rock took place at the Savoy (no other cinema was in the running, as it was made by ABC's associated production company)." (First sentence from a full paragraph about the premiere. The Savoy was the name of the cinema at the time, as noted in the article.)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Chicken of Tomorrow Contest
- Comment: Another Brighton article contributed as part of the recent restarting of Wikipedia:WikiProject Brighton.
Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 19:20, 28 June 2024 (UTC).
- Reveiewing... new enough, long enough, QPQ provided. Hook in article, image free. Will complete soon. Whispyhistory (talk) 06:31, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
...No copyvio issues, neutral. Hook is followed by a citation to a reference i cannot see, though a copy of the text is provided above. Reads well and hook and article are interesting. Thank you for your work. Whispyhistory (talk) 10:16, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
... how interesting (WP:DYKINT) are we finding this hook? The world premiere of a film about events in a town took place in that town? Is that abnormal? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 11:45, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not aware of any other examples of this happening, and I would think it is quite abnormal for a world premiere to take place in a smallish provincial town; but I'm happy to have alternative hooks suggested. Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 11:55, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- I agree with Airship: the premiere of a movie happening in the place where the movie takes place is not too interesting. @Hassocks5489: Can you propose some alternate hooks? If you can't think of other hooks, would it be better if this was withdrawn? Z1720 (talk) 00:46, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- I'll suggest the following – see what you think: (source is ref [24], which covers the whole sentence in which it appears) Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 18:25, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- I agree with Airship: the premiere of a movie happening in the place where the movie takes place is not too interesting. @Hassocks5489: Can you propose some alternate hooks? If you can't think of other hooks, would it be better if this was withdrawn? Z1720 (talk) 00:46, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not aware of any other examples of this happening, and I would think it is quite abnormal for a world premiere to take place in a smallish provincial town; but I'm happy to have alternative hooks suggested. Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 11:55, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- ... that the ABC Cinema (pictured) in Brighton was nicknamed "the white whale"?
Bit of a sad one, but here:
- ... that a casino, a bar, and at one point a restaurant all live in what was once one of Brighton's most important cinemas (pictured)? theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 08:27, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
That would also work for me, although sadly such unsympathetic conversions of ex-cinemas aren't too uncommon around these parts. Pinging: (AirshipJungleman29—Z1720—Theleekycauldron) Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 14:46, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Whispyhistory: As the original reviewer, can you confirm that the two proposed hooks above are approved? Z1720 (talk) 19:49, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on July 4
[edit]Iktara (song)
- ... that Kavita Seth became so popular with the 2009 Hindi-language song "Iktara" that audiences wanted her to sing the song whenever she went for live concerts?
KunalAggarwal95 (talk) 08:08, 10 July 2024 (UTC).
Abdul Ali Deobandi
- ... that Abdul Ali Deobandi stipulated that women were prohibited from learning reading and writing, even at home?
- Reviewed:
Faldi00 (talk) 08:12, 6 July 2024 (UTC).
Article is new, long enough and neutral. It cites sources inline. "Earwig's Copyvio Detector" reports very few text similiarity commenting "violation unlikely". The hokk is well-formatted and interesting. Its length is within limit. Its fact is accurate, however, a reference is needed directly at the end of the sentence in the article. No QPQ is required for the nominator. I will approve after the reference issue is addressed. CeeGee 15:19, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
I added the missing citing by myself because there wa no reaction in couple of days, and the issue was minor. I guess the issue was not understood. Anyway, it is now fine. Good to go. CeeGee 03:22, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Faldi00, is [4] a reliable source? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:25, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- AirshipJungleman29 nuun.asia is pro-Taliban media.[1] Nevertheless, several journals, research papers, and reports [2][3][4][5][6][7][8] cited nuun.asia's article as their source. Hence, I believe that nuun.asia is still considered a reliable source.
If it is a pro-Taliban source, it is not WP:INDEPENDENT when covering a pro-Taliban advisor of Mullah Omar. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 23:32, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- Being pro-Taliban does not mean it is not independent. Traumnovelle (talk) 07:08, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- AirshipJungleman29 nuun.asia is pro-Taliban media.[1] Nevertheless, several journals, research papers, and reports [2][3][4][5][6][7][8] cited nuun.asia's article as their source. Hence, I believe that nuun.asia is still considered a reliable source.
- Faldi00, is [4] a reliable source? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:25, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Aafi: who has done a lot of work on Deobandi scholars. Do you see any issue with the sourcing? VR (Please ping on reply) 21:08, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- VR, I don't think there is any major flaw with the sources used. The fact is such that a pro-Taliban source for its verification would technically seem a better fit than a western one. What is said in a fact also makes an impact on what kind of a source we ahould use to support it. As such I don't see any issues. Regards, Aafi (talk) 02:48, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- and I'm sorry for missing the context as I see now that nuun.asia is the most cited-sources in the article for biographical information. My searches indicate that this website does have an editorial insight and as such I won't mind given subject's explicit notability, already. Best Regards, Aafi (talk) 02:55, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Traumnovelle: I'm not sure if it would apply in this case, but IIRC there's a guideline that says even unreliable or non-independent sources can be used as sources when backing up a subject's claims, if the source is related to them. For example, although we've deprecated the Daily Mail for most articles, one exception is allowing the Daily Mail as a source regarding the Daily Mail itself. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:29, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
References
- ^ "Briefing: Pro-Taliban media outlet challenges IS narratives". BBC Insight. Retrieved 4 August 2024.
- ^ From Words to Deeds: A Study of Armed Non-State Actors' Practice and Interpretation of International Humanitarian and Human Rights Norms The Taliban-Afghanistan (PDF) (Report). UK Research and Innovation. Retrieved 4 August 2024 – via Geneva Academy.
- ^ Lombardi, Clark B.; March, Andrew F. "Afghan Taliban Views on Legitimate Islamic Governance CERTAINTIES, AMBIGUITIES, AND AREAS FOR COMPROMISE" (PDF). usip.org. United States Institute of Peace. Retrieved 4 August 2024.
- ^ Siddique, Abubakar. "The Taliban's Spring Offensive: Afghanistan Faces a Crucial Year". jamestown.org. James Town. Retrieved 4 August 2024.
- ^ Khalil, Ahmad Bilal (2022). "Local Conflicts and Foreign Fighters: The 'Afghan Arabs' Phenomena During Afghan Conflict (1978–2021)". India Quarterly: A Journal of International Affairs. 78 (4). doi:10.1177/09749284221127780.
- ^ Ahmadzai, Atal (2022). "IS-Khorasan: Organizational Structure, Ideological Convergence with the Taliban, and Future Prospects". Perspectives on Terrorism. 16 (5): 2. JSTOR 27168613.
- ^ Omarkhail, Ihsanullah (2023). "The trajectory of Islamic State Khorasan Province and Afghan Taliban rivalry". Small Wars & Insurgencies. doi:10.1080/09592318.2023.2288450.
- ^ Hemat, Toryalai; Sekandary, Muhammad Ibrahim; Habib, Fazlullah; Sadiq, Abdul Saboor (2022). "Air pollution in Jalalabad city: its causes, effects, and solutions". Exima Journal. 5: 315-349.
- @AirshipJungleman29: Additional ping. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:30, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on July 5
[edit]Quintus Quincy Quigley
- ... that Quintus Quincy Quigley (pictured) preferred Angles to a ring?
- Source: The Life and Times of Quintus Quincy Quigley -- "The Quigley’s used the ring money to purchase the land. The house they built was called “The Angles.”
- Reviewed: Alien Blue
- Comment: Getting the nomination started while it's timely. The proposed hook is short as the subject's name is quite intriguing to start with and so it's best not to bury it in detail.
Andrew🐉(talk) 23:07, 12 July 2024 (UTC).
I am taking this on because I love the quirkiness of the hook. The article is long enough and was nominated in time to count as new. I do have some issue with sourcing and possibly neutrality, however. One of the sources is a self-published genealogy website, while another mentions slave ownership not found in the article. Also, it is claimed in this book, apparently by the man who had Quigley's journal published, that Quigley was a state senator. If true, this would be a major omission. Surtsicna (talk) 21:12, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Surtsicna: Thanks for the review. Regarding your points:
- The Kentucky Kindred site seems reasonably reliable as it provides copious evidence such as newspaper cuttings. Perhaps they can be cited directly. I'll take another look.
- The slave ownership detail seems to arise from the census returns. It didn't seem interesting but I can add more detail of his household if you like.
- I saw that state senator point and used it initially but it didn't check out. His obituary in the Paducah Evening Sun says that "He was the first city attorney ... This was the only public office he ever held." I didn't find any other reference to him as a state senator and suppose he would have left more trace if he was one.
- I'll make another pass through the article and then ping for a check. More anon.
- Andrew🐉(talk) 18:26, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- You may be right about the census returns data not being necessarily relevant. That would then apply to everything from it, however. I would suggest citing the newspapers instead of the genealogy site. I too could not find anything about his supposed senatorship but the fact that the publisher of his journal mentioned it threw me off. Surtsicna (talk) 23:23, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
Grace Panvini
- ... that petite soprano Grace Panvini stood 4 foot 11 3/4 inches tall; a height which one reviewer described as an asset for appearing youthful on stage?
- Source: For her height of 4 foot 11 3/4 inches: "INSTRUCTORS TEACH STUDENTS TO LIFT THEIR VOICES". South Florida Sun Sentinel. December 3, 1996.
4meter4 (talk) 21:39, 6 July 2024 (UTC).
- Not a review, but if we are to go with this angle, I would suggest including a metric conversion given how most of the world do not use customary units. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:17, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
David B. Gillespie
- ... that David Gillespie was the first person granted a document in the nature of a diploma from the University of North Carolina?
- Source: Battle, Kemp Plummer (1907). History of the University of North Carolina: from its Beginning to the Death of President Swain, 1789–1868 (PDF). Vol. I. Raleigh, North Carolina: Edwards & Broughton Printing Company. p. 77 – via the Wikimedia Foundation.
- ALT1: ... that the first person granted a document in the nature of a diploma from the University of North Carolina was David Gillespie? Source: Battle, Kemp Plummer (1907). History of the University of North Carolina: from its Beginning to the Death of President Swain, 1789–1868 (PDF). Vol. I. Raleigh, North Carolina: Edwards & Broughton Printing Company. p. 77 – via the Wikimedia Foundation.
- ALT2: ... that David Gillespie was the chief surveyor under Andrew Ellicott on the commission to determine the thirty-first parallel? Source: Holmes, Jack D. L. (April 1966). "The Southern Boundary Commission, the Chattahoochee River, and the Florida Seminoles, 1799". The Florida Historical Quarterly. 44 (4): 312–337. JSTOR 30147229.
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Aneirinn (talk) 08:43, 5 July 2024 (UTC).
: Article is new enough, and long enough, and predominantly soured with public domain content so no apparent copyright issues. However, I find none of the hooks interesting to a wide audience (an increasingly common issue with DYK). And despite the article title, no reliable sources seem to use the middle initial "B.": where does this come from? And spot checking sources, Battle 1890 does not seem to have a page 170, nor mention David Gillespie anywhere. --Animalparty! (talk) 16:32, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- I originally used the wrong book as the source. The source I was using had combined the two books in one pdf and I had missed that. Also, concerning his middle name, I suppose you are saying that "Death at Red Springs". The Weekly Star. Vol. XXIX. Wilmington, North Carolina: North Carolina Newspapers, Digital North Carolina. June 10, 1898. p. 1. is not a reliable source for this? If so, could you please clarify if that is correct? Aneirinn (talk) 18:55, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- If that newspaper obit (including its earlier printing on June 5, 1898) is the only source using "B", and no scholar has used it since, then it's most likely a one-off error (typos, misspellings, and incorrect info is common in short obits from the time): note there was a Dr. David B(ryson) Gillespie of Bladen County who died in 1905 mentioned in NC newspapers, and may have caused conflation. Find a Grave uses the middle B, but it's an unreliable user-generated source and the tombstone image does not corroborate it. Since David Gillespie (politician) already exists, David Gillespie (surveyor) or David Gillespie (American politician) may be more appropriate titles in line with predominant form of name. --Animalparty! (talk) 19:40, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Dr. David B. Gillespie (February 24, 1815–January 2, 1905), who attended the Medical College of South Carolina, [Source:Catalogue of the Students Attending Lectures in the Medical College of the State of South Carolina, Session 1837–'38. Charleston: James S. Burges, 85 East-Bay. 1838. p. 6 – via Medical University of South Carolina, Waring Historical Library.] was a son of Major David B. Gillespie. [Source:"Descendants of David Gillespie" (PDF). NCGenWeb.] I think it is likely that the writer of the twice-published obituary wrote 'Major' David B. Gillespie for a reason, and that Dr. David B Gillespie is named after his father, which would have them both with middle names that start with the letter 'B'. This point of contention is not really an issue; however, I find it hard to believe that people would find the initial proposal or ALT1 dull or uninteresting. It is significant and interesting that, according to Kemp P. Battle, David B. Gillespie was the first person granted a document in the form of a diploma from the University of North Carolina, the oldest public university to confer degrees in the United States. This would also make David B. Gillespie the first person in the United States to receive a document in the form of a diploma from a public university. If more alternative hooks are necessary, I'm willing to provide additional options. Aneirinn (talk) 02:05, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- If that newspaper obit (including its earlier printing on June 5, 1898) is the only source using "B", and no scholar has used it since, then it's most likely a one-off error (typos, misspellings, and incorrect info is common in short obits from the time): note there was a Dr. David B(ryson) Gillespie of Bladen County who died in 1905 mentioned in NC newspapers, and may have caused conflation. Find a Grave uses the middle B, but it's an unreliable user-generated source and the tombstone image does not corroborate it. Since David Gillespie (politician) already exists, David Gillespie (surveyor) or David Gillespie (American politician) may be more appropriate titles in line with predominant form of name. --Animalparty! (talk) 19:40, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
ALT3: ... that the first person granted a document in the form of a diploma from the University of North Carolina, the oldest public university to confer degrees in the United States, was David Gillespie?
Sources: Battle, Kemp Plummer (1907). History of the University of North Carolina: from its Beginning to the Death of President Swain, 1789–1868 (PDF). Vol. I. Raleigh, North Carolina: Edwards & Broughton Printing Company. p. 77 – via the Wikimedia Foundation.
Kapur, Geeta N. (2021). To Drink from the Well: The Struggle for Racial Equality at the Nation's Oldest Public University. Durham, North Carolina: Blair/Carolina Wren Press. ISBN 9781949467529 – via Stanford University Libraries.
ALT4: ... that David Gillespie was the first person granted a document in the form of a diploma from the University of North Carolina, the oldest public university to confer degrees in the United States?
Sources: Battle, Kemp Plummer (1907). History of the University of North Carolina: from its Beginning to the Death of President Swain, 1789–1868 (PDF). Vol. I. Raleigh, North Carolina: Edwards & Broughton Printing Company. p. 77 – via the Wikimedia Foundation.
Kapur, Geeta N. (2021). To Drink from the Well: The Struggle for Racial Equality at the Nation's Oldest Public University. Durham, North Carolina: Blair/Carolina Wren Press. ISBN 9781949467529 – via Stanford University Libraries.
- @Aneirinn: What does this need an additional reviewer for that @Animalparty: can't do themself?--Launchballer 18:08, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- Greetings Launchballer, thank you for your response to this and my apologies for abandoning my nomination for Red Brown (politician). I had not realized that only prose characters are counted for the 5x expansion requirement. To answer your question, it seems as if the primordial reviewer has abandoned this nomination. I should also note that an additional source for the initial of the subject's middle name has been added to the article. Aneirinn (talk) 23:39, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Whatever source you were using for his middle name, you weren't citing it, so I've taken it out. I am happy to take over this review, except I don't find any of the hooks interesting either (ALTs 3 and 4 are bloated versions of ALTs 0 and 1 and ALT2 is just confusing).--Launchballer 06:00, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- You are currently citing his middle name to Weeks (1887). I don't see where his initial appears in that source.--Launchballer 06:54, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- Citations for this in the lead are unnecessary per MOS:LEAD. Two sources cited in the body of the article mention the initial of his middle name. One even has it written in its title. Saying it "fails verification" is a bit outside of the box here, so I have returned it. I changed one word on ALT2, hopefully it is an improvement at the very least. Aneirinn (talk) 07:10, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- His initial isn't in the body anywhere.--Launchballer 07:15, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- Citations for this in the lead are unnecessary per MOS:LEAD. Two sources cited in the body of the article mention the initial of his middle name. One even has it written in its title. Saying it "fails verification" is a bit outside of the box here, so I have returned it. I changed one word on ALT2, hopefully it is an improvement at the very least. Aneirinn (talk) 07:10, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- You are currently citing his middle name to Weeks (1887). I don't see where his initial appears in that source.--Launchballer 06:54, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- Whatever source you were using for his middle name, you weren't citing it, so I've taken it out. I am happy to take over this review, except I don't find any of the hooks interesting either (ALTs 3 and 4 are bloated versions of ALTs 0 and 1 and ALT2 is just confusing).--Launchballer 06:00, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- Greetings Launchballer, thank you for your response to this and my apologies for abandoning my nomination for Red Brown (politician). I had not realized that only prose characters are counted for the 5x expansion requirement. To answer your question, it seems as if the primordial reviewer has abandoned this nomination. I should also note that an additional source for the initial of the subject's middle name has been added to the article. Aneirinn (talk) 23:39, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Aneirinn: What does this need an additional reviewer for that @Animalparty: can't do themself?--Launchballer 18:08, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
Why must it be? Aneirinn (talk) 07:39, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- WP:V. The lead is only allowed to be unreferenced if all its content is backed up in the body. As written, it would deserve {{not verified in body}}, which would disqualify it here.--Launchballer 07:50, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- I am entirely at odds with the previous sentence. MOS:NAME says "The most complete name should appear at the beginning of the article to provide maximum information. Inclusion of middle names or initials... can be a useful form of disambiguation if there is more than one person known by that name." Which is the case here. MOS:LEAD supports the status quo. Would you please quote how WP:V supports that? It also mentions, "A source 'directly supports' a given piece of material if the information is present explicitly in the source, so that using this source to support the material is not a violation of WP:NOR. The location of any citation—including whether one is present in the article at all—is unrelated to whether a source directly supports the material." Aneirinn (talk) 23:45, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
Highest averages method
- ... that in 1840, Congress attempted to legislate 40.5 rounds up to 42?
- ALT0a: ... that in 1840, Congress passed a bill with the effect of rounding 40.5 up to 42?
- ALT1: ... that the 1876 United States presidential election was decided by Congress's failure to use the correct rounding procedure? Source: https://archive.org/details/fairrepresentati00bali
- ALT1a: ... that the 1876 presidential election was decided by rounding errors? Source: https://archive.org/details/fairrepresentati00bali
- ALT1b: "... that the result of the 1876 presidential election was decided in part by the algorithm used to handle rounding?
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Overall: no concerns; it's a new GA. prefer ALT1 as clearer and hook-ier to a general audience. good work! ... sawyer * he/they * talk 01:24, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Closed Limelike Curves, Sawyer777, AirshipJungleman29, Black Kite, and David Eppstein:
per the discussion at DYK's noticeboard and the fact that this is up in a day or two, I've pulled this for now. Discussion should continue here :) theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 08:35, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Closed Limelike Curves: I have added your amended Alt1 as Alt1a as the original Alt1 has already been discussed. TSventon (talk) 15:21, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- Sounds good, thanks! Closed Limelike Curves (talk) 18:14, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- I think all the hooks are misleading, even ALT0. There are many systems of rounding in apportionment. All must produce rounding errors, in the sense that rounded numbers rather than exact numbers are a necessary outcome of the process. Therefore, rounding errors are not a cause of anything. Different apportionment procedures have different priorities and it is an inappropriate editorialization to call one of them correct and others incorrect. Congress did not legislate the result of rounding a particular number; they legislated a rounding procedure that applies to a system of numbers (rather than a single number at a time) that happens to have this result, because it prioritized something else and did not prioritize getting within one of the unrounded value. As a simple example (different from what actually happened) this could easily happen in a system that prioritized relative error rather than absolute error. The nominator appears to have an agenda for promoting certain electoral methods and for putting down certain other ones, rather than treating them all equally and neutrally; we should not further this agenda. —David Eppstein (talk) 18:04, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hi David, do you think ALT0A is acceptable? I agree different rounding procedures are inevitable, and all of them will have various quirks and paradoxes. I'm just highlighting this as an interesting example of such a paradox. (Though I'd note that rounding 40.5 up to 42 is a difference of 1.5, making this an unusually severe violation of the quota rule, which is why it's notable/surprising.)
- I'm not sure what you mean by "Therefore, rounding errors are not a cause of anything." If the results of an election would have been different with a different rounding algorithm, and also would have been correct if no rounding algorithm was used, I think it's fair to say the election results were caused by round-off errors. Closed Limelike Curves (talk) 18:10, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- You keep saying "correct". Stop. That is the problem. An imputation that some procedures are correct and others are not is what is causing this issue. If what you really mean is that, for one particular election, one rounding method caused the results to agree with direct democracy and a different rounding method caused a different result, then say so, but for any rounding method one can find scenarios where it will differ from direct democracy and others will not. This is not an argument for one being correct and another not.
- As for ALT0a: No. It did not have that effect. It had the effect that rounding a system of numbers caused one of the numbers to be rounded from 40.5 to 42, but that is not interesting, cause for alarm, or problematic. To spell out a simple example: suppose we are trying to round numbers to achieve minimum relative error, that the total number of seats is 48, and that the numbers we are trying to round are (1.25,1.25,1.25,1.25,1.25,1.25,40.5). Then the obvious way to round it is (1,1,1,1,1,1,42). Anything else would assign one of the small numbers a number of seats far out of proportion. Your hook describes political grandstanding from the time but by cherry-picking a detail from the rounding is misleading about the actual effect of the bill.
- You might just as well say that the current US electoral college rounds 0.9 to 3 (the proportional fraction of electoral college seats that should be held by Wyoming vs the seats it gets). Is that cause for alarm? Is that cause for saying that the highest averages method used in part to allocate these seats is incorrect? —David Eppstein (talk) 18:49, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Dr. Eppstein: If the problem is the word "correct", I've removed the it from ALT1a. I agree it was sloppy phrasing on my part in the DYK, which I only included because I did not expect that hook to be used, and definitely not that it would be used without first being workshopped a bit. (This is my first DYK, so I'm a bit unfamiliar with the procedure.) However, I don't see the relevance of any of this to the newest version of the hook, given I've removed the word "correct" from it. Otherwise, when I say "correct", I'm only defining this to mean the results with the idealized procedure, using fractional apportionments, which does not introduce any rounding errors.
- Direct democracy is wholly unrelated to this topic, and I don't understand why you keep bringing it up. If you mean a direct popular vote, then no, I'm not talking about the popular vote. My point is that A) who won the election depended on the specific rounding rule for the House (which is interesting); and B) all the rounding rules well-regarded by experts for this purpose (Webster, Huntington-Hill, some for Hamilton) produce the same winner, and this winner disagrees with the actual results of the election. Closed Limelike Curves (talk) 15:49, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- I keep bringing it up because it is the only way to make sense of your comparison between rounded and unrounded outcomes. —David Eppstein (talk) 18:12, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- Each state has a certain number of votes. Those votes go to the candidate who wins the most votes in that state (in this election, all states used a winner-take-all rule for choosing electors). In a House of size , that number of votes is equal to , where the brackets denote rounding by whatever apportionment method. I am saying that if you dropped the brackets, i.e. if every state's electoral college apportionment was equal to two senators plus its exact entitlement in the house, the result would be different. In addition, if the entitlement had been done using any common rounding procedure (Webster, Huntington-Hill, Hamilton), the election results would have been different. Closed Limelike Curves (talk) 22:03, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- And I am saying that dropping the rounding and determining the result of an election by the exact unrounded vote tally is exactly the definition of direct democracy. Whether you divide all vote counts by the same quota (without rounding) or whether you leave them as integer numbers of voters, the result is identical. What about this is difficult to understand? —David Eppstein (talk) 22:15, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- Each state has a certain number of votes. Those votes go to the candidate who wins the most votes in that state (in this election, all states used a winner-take-all rule for choosing electors). In a House of size , that number of votes is equal to , where the brackets denote rounding by whatever apportionment method. I am saying that if you dropped the brackets, i.e. if every state's electoral college apportionment was equal to two senators plus its exact entitlement in the house, the result would be different. In addition, if the entitlement had been done using any common rounding procedure (Webster, Huntington-Hill, Hamilton), the election results would have been different. Closed Limelike Curves (talk) 22:03, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- I keep bringing it up because it is the only way to make sense of your comparison between rounded and unrounded outcomes. —David Eppstein (talk) 18:12, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not sure what you mean by "Therefore, rounding errors are not a cause of anything." If the results of an election would have been different with a different rounding algorithm, and also would have been correct if no rounding algorithm was used, I think it's fair to say the election results were caused by round-off errors. Closed Limelike Curves (talk) 18:10, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- @David Eppstein: What changes would you propose to the current ALT1a? Closed Limelike Curves (talk) 22:07, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- I would not use ALT1a at all, because it is misleading. All (unfixed) elections are decided by the choices of the voters and the voting system used for the election. All representative systems round, and all rounding systems produce rounding errors. ALT1a suggests to the reader, incorrectly, that the result of the 1876 election was somehow the wrong result, and that if only people had known how to perform arithmetic correctly then the outcome would have been different. It was the correct result, for the voting system chosen for that election, and the arithmetic was performed correctly. Get off this hobbyhorse of correctness and error. Leave 1876 politics behind. Find a different and unrelated hook for this article. —David Eppstein (talk) 22:14, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- Also there were many problems with the 1876 United States presidential election apart from rounding methods, so it is not an ideal example of the effect of rounding. TSventon (talk) 15:30, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- I'm sure they were, but round-off error was definitely involved as well, as per the sources, no? —Closed Limelike Curves (talk) 18:20, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- Also there were many problems with the 1876 United States presidential election apart from rounding methods, so it is not an ideal example of the effect of rounding. TSventon (talk) 15:30, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- I would not use ALT1a at all, because it is misleading. All (unfixed) elections are decided by the choices of the voters and the voting system used for the election. All representative systems round, and all rounding systems produce rounding errors. ALT1a suggests to the reader, incorrectly, that the result of the 1876 election was somehow the wrong result, and that if only people had known how to perform arithmetic correctly then the outcome would have been different. It was the correct result, for the voting system chosen for that election, and the arithmetic was performed correctly. Get off this hobbyhorse of correctness and error. Leave 1876 politics behind. Find a different and unrelated hook for this article. —David Eppstein (talk) 22:14, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- The nominator brought this up in the WP Discord asking for input. For what it's worth, David Eppstein's commentary is accurate. It is not acceptable in Wikivoice to say that these were "rounding errors" (ALT1A) or that it was not "correct" (ALT1), and ALT0/0A are deeply misleading. A new hook should be offered. This was an unavoidable quirk of the system chosen, but as already stated, there is inherently going to be drift in any system attempting to lodge fractional pegs into integer holes. That's exactly the problem being solved. Any alternative system could have other "haha look this number rounded to this wrong number" issues as well. SnowFire (talk) 18:27, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- Quick edit to ward off an objection: there's two sense of "error". Of course there were rounding errors in the mathematical sense of the distance from the real number to the result, but there's also errors in the sense of "being wrong", which is how a standard reader will read hook 1A. But as discussed, no such error in that sense of the word was made. SnowFire (talk) 18:37, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- That's reasonable! I have no objections to tidying up the phrasing, and I can see how someone might misunderstand what I meant by "rounding errors". Do you have any suggestions for how to rephrase this more clearly? Do you think ALT1c looks good? Thanks! —Closed Limelike Curves (talk) 18:48, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
This was an unavoidable quirk of the system chosen, but as already stated, there is inherently going to be drift in any system attempting to lodge fractional pegs into integer holes.
- Quick edit to ward off an objection: there's two sense of "error". Of course there were rounding errors in the mathematical sense of the distance from the real number to the result, but there's also errors in the sense of "being wrong", which is how a standard reader will read hook 1A. But as discussed, no such error in that sense of the word was made. SnowFire (talk) 18:37, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not sure what you're disagreeing with here, though. Yes, there is unavoidable drift (although I'd note the largest remainder methods don't violate quota rule) and in this case, the method used by Congress had an unusual/unavoidable quirk (which eventually led them to reject it). This quirk is interesting, which is why I think it makes a good DYK. —Closed Limelike Curves (talk) 18:48, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- It's better, but TSventon's concern remains. The 1876 election is just an unusually weird example to pick - sure, the apportionment system mattered, but so did the decision for electoral votes to include Senators (i.e. Nevada having 3 votes rather than 1 vote). So did voter suppression in the South (this & many elections until the 1960s, alas). So did the Compromise of 1877. You've picked an election which was so close that just about everything could be said to have affected the result. Moreover, it's not even clear that this was the fault of the "algorithm used to decide rounding" - it depends on what exactly was going on with the "supplemental apportionment" that the Balinksi & Young source describes.
- Are there any non-1876 election related hooks to be had? If you really want to do one there, then I think we need some deep, ironclad sourcing from someone who both knows the politics AND the math behind it. So more than just passing mention or the half-page in Balinkski & Young. SnowFire (talk) 19:40, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- There is a more detailed account of the 1876 allocation on pages 71 and 72 of a US Government report here. But I am still not keen on an 1876 hook. TSventon (talk) 22:50, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- Agree an 1876 source is not ideal. That said, if the supplemental apportionment was a true "fudge", then that wasn't the fault of any rounding method, that was just an exercise in raw power politics, which is a little off-topic from the article and thus not a great hook for a different reason. SnowFire (talk) 23:44, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- The source is dated 1981 on its front cover, but I am still not keen on a hook about the highly contested 1876 election. TSventon (talk) 17:36, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Closed Limelike Curves: Please address the above. Z1720 (talk) 14:55, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- The source is dated 1981 on its front cover, but I am still not keen on a hook about the highly contested 1876 election. TSventon (talk) 17:36, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Agree an 1876 source is not ideal. That said, if the supplemental apportionment was a true "fudge", then that wasn't the fault of any rounding method, that was just an exercise in raw power politics, which is a little off-topic from the article and thus not a great hook for a different reason. SnowFire (talk) 23:44, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- There is a more detailed account of the 1876 allocation on pages 71 and 72 of a US Government report here. But I am still not keen on an 1876 hook. TSventon (talk) 22:50, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not sure what you're disagreeing with here, though. Yes, there is unavoidable drift (although I'd note the largest remainder methods don't violate quota rule) and in this case, the method used by Congress had an unusual/unavoidable quirk (which eventually led them to reject it). This quirk is interesting, which is why I think it makes a good DYK. —Closed Limelike Curves (talk) 18:48, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
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[edit]Huang Wenxiu
- ... that following her death in 2019, Huang Wenxiu was elevated into a national model by the Chinese Communist Party in recognition of her work as a party secretary of a village in rural China?
- ALT1: ... that Huang Wenxiu gave up looking for a professional job in Beijing and decided to take part in poverty alleviation in rural China? Source: China’s Communist Party tries to create a new hero for the masses - Washington Post
芳华无悔——追记用生命坚守初心和使命的青年共产党员黄文秀 - Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Alasan Ann
Toadboy123 (talk) 13:44, 7 July 2024 (UTC).
Good except for some minor issues. Long enough, new enough at the time of nomination, Earwig detects no copyvios. Aside from the one failed verification I tagged, all the English-language sources seem OK. It might be good to wikilink the names of the news sources if they have Wikipedia articles, just to make it totally clear what their relation to the CCP is, but the page text handles the English-language CCP media outlets appropriately.
- Minor grammar issues: I would expect "killed by a flash flood" rather than "killed by flash flood". This could be a variety of English thing, though. I'd also expect "Title of" instead of just "Title".
- I prefer ALT0 to ALT1, but both could be condensed and punched up. Apocheir (talk) 01:09, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
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[edit]We did it, Joe!
- ... that Keke Palmer did an impression of "We did it, Joe!" to Kamala Harris's face?
- Source: "Palmer loves that meme so much, in fact, that she did her Kamala Harris, "We did it, Joe!" impression in front of Harris herself." (NBC)
- ALT1: ... that Doug Emhoff filmed Kamala Harris saying "We did it, Joe"? Source: https://www.businessinsider.com/kamala-harris-we-did-it-joe-recorded-by-doug-emhoff-2022-8
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Piano Quintet (Shostakovich)
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Overall: Article new and long enough. Passes earwig, no close paraphrasing was found, and the hook seems interesting. QPQ done. Toadboy123 (talk) 18:00, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Spaghettifier, Toadboy123, and AirshipJungleman29:
I can't call the race for this hook just yet, unfortunately :) it looks like there are a few things we need to fix up. First, there are a couple of unsourced statements in the article, and some statements sourced to really-not-great publications like BuzzFeed and Distractify. Second, the operative text of the hook is taken from BuzzFeed's headline (I'm sure by accident!). Third, the background section is... uncomfortably big. Once it's pared back, I'm not sure if the article would survive a WP:NOPAGE challenge, but let's resolve those problems first and then a merge discussion is hopefully avoidable. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 09:27, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Spaghettifier: Please address the above. I'd also whinge about that WP:CLUMP of references for the quote.--Launchballer 12:42, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the ping! Cut down background a bit, replaced the Buzzfeed and Distractify sources and revised a couple grafs. We could default to ALT1 or revise the OG hook as ALT2: ... that Keke Palmer did an impression of "We did it, Joe!" onstage with Kamala Harris? Spaghettifier (talk) 22:59, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Fine by me. @Theleekycauldron:, what do you think?--Launchballer 07:44, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the ping! Cut down background a bit, replaced the Buzzfeed and Distractify sources and revised a couple grafs. We could default to ALT1 or revise the OG hook as ALT2: ... that Keke Palmer did an impression of "We did it, Joe!" onstage with Kamala Harris? Spaghettifier (talk) 22:59, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Spaghettifier: Please address the above. I'd also whinge about that WP:CLUMP of references for the quote.--Launchballer 12:42, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on July 9
[edit]Durrës Expedition
- ... that the Durrës Expedition in 1376 saw Louis of Évreux successfully recapture Durrës from Karl Thopia, only for Thopia to reclaim the city in 1383?
- Source: J. M. Hussey. The Cambridge medieval history. Volume IV. Part I, The Byzantine empire. Byzantium and its neighbours. University Press. p. 419. ISBN 978-0-5210-4535-3. "...The Navarrese Company succeeded in occupying Durazzo, apparently in the midsummer of 1376..."
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Arberian2444 (talk) 03:08, 10 July 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: The article otherwise looks good, with AGF on the offline sources. IceWelder [✉] 16:07, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- Customary ping @Arberian2444. IceWelder [✉] 07:40, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Arberian2444: Please address the above. Z1720 (talk) 00:52, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- Customary ping @Arberian2444. IceWelder [✉] 07:40, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Z1720: Hello! Sorry I’m currently not by my computer. The article does not need to cite that source! Arberian2444 (talk) 23:40, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on July 10
[edit]Tropical Storm Chris (2024)
- ... that Tropical Storm Chris (pictured) in July 2024 overflowed bodies of water in Ciudad Madero, Mexico, resulting in a crocodile sighting at a beach?
IrishSurfer21 (talk) 22:13, 10 July 2024 (UTC).
The article fulfills all the standards for a DYK, being new, long, and interesting enough. I'll accept it. OhHaiMark (talk) 12:10, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- @IrishSurfer21 and OhHaiMark:
looks like it was just one croc sighting at the beach? also, i know we can't make up graphics, but it's criminal that we couldn't have one with a croc in beach shorts with sunglasses and a piña colada with a straw... theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 10:13, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- @IrishSurfer21: Please address the above. Z1720 (talk) 00:52, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Z1720: Issue addressed. IrishSurfer21 (talk • contribs) 02:05, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Theleekycauldron: Have your concerns been resolved? Z1720 (talk) 02:06, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- @IrishSurfer21 and OhHaiMark:
Articles created/expanded on July 13
[edit]Leanne Mohamad
- ... that despite not being affiliated with a political party, Leanne Mohamad came within 528 votes of defeating shadow health secretary Wes Streeting in the 2024 UK general election?
- Reviewed:
- Comment: Not created by myself, but expanded (hopefully) sufficiently to get it up to DYK status.
Iostn (talk) 19:21, 20 July 2024 (UTC).
- Note: the original hook was above 200 characters and thus cannot be used. Below are truncated versions that meet the requirements:
- ALT0a ... that despite not being affiliated with a political party, Leanne Mohamad came within 528 votes of defeating shadow health secretary Wes Streeting in the 2024 UK general election?
- ALT0b ... that despite being an independent candidate, Leanne Mohamad came within 528 votes of defeating shadow health secretary Wes Streeting in the 2024 UK general election?
- The original hook is thus struck: a full review is still needed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:24, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- @User:Narutolovehinata5 The hook (initially under 100chs) got messed with by the page creator... who has seemingly been making a lot of dubious changes, including to the page itself. I'll really have to re-review this, even if it was fine beforehand... Iostn (talk) 19:26, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
Margaret Coe
- ... that seven paintings by impressionist painter Margaret Coe belong to the Oregon Legislative Assembly, including Crater Lake #2 (pictured) on display at the Oregon State Capitol?
- Source: Oregon Legislature, Public Art Archive
- ALT1: ... that Crater Lake #2 (pictured), on display at the Oregon State Capitol, was painted by Margaret Coe, the 8th great granddaughter of colonist Robert Coe? Source: Oregon Legislature, Robert Coe, Puritan, Olmstead, Henry King (2021). Olmsted genealogy, third-fourth supplement, 1923-28. Hassell Street Press. ISBN 1013458974., "Curtis Claire Coe". Statesman Journal. October 29, 1996.
- Reviewed: NA
- Comment: I'm partial to Alt1. I'm a historian, so I imagine Alt0 is more interesting to a general audience.
AnotherColonialHistorian (talk) 21:26, 13 July 2024 (UTC).
- Not a review, but are we sure that the impressionist painting by Coe is released under the Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International license? The source is offline, so it's difficult to check. I'm not sure if the Oregon Legislature and Coe would need to agree to jointly release the work in order for the license to be valid. Bremps... 19:04, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- Updating with what I could find online. Ownership was transferred to the State of Oregon, per [5]. AnotherColonialHistorian (talk) 14:50, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
Nathaniel Coe
- ... that the founder of Hood River, Oregon, Nathaniel Coe (pictured), a great-grandfather of Tony Goldwyn and descendant of Robert Coe, wrote the first women's rights law in the New York State Assembly?
- ALT1: ... that the founder of Hood River, Oregon, Nathaniel Coe (pictured), a great-grandfather of Tony Goldwyn and descendant of Robert Coe, served four terms in the New York State Assembly? Source: History of Allegany county, History of Livingston County, New York
- ALT2: ... that the founder of Hood River, Oregon, Nathaniel Coe (pictured), a great-grandfather of Tony Goldwyn and descendant of Robert Coe, declined a nomination to serve on the United States Senate? Source: Columbia Gorge News
- ALT3: ... that the founder of Hood River, Oregon, Nathaniel Coe (pictured), a great-grandfather of Tony Goldwyn and descendant of Robert Coe, was appointed by Millard Fillmore as a Special Postal Agent? Source: Oregon Historical Society Research Library
- ALT4: ... that the founder of Hood River, Oregon, Nathaniel Coe (pictured), a great-grandfather of Tony Goldwyn and descendant of Robert Coe, served in all three branches of state government? Source: Oregon Historical Society Research Library
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Fred Thomas (British politician)
- Comment: Open to other hooks. He was a very interesting person to learn about!
AnotherColonialHistorian (talk) 15:16, 13 July 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on July 14
[edit]Upper Ivory Coast
- ... that most of present-day Burkina Faso was part of the Upper Ivory Coast administrative region from 1938 to 1947?
Soman (talk) 14:37, 14 July 2024 (UTC).
- Is there a reliable source for this assertion? simongraham (talk) 12:30, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Yes. See [6] (p. 135), "Devenue la Haute - Côte - d'Ivoire , plus de la moitié du territoire burkinabè , où résident plus des deux tiers de sa population , est rattachée à la colonie ivoirienne ." --Soman (talk) 23:47, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you. The page cited also notes the years. Earwig gives 0% chance of copyright violation, which is very impressive. QPQ is confirmed. I do not feel that the hook is as compelling as could be. Is there an interesting reason why Burkina Faso did not exist between 1938 and 1947 and was rather absorbed into Upper Ivory Coast? simongraham (talk) 14:40, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- First of all, the name Burkina Faso was not in use until 1984 (thus the wording 'present-day Burkina Faso'). There was a French colony called Upper Volta, which later became the Republic of Upper Volta which later was renamed Burkina Faso. Upper Volta was, as indicated in the article, abolished in 1932 and most of its territory merged into Ivory Coast. These parts merged with Ivory Coast became the region of Upper Ivory Coast in 1938. Essentially, which is implied in the article, the French used Upper Volta/Upper Ivory Coast as a pool for recruitment of labour for their plantations in (lower) Ivory Coast. Upper Volta was reconstituted in 1947 due to the pressure of Mossi elites. --Soman (talk) 11:55, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- That is interesting. Do you think there is anything we can add to or change in the hook to make it more compelling? simongraham (talk) 07:07, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that the Upper Ivory Coast was created from the former French Upper Volta to facilitate the provision of forced plantation labour? CMD (talk) 13:11, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- That is interesting. Do you think there is anything we can add to or change in the hook to make it more compelling? simongraham (talk) 07:07, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- First of all, the name Burkina Faso was not in use until 1984 (thus the wording 'present-day Burkina Faso'). There was a French colony called Upper Volta, which later became the Republic of Upper Volta which later was renamed Burkina Faso. Upper Volta was, as indicated in the article, abolished in 1932 and most of its territory merged into Ivory Coast. These parts merged with Ivory Coast became the region of Upper Ivory Coast in 1938. Essentially, which is implied in the article, the French used Upper Volta/Upper Ivory Coast as a pool for recruitment of labour for their plantations in (lower) Ivory Coast. Upper Volta was reconstituted in 1947 due to the pressure of Mossi elites. --Soman (talk) 11:55, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you. The page cited also notes the years. Earwig gives 0% chance of copyright violation, which is very impressive. QPQ is confirmed. I do not feel that the hook is as compelling as could be. Is there an interesting reason why Burkina Faso did not exist between 1938 and 1947 and was rather absorbed into Upper Ivory Coast? simongraham (talk) 14:40, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- Yes. See [6] (p. 135), "Devenue la Haute - Côte - d'Ivoire , plus de la moitié du territoire burkinabè , où résident plus des deux tiers de sa population , est rattachée à la colonie ivoirienne ." --Soman (talk) 23:47, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on July 15
[edit]A. Sreekar Prasad filmography
- ... that Indian film editor A. Sreekar Prasad won the National Award for Best Editing in his debut film Raakh in 1989 and was the first-ever recipient of the Special Jury Award for editing in 2009?
- ALT1: ... that Indian film editor A. Sreekar Prasad holds a record for editing films in 17 different languages? Source: https://www.newindianexpress.com/entertainment/malayalam/2020/Feb/28/film-editor-sreekar-prasad-enters-the-limca-book-of-records-2109444.html
- ALT2: ... that Indian film editor A. Sreekar Prasad holds a record for editing films in 17 different languages and has won eight National Awards from five different Presidents between 1988 and 2010?
- Reviewed:
Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 05:40, 22 July 2024 (UTC).
- Comment The obvious problem is that your hooks don't link the nominated article. Next problem is that the nominated article should appear in bold font. Schwede66 23:44, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- User:Schwede66, I have linked them to A. Sreekar Prasad filmography and have made them bold. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 06:11, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
I think the hooks still fall afoul of WP:EGG, when I click on the links, I would assume that they lead to the main article on A. Sreekar Prasad, not their filmography, maybe they need to be reworded.? Sohom (talk) 08:21, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- How are BLP filmography and list articles handled in DYK? or are they not nominated? Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 05:34, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- I was checking the archives and found this. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 05:45, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
Tukdam
- ... that the Dalai Lama persuaded scientists to study a Buddhist tradition?
- Source: * Lott, Dylan T.; Yeshi, Tenzin; Norchung, N.; Dolma, Sonam; et al. (2021-01-28). "No Detectable Electroencephalographic Activity After Clinical Declaration of Death Among Tibetan Buddhist Meditators in Apparent Tukdam, a Putative Postmortem Meditation State". Frontiers in Psychology. 11. doi:10.3389/fpsyg.2020.599190. ISSN 1664-1078. PMC 7876463. PMID 33584435.
Tukdam Project, developed in conversations between Dr. Richard J. Davidson and His Holiness Tenzin Gyatso, the XIV Dalai Lama ... Dalai Lama regularly speaks of the importance of scientific research on tukdam in his public talks to the Tibetan community
- Reviewed:
- Comment: This looks like my last free QpQ ticket
Викидим (talk) 01:05, 16 July 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on July 17
[edit]The Eternaut
- ... that Héctor Germán Oesterheld (pictured) repurposed his initial plans for a sequel of the comic The Eternaut as a novel?
- Source: García, Fernando; Ostuni, Hernán (September 2002). "Historieta & Sociedad: El Eternauta" [Comic books & Society: The Eternaut] (PDF). Revista latinoamericana de estudios sobre la historieta (in Spanish). La Habana, Cuba: Pablo de la Torriente Editorial. Archived (PDF) from the original on 23 June 2023. Retrieved 22 June 2023.
Cambalachero (talk) 13:47, 18 July 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on July 18
[edit]Masada myth
- ... that although Israel honored 27 ancient Masada skeletons with a state funeral in 1969, the story of "freedom fighters' patriotic last stand" is now known to be a myth?
- Source: Ben-Yehuda, Nachman (1996). Masada Myth: Collective Memory and Mythmaking in Israel. University of Wisconsin Press. ISBN 978-0-299-14833-1, p. xxi: "The bones of twenty-seven humans found on Masada are brought to burial in an official state ceremony."; pages 241-243: "The affair began in October 1963… Immediately, there were newspaper reports to the effect that the remains were probably of the fighters of Masada, and a state burial ceremony was called for. This issue was raised in March 1967, once again, by the same Shlomo Lorentz of the ultra-Orthodox party Agudat Israel. In a blazing speech in the Knesset he demanded that the remains of the skeletons found on Masada should be given a Jewish burial. Mr. Aharon Yadlin, then the minister of culture and education, pointed out that the Jewish identity of the skeletons had not been established and suggested passing the whole issue on to one of the Knesset’s committees. His suggestion was accepted. In fact, the Knesset’s Committee on Culture and Education held a discussion with Yadin on this particular issue in February and March of 1968… On March 12, 1969, Yigael Yadin told Haaretz that he was opposed to a public burial ceremony. He stated that the evidence of the identity of the skeletons was not conclusive enough. He also stated that he believed that the bones were those of the people of Masada but that he lacked definitive proof. In response to this, the spokesman for the Ministry of Religious Affairs stated the next day, also in Haaretz, that “the heroes of Masada came there from Jerusalem and fought the war of the holy city; therefore, it is only natural that their bones would find their final resting place on the Mount of Olives, which was a Jewish cemetery during the days of the Second Temple…. on July 7, 1969, the skeletons that had been uncovered by Yadin’s excavations about five years earlier were brought to burial in a full and formal military ceremony near Masada, at a place called “the hill of the defenders… An impressive array of dignitaries (including Menachem Begin, Yigael Yadin, and Rabbi Shlomo Goren) were present at the burial ceremonies."
Onceinawhile (talk) 05:24, 18 July 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: 2603:7000:2101:AA00:A91E:FA5D:EAB2:D6B0 (talk) 09:26, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
I don't think this is that bad to deserve a cross, but you'll definitely want to add a cite to the first paragraph of Yadin's executions at minimum, and that's before interrogating any of the sources.--Launchballer 14:45, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks @Launchballer: I have added a cross-ref (it had been referenced at the end of the paragraph, but the paragraph was then split in to two). Re the IP's comments, the citation quote gives all the info about the funeral, and the rest of his book is about the myth. I guess the IP is referring to the latter question. I can bring some more quotes if helpful.
- For context, all the sources in the article say essentially the same thing – there is only one known original source for this event, Josephus. The Israeli national myth version differs from that story in a number of significant ways. We can add some nuance to the words "is now known to be a myth" if that is helpful, but the underlying point is beyond doubt.
- Onceinawhile (talk) 16:28, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- It's not a question of "nuance." There is no consensus - as incorrectly and blatantly stated - in RS refs that it "is now known to be a myth." That's simply fake news. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:A91E:FA5D:EAB2:D6B0 (talk) 21:10, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- The wording that it "is now known to be a myth" is simply not supported by the source provided. Perhaps "believed by some to be a myth" or even better "described by one scholar as a myth" could be supported by the citation, but "is now known to be a myth" embellishes the source far beyond any justifiable limit. Alansohn (talk) 01:43, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- What is the “it” you are referring to? Onceinawhile (talk) 06:36, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Alansohn: regarding your comment from a few weeks ago, a new section (Masada_myth#Decline) has now been added to the article as suggested by User:Uppagus. It includes a list of the notable scholars which published on this topic between 1975 and Nachman Ben-Yehuda's book in 1996, as given by Ben-Yehuda.
- I have read widely on this topic, including the most recent work by Jodi Magness, and can firmly confirm that there is no scholarly debate as to whether this specific narrative is a myth. Not a single dissenting voice. Onceinawhile (talk) 21:18, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- What is the “it” you are referring to? Onceinawhile (talk) 06:36, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- Once -- the statement is simply not supported by any of the refs. It's really that simple. Actually, this brings the entire article into question now that I consider it. Plus, it doesn't seem to warrant a standalone article at all. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:6043:6D87:AEA7:B5C8 (talk) 06:26, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- Belatedly noting that the article is at a (particularly bad-tempered) AfD, and this should go on hold until this is kept.--Launchballer 12:06, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Closed as no consensus. This does still sport a {{neutrality}} tag @Onceinawhile:, and I suggest this is actioned.--Launchballer 11:16, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks Launchballer. The tag was added without explanation, and the editor who added it was asked to share their concerns on the talk page 10 days ago. I have pinged them again at Talk:Masada_myth#Ensuring_balance, so hopefully we should have clarity soon. Onceinawhile (talk) 17:39, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: it looks like there was no objection to removing the tag, as the pinged editors declined to comment. My sense is that enough people have now read the article and sources, and have come to understand the topic and its context. Onceinawhile (talk) 22:53, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- There are POV issues with the article as it currently stands. I wrote a detailed, and yet partial explanation on the article's talk page.
- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Uppagus (talk • contribs) 07:17, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks Uppagus. I have responded on the talk page with proposed solutions. Onceinawhile (talk) 08:27, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: it looks like there was no objection to removing the tag, as the pinged editors declined to comment. My sense is that enough people have now read the article and sources, and have come to understand the topic and its context. Onceinawhile (talk) 22:53, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks Launchballer. The tag was added without explanation, and the editor who added it was asked to share their concerns on the talk page 10 days ago. I have pinged them again at Talk:Masada_myth#Ensuring_balance, so hopefully we should have clarity soon. Onceinawhile (talk) 17:39, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- Closed as no consensus. This does still sport a {{neutrality}} tag @Onceinawhile:, and I suggest this is actioned.--Launchballer 11:16, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- Belatedly noting that the article is at a (particularly bad-tempered) AfD, and this should go on hold until this is kept.--Launchballer 12:06, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Once -- the statement is simply not supported by any of the refs. It's really that simple. Actually, this brings the entire article into question now that I consider it. Plus, it doesn't seem to warrant a standalone article at all. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:6043:6D87:AEA7:B5C8 (talk) 06:26, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
Khalji Revolution
- ... that the Khalji Revolution led by Jalaluddin Khalji saw the fall of the Turkic Mamluk Dynasty and the rise of the Turko-Afghan Khalji dynasty to rule the Delhi Sultanate?
- Reviewed:
Noorullah (talk) 03:06, 18 July 2024 (UTC).
- Not a review, but just wanted to leave some alts:
- ALT1: ...that during the Khalji Revolution, the sultan Qaiqabad was wrapped in a carpet and thrown into the Yamuna river?
- ALT2: ...that the child sultan Shamsuddin Kayumars was imprisoned and deposed as a result of the Khalji Revolution?
- Kimikel (talk) 03:31, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
David Yong
- ... that David Yong's interest in K-pop started after he took his younger brother to a Twice concert in 2017? Source: https://www.tnp.sg/entertainment/music/singaporean-lawyer-ceo-david-yong-makes-k-pop-debut-signs-mamamoos-agency
- ALT1: ... that Singapore-born businessman and K-Pop singer David Yong invested 10 billion won ($7.5 million USD) to an entertainment agency that faced a legal dispute with its only artist? Source: https://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20240303050161
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Blinking Sam
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Overall: I want to suggest linking "an entertainment agency" and "its only artist" to their respective articles, but not sure if that would be overlinking. Just a thought—otherwise all looks good. I prefer ALT0, just waiting for QPQ now. Bsoyka (t • c • g) 01:45, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- I did consider linking those terms, but ultimately decided not to because of the aforementioned reason. QPQ now done. Thanks for the review, Bsoyka! ~ Tails Wx 20:06, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- Works for me—here's the beautiful green stamp of approval.
Great work here! Bsoyka (t • c • g) 21:50, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- Works for me—here's the beautiful green stamp of approval.
I don't know if DYK?again is the right icon to use here, but a question popped up on my talk page which might affect this nom, so I'll just copy that to this page and let the conversation continue here. RoySmith (talk) 20:33, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
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- From the discussion above: I definitely do think that the recent news does impact ALT1, though ALT0 doesn't seem to be impacted by this, other than the mention of Yong. The reviewer, Bsoyka, did prefer ALT0, and I almost don't see a problem with it being accepted, other than given the recent news on Yong's financial problems, which does make me re-think that for a bit. ~ Tails Wx 03:06, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- WP:DYKBLP suggests avoiding undue attention on contentious information, but negative developments do not disqualify a subject from being on DYK as long as BLP and other guidelines/policies are followed. As long as the article is updated, and given how Yong is not primarily known for the recent incident, I can't see how the latest incident should prevent this from being promoted with ALT0. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:35, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- My only concern is ALT1. I am ambivalent about the rest. – robertsky (talk) 16:40, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on July 19
[edit]Jubilee Bridge (Tay)
- ... that the course of the River Tay was diverted to allow construction of the Jubilee Bridge (pictured)?
- Source: https://www.scottishroadsarchive.org/a9 North of here, the course of the River Tay was diverted to allow the new road to run along the river valley.
- ALT1: ... that the construction of the Jubilee Bridge (pictured) over the River Tay was featured in the reconstruction of the A9 documentary? Source: https://movingimage.nls.uk/film/1962 (its a film)
- Reviewed:
JuniperChill (talk) 11:29, 20 July 2024 (UTC).
All good except: (1) some portions of the text lack citations; (2) there is some copied text per Earwig's tool: [9]; and (3) the last sentence of the lead doesn't have a period. Please add cites, rewrite the copyvio in your own words, and fix the missing period. voorts (talk/contributions) 21:20, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- I also don't find ALT1 to be interesting enough. voorts (talk/contributions) 21:24, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- I will be off until 10am UK/UTC time Monday since I may not edit on Sunday's and will also be off that day. Also pinging Coldupnorth. Otherwise, I should be able to make those improvements on Monday. It's already 22:42 and I need to sleep. The hot weather is already making it harder. JuniperChill (talk) 21:47, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- I have rewritten text to remove copyvio, added full stop and added references. Thanks. Coldupnorth (talk) 07:59, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- I was about to make the requested changes, but it seems like they have been done. Thank you Coldupnorth for this. To be fair, While I didn't start this article, I made some significant changes to it. I don't really edit on Sunday's as often as other days. JuniperChill (talk) 08:11, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- I have rewritten text to remove copyvio, added full stop and added references. Thanks. Coldupnorth (talk) 07:59, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- I will be off until 10am UK/UTC time Monday since I may not edit on Sunday's and will also be off that day. Also pinging Coldupnorth. Otherwise, I should be able to make those improvements on Monday. It's already 22:42 and I need to sleep. The hot weather is already making it harder. JuniperChill (talk) 21:47, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- I also don't find ALT1 to be interesting enough. voorts (talk/contributions) 21:24, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- voorts, since these changes were made a week ago by the creator, what do you think? JuniperChill (talk) 09:41, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Voorts: Comments on the above? Z1720 (talk) 00:29, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- @JuniperChill, Coldupnorth, and Z1720: This sentence lacks a citation: "The project (and therefore the second bridge) was supposed to be complete in 2025, but delays to the project meant that the doubled bridge will be finished by 2032 instead with the project as a whole in 2035." Earwig still shows some coypvio. voorts (talk/contributions) 01:47, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- I saw a comment which said in the source editor "see main A9 dualling project for verification", so does that actually count (ie, users can verify the information by reading the A9 dualling project article) or it has to be a proper inline citation? I also think 12% copyvio is alright because its only like 1-2 paragraphs out of, like 30. JuniperChill (talk) 22:42, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- @JuniperChill, Coldupnorth, and Z1720: This sentence lacks a citation: "The project (and therefore the second bridge) was supposed to be complete in 2025, but delays to the project meant that the doubled bridge will be finished by 2032 instead with the project as a whole in 2035." Earwig still shows some coypvio. voorts (talk/contributions) 01:47, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Voorts: Comments on the above? Z1720 (talk) 00:29, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
Gene Camarena, Yolanda Camarena
... that Gene and Yolanda Camarena were inducted together into the Kansas Business Hall of Fame?Source: Jones, Shayndel (2024-04-25). "Kansas Business Hall of Fame announces 2024 inductees". WIBW. Emporia, Kansas: Gray Television. Retrieved 2024-06-13.- ALT1:
... that Gene and Yolanda Camarena gave $1 million to Wichita State University, with over half that amount designated for scholarships for Hispanic and Black students?Source: Leiker, Amy Renee (2020-09-01). "$1M gift to help students of color at WSU". The Wichita Eagle. pp. A1, A5 – via Newspapers.com. - Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/John S. McCain Sr. and Template:Did you know nominations/Reduced Gravity Walking Simulator
- Comment: Thanks for the review!
- ALT1:
Bsoyka (t • c • g) 17:22, 19 July 2024 (UTC).
- Will review this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 14:22, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Nearly there. Only need a source in Gene's article for the statement
After attending KU, Camarena moved to Wichita, Kansas, where he has lived since, except for his two years spent at Harvard.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:00, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- @BeanieFan11: Ah, good catch, thanks! Added. Bsoyka (t • c • g) 05:26, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- @BeanieFan11: Hey, just following up here! Bsoyka (t • c • g) 23:55, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- Oops. Apologies for the delay.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:49, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
- No worries—thanks again for the review! Bsoyka (t • c • g) 16:57, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
- Oops. Apologies for the delay.
- As a note, this probably needs to go on hold (or at least wait to be promoted) until the
{{Notability}}
tag added to the article and this associated discussion resolve themselves, per WP:DYKTAG. Bsoyka (t • c • g) 21:12, 4 August 2024 (UTC)consensus on the talkpage is that this article is not notable and it has been PRODed. Queen of Hearts (talk) 20:47, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
I missed that this was a double hook. This can proceed without Yolanda, although the hook should probably be reworked. Queen of Hearts (talk) 20:49, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- Ah, thanks for the note! Suggesting the following Gene-only hooks below: Bsoyka (t • c • g) 00:01, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- ALT0b: ... that Gene Camarena was inducted into the Kansas Business Hall of Fame? Source: Jones, Shayndel (2024-04-25). "Kansas Business Hall of Fame announces 2024 inductees". WIBW. Emporia, Kansas: Gray Television. Retrieved 2024-06-13.
- ALT2: ... that Gene Camarena is in the International Pizza Hut Franchise Holders Association Hall of Fame? "Board of Directors". Pizza Hut Foundation. Retrieved 2024-06-13.
- ALT3: ... that Gene Camarena oversees over 60 Pizza Hut locations? "Locations". La Raza Pizza. 2010. Retrieved 2024-06-13.
New reviewer needs for ALTs 2 & 3 (0b seems uninteresting). ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:34, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- Ah, thanks for the note! Suggesting the following Gene-only hooks below: Bsoyka (t • c • g) 00:01, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, I don't find either ALT2 or ALT3 interesting. What's unusual about a businessman winning a business award?--Launchballer 22:12, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- Maybe it's just me, but I did find it rather interesting that there's even an international hall of fame for Pizza Hut franchisees. ALT3 is interesting to me (though less than ALT2), but maybe it's because I'm not from a business background. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:37, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, I don't find either ALT2 or ALT3 interesting. What's unusual about a businessman winning a business award?--Launchballer 22:12, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- I'm gonna pop in and suggest an alt hook, do with it what you will.
- ALT4: ... that the CEO of a pizza chain has multiple honorary doctorates? https://mag.newmanu.edu/honorarydegrees15/, https://foundation.wichita.edu/gene-and-yolanda-camarena-receive-honorary-doctorates/ Di (they-them) (talk) 15:44, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on July 21
[edit]I'll See You in C-U-B-A
... that the 1920 song "I'll See You in C-U-B-A" invites its listeners to "hop on a ship to Havana" to indulge in alcohol?
- ALT1: ... that Irving Berlin's 1920 song "I'll See You in C-U-B-A" was a direct response to alcohol prohibition in the United States? Source: https://www.google.com/books/edition/Harmony_and_Normalization/E5QAEAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22i%27ll+see+you+in+c.u.b.a.%22+%22tin+pan%22&pg=PA5&printsec=frontcover
- ALT2: ... that 1920 foxtrot song "I'll See You in C-U-B-A" is an example of Cuba being percieved as "America's playground"? Source: https://www.google.com/books/edition/Harmony_and_Normalization/E5QAEAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22i%27ll+see+you+in+c.u.b.a.%22+%22tin+pan%22&pg=PA5&printsec=frontcover
- Reviewed:
- Comment: I don't think the image is necessary, but it is a fine illustration if wanted.
Evedawn99 (talk) 21:47, 21 July 2024 (UTC).
- Comment (not a full review): According to A Simple Word Counter, the article only has around 1,200 characters of prose (the song's lyrics do not count per WP:DYKLEN, as they are text presumably copied from the public domain). As such, it falls short of the 1,500 characters needed for article eligibility in DYK. Leafy46 (talk) 21:05, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hello and thank you, Leafy46: I had forgotten about the 1,200 characters of prose necessity and I appreciate the link to WP:DYKLEN. I will see if I can add more historical information in the meantime, and again I appreciate your comment. Evedawn99 (talk) 01:03, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
- This is way over 1,500 characters now, but I should point out that the in popular culture section has significant WP:PROSELINE issues and I'd be looking for a strong rationale as to what it's doing there given WP:INPOPULARCULTURE. I have also struck ALT0 per WP:DYKFICTION.--Launchballer 12:23, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Evedawn99: Please address the above.--Launchballer 18:30, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Launchballer:, thank you for looking it over and please pardon my late response. I hadn't heard of WP:PROSELINE before and I appreciate the constructive criticism. I've since done my best to solve this issue and hope it reads better now. I also appreciate you striking ALT0 as is appropriate based on WP:DYKFICTION. Evedawn99 (talk) 02:25, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
Much better. Full review needed.--Launchballer 07:30, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Launchballer:, thank you for looking it over and please pardon my late response. I hadn't heard of WP:PROSELINE before and I appreciate the constructive criticism. I've since done my best to solve this issue and hope it reads better now. I also appreciate you striking ALT0 as is appropriate based on WP:DYKFICTION. Evedawn99 (talk) 02:25, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Evedawn99: Please address the above.--Launchballer 18:30, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- This is way over 1,500 characters now, but I should point out that the in popular culture section has significant WP:PROSELINE issues and I'd be looking for a strong rationale as to what it's doing there given WP:INPOPULARCULTURE. I have also struck ALT0 per WP:DYKFICTION.--Launchballer 12:23, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
Dublin Castle scandal
- ... that Irish nationalist William O'Brien's allegations of homosexual activities by British administrators in Dublin caused quite the scandal? Source: Lacey, Brian (2008). Terrible Queer Creatures - Homosexuality in Irish History. Wordwell. pp. 135–150. ISBN 9781905569236. Walshe, Éibhear (2005). "The First Gay Irishman? Ireland and the Wilde Trials". Éire-Ireland. 40 (3–4 (fall-winter)): 38–57. Archived from the original on 2008-05-12. Retrieved 2014-11-11."Trial of Cornwall and Kirwan". Freeman's Journal and Daily Commercial Advertiser. Dublin, Ireland. October 29, 1884.
- ALT1: ... that the Dublin Castle scandal in 1884 led to resignations, loss of position, and criminal convictions for a number of British administrators in Dublin, and celebrations amongst Irish nationalists? Source: same
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Francis Procter
Bogger (talk) 11:56, 21 July 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on July 22
[edit]Siege of Perth (1339)
- ... that a warrant was issued to pay a force to relieve the Siege of Perth two months after the garrison had surrendered this day in 1339?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Kimboo
- Comment: Would be good to run on 17 August, the anniversary of the end of the siege.
CSJJ104 (talk) 20:32, 22 July 2024 (UTC).
- After rereading this, possibly this is a better wording?
- Alt1 ... that a warrant was issued to pay a force to relieve the Siege of Perth in October after the garrison had surrendered on 17 August? CSJJ104 (talk) 00:24, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
State Publishing House of Ukraine
- ... that 1920s belles-lettres books published by the State Publishing House of Ukraine (symbol depicted) would sell out much faster than similar books elsewhere in the Soviet Union in spite of higher prices?
- Source: Bohdan Krawchenko. Social Change and National Consciousness in Twentieth Century Ukraine. Springer, 1987. pp. 95-96
Soman (talk) 12:17, 22 July 2024 (UTC).
- I'm reviewing this. BorgQueen (talk) 09:42, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Soman: I can't see the linked Google Books page. Can you quote the relevant passage here? BorgQueen (talk) 10:55, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on July 23
[edit]Vadym Sukharevsky
- ... that Badger is the first commander of Unmanned Systems Forces?
- Source: "Freshly installed as the head of Ukraine’s Unmanned Systems Forces, the first position of its kind in the world, Colonel Sukharevsky is shaping history once again." Vadym Sukharevsky, the man in charge of Ukraine’s drones
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/The Daleks' Master Plan
- Comment: I have asked on the Ukrainian article for a better cite for the family info. As a native English speaker I cleaned up this translation from the Ukrainian article but please let me know if anything else is needed.
Chidgk1 (talk) 13:17, 23 July 2024 (UTC).
- I don't think this counts as a full review, but this nomination will not pass. The article is full of WP:PROSELINE, which is highly discouraged. The information about his family is inherently unverifiable to anyone who isn't you. How would readers check sources? I want to see this nomination go through, but that won't be possible without restructuring the article to remove the proseline and the family information. Bremps... 04:50, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Chidgk1: Please address the above.--Launchballer 18:18, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry for slow reply - have been up in hills for a week and just got back a couple of hours ago. Have asked on talk page of Ukrainian article if they can find a better cite for the family details than the long video which is there now. Will fix proseline. Chidgk1 (talk) 18:37, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Chidgk1: Please address the above.--Launchballer 18:18, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
Have made some changes - hope someone can now review this. Chidgk1 (talk) 08:10, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
It won't be me for a while as I review oldest first. I would suggest taking the ref out of the infobox and expanding/moving the Family single-sentence WP:PARAGRAPH, although these aren't DYK issues. Full review needed.--Launchballer 09:06, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for quick reply but I don’t understand why it is wrong to have a ref in an infobox. Re expanding I will leave it for a little while in the hope someone else might expand, but feel free to press me if they have not done so in a reasonable time. Chidgk1 (talk) 09:10, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- The relevant policy is MOS:INFOBOXREF, which I'm surprised to find says that they're acceptable in some cases. I would argue that both of the facts should be included in the main body.--Launchballer 09:36, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- OK thanks done Chidgk1 (talk) 15:11, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
Full review needed. (You can reinstate his birthdate when you have a source for it.)--Launchballer 19:29, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- OK thanks done Chidgk1 (talk) 15:11, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- The relevant policy is MOS:INFOBOXREF, which I'm surprised to find says that they're acceptable in some cases. I would argue that both of the facts should be included in the main body.--Launchballer 09:36, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for quick reply but I don’t understand why it is wrong to have a ref in an infobox. Re expanding I will leave it for a little while in the hope someone else might expand, but feel free to press me if they have not done so in a reasonable time. Chidgk1 (talk) 09:10, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
Splitwise
- ... that Splitwise brought about ideas on how to handle money-related conversations with friends and family? Source: Tibken, Shara (2024-05-14). "The Best Way to Split the Check at Group Dinners—and Not Leave Grumpy". The Wall Street Journal. Retrieved 2024-07-22.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Li–Fraumeni syndrome
- Comment: Happy to provide paywalled article text by email—thanks for the review!
Bsoyka (t • c • g) 05:30, 23 July 2024 (UTC).
- Not reviewing, but PSA: Use archive.ph to jump the paywall. It's probably legal. Bremps... 08:07, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on July 24
[edit]Wolfman's Got Nards
- ... that the documentary Wolfman's Got Nards takes its title from a memorable line in the 1987 film The Monster Squad?
- Reviewed:
C F A 💬 22:48, 30 July 2024 (UTC).
Aracy Amaral
- ... that a historian who called the works of Aracy Amaral "a vital reference for the study of art history in Brazil" lamented the lack of English-language translations for her work? Source: The writings of Aracy Amaral, an academic, critic, and curator active since the mid-1960s, are a vital reference for the study of art history in Brazil, and though they have been gathered in several collections in Portuguese, her publications have been vastly undertranslated into English. (p. 105)
ミラP@Miraclepine 02:57, 28 July 2024 (UTC).
Alfredo Gandolfi
- ... that cinematographer Alfredo Gandolfi also had a career as a singer which included more than 300 performances at the Metropolitan Opera?
- Source: Vazzana, Eugene Michael (2001). "Gandolfi, Alfredo E., singer/cameraman". Silent Film Necrology. McFarland & Company. p. 187. ISBN 9780786410590. - for duo career as singer and cameraman
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Warren Lawrence
- Comment: Moved to mainspace on July 24, 2024
4meter4 (talk) 19:26, 24 July 2024 (UTC).
Abduction of Jonila Castro and Jhed Tamano
- ... that two kidnapped activists (pictured) were released after they randomly stated that they were kidnapped?
- Source: ABS-CBN Al-Jazeera Rappler
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗
01:04, 24 July 2024 (UTC).
- Not a review, but the hook could draw more attention with careful omission. How about... ALT1: ... the Filipino government tried forcing two kidnapped activists to confess to being rebels at a press conference, but they had other plans? Bremps... 20:06, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- Pretty good, I'll accept that one.
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗
07:49, 26 July 2024 (UTC).- @TheNuggeteer: Please provide a QPQ, or this may be closed as unsuccessful. Z1720 (talk) 16:40, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Did the QPQ.
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗
23:45, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Did the QPQ.
- @TheNuggeteer: Please provide a QPQ, or this may be closed as unsuccessful. Z1720 (talk) 16:40, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Pretty good, I'll accept that one.
You think you just fell out of a coconut tree?
- ALT1: ... that the KHive is coconut-pilled? Source: https://www.npr.org/2024/07/21/g-s1-12556/kamala-harris-coconut-tree-meme-context-unburdened
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Patrick Gottsch
- Comment: not sure if the video would work here but it might be fun! ;,)
Spaghettifier (talk) 18:43, 24 July 2024 (UTC).
- Will take this up for review. PanagiotisZois (talk) 20:49, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- All right. The article is both new enough (having been created just a few days ago) and long enough; more than 5.000 characters.
- The sources all are reliable and from mostly high-quality periodicals.
- A video is used within the hook, but it is in the public domain, having been created by the White House of America.
- Both hooks are properly cited, with sources that correspond to their location in the article.
- From what I see, QPQ still needs to be done.
- For the hooks themselves, both of them could work. Admittedly, both are somewhat on the humorous side, but I guess that's the point. To hook the reader onto the article. The main hook especially is quite funny (subjective view) and takes advantage of the "Did you know that [XX]" portion of the DYK nominations. However, the second hook also brings up the word "coconut", which has become a meme of its own. Regarding this I'm curious, @Spaghettifier:, I don't suppose you have another hook in mind that uses the word "coconut tree" in it? Maybe "that Kamala Harris' mother asked her if she "just fell out of a coconut tree"?" or akin to that? PanagiotisZois (talk) 21:05, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @PanagiotisZois: thank you for the review! The QPQ is complete here. With regard to the hook, I'd prefer to make ALT0 work if possible — it's lighthearted but pretty widely recognizable at this point, and an iconic part of the article. If we need to go with something more straightforward/coconut-centric, another idea might be using this LA Times quote from the reception section:
- ALT2: ... that Kamala Harris is "fully coconut"?
- Cheers — Spaghettifier (talk) 21:40, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- Alternatively, ALT3: ... whether you just fell out of a coconut tree?
Spaghettifier (talk) 03:51, 25 July 2024 (UTC)- @Spaghettifier: I'm crying. XD ALT #3 is great. Honestly, I do think both this one and the main hook are about equally good, so I'll leave the final decision up to you. With the GPQ done, this is all that remains.PanagiotisZois (talk) 06:49, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- Although one suggestion I do have is that for ALT3, it might be best to just omit the word "whether" altogether. PanagiotisZois (talk) 09:37, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- Maybe save this for an April Fool's hook? Bremps... 16:33, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- I will say I think this is gonna get more pageviews if it goes up before the election. I'm still gonna vote ALT0 or ALT3, up to whoever promotes. Spaghettifier (talk) 18:18, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- I agree. Waiting until next year is overkill. I will go with ALT3. It's catchy, and also includes much of the article's pagename within it. My only question is @Spaghettifier: if you wish to have it remain as is or remove "whether" from it; so that it will read as "Did you know... you just fell out of a coconut tree?".PanagiotisZois (talk) 19:15, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- I like the 'whether' because it a) messes with the form a little bit and b) doesn't automatically accuse the reader of having fallen out a coconut tree. Spaghettifier (talk) 19:21, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- I agree. Waiting until next year is overkill. I will go with ALT3. It's catchy, and also includes much of the article's pagename within it. My only question is @Spaghettifier: if you wish to have it remain as is or remove "whether" from it; so that it will read as "Did you know... you just fell out of a coconut tree?".PanagiotisZois (talk) 19:15, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- I will say I think this is gonna get more pageviews if it goes up before the election. I'm still gonna vote ALT0 or ALT3, up to whoever promotes. Spaghettifier (talk) 18:18, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- Maybe save this for an April Fool's hook? Bremps... 16:33, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- Although one suggestion I do have is that for ALT3, it might be best to just omit the word "whether" altogether. PanagiotisZois (talk) 09:37, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Spaghettifier: I'm crying. XD ALT #3 is great. Honestly, I do think both this one and the main hook are about equally good, so I'll leave the final decision up to you. With the GPQ done, this is all that remains.PanagiotisZois (talk) 06:49, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @PanagiotisZois: thank you for the review! The QPQ is complete here. With regard to the hook, I'd prefer to make ALT0 work if possible — it's lighthearted but pretty widely recognizable at this point, and an iconic part of the article. If we need to go with something more straightforward/coconut-centric, another idea might be using this LA Times quote from the reception section:
All right then. ALT3 is approved as is .--PanagiotisZois (talk) 19:47, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
ALT3 was pulled from Queue by BD2412 per a discussion at WT:DYK, so this will need a new hook. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:37, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on July 25
[edit]Joseva Talacolo
- ... that Olympic rugby sevens player Joseva Talacolo only started playing the sport as a way to support his family?
- Source: The Fiji Times ("Joseva Talacolo has only one reason for playing rugby – his family. Growing up in the interior of Namosi at his Naqarawai Village, Talacolo saw the hardships his parents endured and decided to change his fate.")
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/El Eternauta: segunda parte
- Comment: Realized I'm a bit late in nominating this; requesting a one-day extension as allowed by Wikipedia:Did you know/Guidelines.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:00, 2 August 2024 (UTC).
- BeanieFan11, since we are so behind in reviews that the Nominations page isn't fully transcluding, noting that your QPQ should be done by 9 August, seven days after nomination, with a stretch date to 12 August, seven days from now. Please be sure to get it done by then. Thanks! BlueMoonset (talk) 21:46, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
Malacchi Esdale
- ... that rugby sevens player Malacchi Esdale said the conditioning it took for him to play in the Olympics was "borderline crazy"?
- Source: The News Journal ("'The conditioning that you have to do to prepare yourself for this game is like, it's borderline crazy,' Esdale said.")
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Henry Charles Swan
- Comment: Realized I'm a bit late in nominating this; requesting a one-day extension as allowed by Wikipedia:Did you know/Guidelines.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:45, 2 August 2024 (UTC).
- BeanieFan11, since we are so behind in reviews that the Nominations page isn't fully transcluding, noting that your QPQ should be done by 9 August, seven days after nomination, with a stretch date to 12 August, seven days from now. Please be sure to get it done by then. Thanks! BlueMoonset (talk) 21:48, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
Railways in Canberra
- ... that the city's venerated architects had grand plans for railways in Canberra?
Will Thorpe (talk) 13:11, 1 August 2024 (UTC).
- @Willthorpe: Please supply a QPQ, or this nomination may be closed as unsuccessful. Z1720 (talk) 04:08, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Z1720: Done. Cheers, Will Thorpe (talk) 07:08, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
Robert Aiello
- ... that Robert Aiello's novel got published after literary agents turned it down roughly 60 times?
- Source: Gannon, Joyce (1999-09-14). "Dial M for Money: Former Ketchum Exec Hopes to Cash in With Mystery Book". Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. Archived from the original on 2024-07-25. Retrieved 2024-07-25.
The article notes: "Aiello received about 60 rejection letters from East Coast book agents before he decided to pitch "The Deceivers" directly to small publishers. One of them, Creative Arts Book Co. of Berkeley, Calif., liked his 246-page manuscript and gave Aiello a one-book contract. The novel is scheduled for release later this month in soft cover for $14.95."
Cunard (talk) 12:14, 1 August 2024 (UTC).
Julie Roy (activist)
- ... that Julie Roy was the first woman to successfully sue her therapist for sexual coercion?
- Source: Dictionary of Women Worldwide (https://www.encyclopedia.com/women/dictionaries-thesauruses-pictures-and-press-releases/roy-julie-c-1938): "Became 1st woman to successfully sue psychiatrist for inveigling her into sexual relationship under guise of therapy"
- ALT1: ... that a future high-profile divorce lawyer represented Julie Roy in the first successful lawsuit against a therapist for sexual coercion? Source: Betrayal - https://archive.org/details/betrayaltruestor00free/mode/2up - referred to as "Bob Cohen" through the book, the foreword gives thanks to "Robert Stephan Cohen and Loren H. Plotkin for their support and assistance"
- Reviewed:
- Comment: this is my second DYK nomination. i learned from the mistakes I made the first time, made sure to cite all important claims in the article, waited until the article was properly evaluated to submit the DYK, and will be active in fixing any issues that may arise.
jeschaton (immanentize) 21:29, 30 July 2024 (UTC).
Bikers for Trump
- ... that despite raising over $427,000 in donations from 2021 to 2022, Bikers for Trump was $81,000 in debt by 2023?
- ALT1: ... that Chris Cox, the founder of Bikers for Trump, estimated that 70% of its members are former military? Source: https://www.cnn.com/2016/07/18/politics/bikers-for-trump-cleveland-protests-republican-convention/index.html
- Reviewed:
C F A 💬 20:43, 29 July 2024 (UTC).
Asiatyrannus
- ... that Asiatyrannus is thought to have grown to less than half the size of other tyrannosaurs?
- Source: [1]
LittleLazyLass (Talk | Contributions) 07:40, 27 July 2024 (UTC).
- Starting Review--Kevmin § 19:46, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
Article new enough and long enough. Article writer should be tagged in nomination. Article well cited and sources are reliable, no close paraphrasing identified, with specific name groups/tachnical phrases noted and ignored. Hook verified and cited in article. QPQ done.--Kevmin § 19:02, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- @LittleLazyLass: Please address the above. Z1720 (talk) 00:26, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
References
- ^ Zheng, Wenjie; Jin, Xingsheng; Xie, Junfang; Du, Tianming (2024-07-25). "The first deep-snouted tyrannosaur from Upper Cretaceous Ganzhou City of southeastern China". Scientific Reports. 14 (1). doi:10.1038/s41598-024-66278-5. ISSN 2045-2322.
Glennda and Camille Do Downtown
- ... that according to academic Camille Paglia, her 1993 film Glennda and Camille Do Downtown was banned from multiple LGBT film festivals "for reasons of political incorrectness"?
- Source: Vamps & Tramps: New Essays
- ALT0a: ... that the 1993 documentary short film Glennda and Camille Do Downtown was reportedly banned from multiple LGBT film festivals "for reasons of political incorrectness"? Source: Vamps & Tramps: New Essays
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/The Motherland Calls
Morgan695 (talk) 15:27, 26 July 2024 (UTC).
Mannion v. Coors Brewing Co., Catch of the Day
- ... that in Mannion v. Coors Brewing Co., Judge Lewis A. Kaplan cited Thomas Mangelsen's Catch of the Day as a photograph so original in its timing that it could be copyrightable for that alone?
- Source: "A modern work strikingly original in timing might be Catch of the Day, by noted wildlife photographer Thomas Mangelsen, which depicts a salmon that appears to be jumping into the gaping mouth of a brown bear at Brooks Falls in Katmai National Park, Alaska ... the copyright in Catch of the Day does not protect against subsequent photographs of bears feasting on salmon in the same location. Furthermore, if another photographer were sufficiently skilled and fortunate to capture a salmon at the precise moment that it appeared to enter a hungry bear's mouth — and others have tried, with varying degrees of success ... Mannion v. Coors Brewing Co., 377 F.Supp.2d 444,453 (S.D.N.Y., 2005)
Daniel Case (talk) 04:31, 26 July 2024 (UTC).
Ácido Argentino
- ... that Rolling Stone listed Ácido Argentino as the best album of Argentine heavy metal?
- Source: "Los 40 discos esenciales del metal argentino" [The essential 40 albums of Argentine metal] (in Spanish). Rolling Stone. May 16, 2024. Retrieved July 25, 2024.
Cambalachero (talk) 19:34, 25 July 2024 (UTC).
White bear of Henry III
- ... that in 1253 Henry III of England ordered that his white bear (sculpture pictured) be permitted to swim and hunt in the Thames?
- Source: "they also had to suffer the indignity of one of Henry’s off-hand sets of instructions when he decided that the bear should be capable of providing for itself. The sheriffs were told to create a stout muzzle and chain so that the animal’s Norwegian handler could control the bear when leading him out of the tower down to the River Thames. Also, a long rope to control the bear when he was in the water having a wash and fishing for himself." from: Bibby, Miriam. "King Henry III's Polar Bear". Historic UK. Retrieved 20 July 2024.; the date of Henry's order is given in Stow, John (1733). A Survey of the Cities of London and Westminster, Borough of Southwark, and Parts Adjacent. T. Read. pp. 69–70.
- ALT1: ... that in 1252 Henry III of England was gifted a white bear (sculpture pictured) by Haakon IV of Norway? Source: "Among the many marvels the visitor to London could experience in the 1250s was the “pale” or “white” bear presented to Henry III by King Haakon of Norway." from: Bibby, Miriam. "King Henry III's Polar Bear". Historic UK. Retrieved 20 July 2024. and "the lions were joined by a polar bear in 1252" from: "The Tower of London Menagerie". Historic Royal Palaces. Retrieved 20 July 2024.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Valentin Houinato
Dumelow (talk) 12:32, 25 July 2024 (UTC).
- Hello Dumelow, I'm a first-time DYK reviewer and I'll be reviewing this. It looks interesting so far and I'll give additional comments soon. Nrco0e (talk • contribs) 18:18, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- Article was nominated 5 days after creation, so it passes the newness check.
- Article is exceeds 1,500 bytes, so it passes the minimum length check.
- Sources look reliable. I see that most of them were authored by people who specialize in history, which I presume are qualified and reputable enough for this subject. Earwig shows no obvious plagiarism.
- Background section: I see that ref [1] doesn't have an online link provided. I did a quick search on Google and found this PDF for that ref. I think it's worth adding that PDF's URL to ref [1]. Ref [2] covers most of the content in that section, although I think it should be put next to the second sentence since it doesn't mention anything about 1834.
- Hook only has one link, so the presentability rule does not apply here.
- Hook is adequately cited with sources used in the article.
- Both hooks are interesting. I personally prefer the main hook.
- Images are public domain and are recognizable at low resolution. Captions are descriptive and succinct.
- QPQ has been done by nom.
- There's a few grammatically unclear sentences I would like to point out. Namely:
- From then until 1834 animals were kept in the menageries continuously until 1834 - repetition of 1834.
- Henry was shocked by the expense of keeping the bear so [he] delegated its upkeep to... - add "he"?
- The sheriffs['] allowance of four sous a day - add a possessive apostrophe and wikilink "sous" for the layperson like me?
Other than some issues I've pointed out, the nomination is looking good! Since I'm a new reviewer, I'll have to request a second opinion from another reviewer. Nrco0e (talk • contribs) 19:15, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
Hi Nrco0e, thanks for the review and sorry for delay in getting back to you, I have been away. Good work finding that source online, I've added it and hopefully addressed your other points by improvements to the article - Dumelow (talk) 11:57, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on July 26
[edit]Edmilson Pedro
- ... that Olympian Edmilson Pedro "started practicing judo from the cradle"?
- Source: RFI
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Nicole Chang-Leng
- Comment: Note: this is relying on Google's translation of the French statement "Comecei a praticar judo desde o berço". Requesting a French speaker review this just to make sure it is an accurate translation.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:09, 2 August 2024 (UTC).
- @BeanieFan11: Please supply a QPQ as soon as possible. Z1720 (talk) 04:06, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
Fede Vigevani
- ... that Fede Vigevani (pictured) is the most-subscribed Spanish-speaking YouTuber and has the 49th biggest YouTube channel in the world with over 54 million subscribers?
Sahaib (talk) 13:49, 27 July 2024 (UTC).
Church of St Peter, Draycott
![Font by William Burges](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1c/St_Peters_Church_Draycott_-_font_2.jpg/134px-St_Peters_Church_Draycott_-_font_2.jpg)
- ... that in 2006 the vicar of St Peter's, Draycott tried to sell the font?
- Source: Cite 6 Gavin Stamp, pages 120-122
KJP1 (talk) 05:37, 27 July 2024 (UTC).
There is a very nice image of the font on Commons to which this could be linked, but I don't know how to place it here without messing the page up.Another editor kindly helped out. KJP1 (talk) 06:02, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- Not a review but I'd suggest proposing alternate hooks as the current hook may be confusing to readers. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:25, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- I sort of take the point but, frankly, there is little of interest about the church except the intended font sale. I think, with the link, it is likely to be understood by most readers? KJP1 (talk) 09:27, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- The issue isn't necessarily the hook fact itself but rather the wording's clarity. Readers might not necessarily get what "font" means in this case since when people think of fonts they usually think of written fonts. Maybe:
- ALT0a ... that in 2006 the vicar of St Peter's, Draycott tried to sell the church's baptismal font?
- The problem here is that it might fall afoul of WP:DYKBLP, though I'll leave that issue to the reviewer if that turns out to be an issue. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:40, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- That's very helpful, and I'm fine with expanding font to "church's baptismal font". As for WP:DYKBLP, he did try to sell it, and it did become a Cause célèbre, albeit in the rather rarefied world of Ecclesiastical law. But, as you say, we can see what the reviewer says. KJP1 (talk) 11:56, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- The issue here per DYKBLP is if it is unduly highlighting something negative about a living person. The article doesn't state if Price is still alive or not, but erring on the side of caution I was assuming that he was. Some of our regulars take DYKBLP very seriously and noms have been pulled or even rejected over it. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:36, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- That's very helpful, and I'm fine with expanding font to "church's baptismal font". As for WP:DYKBLP, he did try to sell it, and it did become a Cause célèbre, albeit in the rather rarefied world of Ecclesiastical law. But, as you say, we can see what the reviewer says. KJP1 (talk) 11:56, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- The issue isn't necessarily the hook fact itself but rather the wording's clarity. Readers might not necessarily get what "font" means in this case since when people think of fonts they usually think of written fonts. Maybe:
- I sort of take the point but, frankly, there is little of interest about the church except the intended font sale. I think, with the link, it is likely to be understood by most readers? KJP1 (talk) 09:27, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- Not a review but I'd suggest proposing alternate hooks as the current hook may be confusing to readers. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:25, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
Shapez 2
- ... that Shapez 2 went from a plain white background to outer space? Source: Hardcore Gamer
'''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 04:36, 26 July 2024 (UTC).
- I've added an image on the right, which could be used if ALT1 is promoted. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 04:50, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
Article is new and just barely long enough, by a margin of 17 bytes. Sourcing in the article looks good, and Earwig checks out. Image licensing looks alright as well. I don't love ALT0 (not quite interesting enough and lacks context), and ALT1 is not present in the article. QPQ is not required as nominator has 1 prior DYK nom. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 13:42, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- @PCN02WPS: I'll do some expansion later, so length shouldn't be an issue. I agree that the hooks aren't that good, so what about something like this: ALT2: " ... that unlike its 2D monochrome predecessor, Shapez 2 features 3D conveyer belts in space?" The source for ALT2 is the same Hardcore Gamer article. Alternatively, I could add the information in ALT1 to the article. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 14:20, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- @PCN02WPS: Have your concerns been addressed, and this approved? If not, what else needs to be done? Z1720 (talk) 16:44, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
New reviewer needed unless PCN02WPS returns. Z1720 (talk) 14:41, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
sorry all, haven't spent much sustained time on WP recently. I still don't love this hook; it's set up like "monochrome" is going to be contrasted by something later in the hook (especially given it's linked) but nothing in the hook mentions the second iteration being multicolored at all. ALT2 also has the issue that it's not mentioned in the article as worded in the hook. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 20:42, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- Courtesy ping CanonNi PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 18:35, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- PCN02WPS Thanks for the ping. Yeah... ALT2 isn't that good either. The information in ALT1 is mentioned in the gameplay section, and I could reword it so that it's similar to the hook. Another possible hook (ALT3) could be "... that in later stages of the game Shapez 2, players will need to supply four thousand copies of the same shape every minute?" The source is this RPS review. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 02:08, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on July 27
[edit]Kevin Mejía
- ... that Kevin Mejía was the sole Honduran medalist at both the 2015 and 2023 Pan American Games?
- Source: La Prensa (2015) and La Prensa (2023); also the only medalist listed at Honduras at the 2015 Pan American Games and Honduras at the 2023 Pan American Games
BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:25, 3 August 2024 (UTC).
Article is new. At 1671 characters it just passes the 1500 minimum, although I'm unsure full start class is warranted. The sources will need access-dates.I am unsure about the first couple of sentences, the source does not explicitly say the childhood was spent in Triunfo de la Cruz, and at any rate it does say he left to Tegucigalpa at 13 so he did some growing up there too. "hermanos" also does not mean only brothers, it is used for the group of both genders. Not a DYKcrit, but the fourth sentence should really spell out COH, and there is a disconnect between the lead sentence and the body regarding flag bearer or co-flag bearer. Regarding "bronze medal at the cadet world championships in Hungary", the source says he was in the cadet category, not that cadet was the name of the tournament (after a bit of research, probably the World Junior Wrestling Championships already mentioned in the next paragraph, in the 15-17 category).Haven't checked the other paragraphs, but moving onto the hook, I can't verify the 2015 portion from the source, may be missing it although it appears correct. That said it's not the most interesting hook, is there anything other than an athlete winning medals in the sources? QPQ needed. CMD (talk) 11:08, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- @BeanieFan11: Please address the above and supply a QPQ. Z1720 (talk) 04:05, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
Closing, not ready for DYK. CMD (talk) 12:57, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- Please give me until the end of the day. BeanieFan11 (talk) 13:53, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
Unclosing. CMD (talk) 15:42, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Chipmunkdavis: Apologies for the delay. QPQ is done. I made some changes ([10]), including clarifying COH, changing 'brothers' to 'one of five children', re-wording Triunfo de la Cruz, addressing the 'co' flagbearer, etc. Looking at the source again, I realize that it mentions, through Google Translate, "It is worth remembering that Mejía won the only silver medal in Honduras in the last XVII Pan American Games of Toronto 2015" – which is odd because from what I can find, they only had one medalist that year. Let me know if you'd like me to dig further to find one mentioning him as the 'sole' medalist. I did find that hook kind of interesting, but I can try to find another if you'd like. Thoughts? BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:40, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hmm, more curiously, either you and I both missed this or it's been updated, but his year of birth is currently 1995. Confirmed here by his age, which also notes he was the only Honduran to enter the 2024 Olympics by qualifying, and the specific entry into the 97kg category could be mentioned. Also he has a son, and this source confirms a childhood in Triunfo de la Cruz and has a nice anecdote about selling spinning tops.Regarding the hook, the sources seem to put a lot of emphasis of him being the only qualifying Honduran. That's not too catchy either, but I understand the sports angle, perhaps one or two sports alts and a promoter may pick one. CMD (talk) 07:04, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
Nan Oo Pagoda, Myinsaing
- ... that the Nan Oo Pagoda is classified as a double encased stupa as it envelopes a smaller stupa?
- Source: (Myo Nyunt Aung 2022) is an academic paper. See page 3 for double and triple encased types. See page 9 for the Nan Oo stupa encasing a smaller stupa.
- ALT1: ... that the Nan Oo Pagoda in Myinsaing was built by enveloping an earlier stupa? Source: (Myo Nyunt Aung 2022: 9) and (Tein Taman 2020)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/1964 Summer Olympics medal table
Hybernator (talk) 20:48, 28 July 2024 (UTC).
Henry Bubb
![Henry Bubb in September 1937](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3f/Henry_Bubb_in_September_1937.jpg/125px-Henry_Bubb_in_September_1937.jpg)
- ... that Henry Bubb (pictured) started as a loan clerk before becoming the president of Capitol Federal Savings Bank 15 years later? Source: "Henry A. Bubb". Kansas Business Hall of Fame. Retrieved 2024-07-24.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/United States Holocaust Memorial Museum
- Comment: Thanks for the review!
Bsoyka (t • c • g) 23:51, 27 July 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on July 28
[edit]Nam Su-hyeon, Jeon Hun-young
- ... that Jeon Hun-young and Nam Su-hyeon helped South Korea win its 10th-straight Olympic gold medal in the women's team archery event?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/La Nube & Template:Did you know nominations/Bazaruto Island
BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:55, 4 August 2024 (UTC).
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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- Cited:
- Interesting:
- Other problems:
- I think the hook has an issue with phrasing. Like, didn't Jeong and Nam win gold medals? Saying they "helped South Korea win" kinda seems to downplay their own achievements. I also think there are other potential alternative hooks in these articles, like how young they were when they started archery, or how their team set an Olympic record.
QPQ: - Not done
Overall: The nomination still needs to complete two QPQs and I think the hook needs to be rewritten slightly, and maybe some alternate hooks provided. Ping me when these issues have been seen to and I'd be happy to take another look. --Grnrchst (talk) 10:20, 5 August 2024 (UTC) Grnrchst (talk) 10:20, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- @BeanieFan11: Please complete a QPQ or this nomination may be closed as unsuccessful. Please also address the above. Z1720 (talk) 00:23, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
@BeanieFan11: QPQs were not supplied after a week and a courtesy ping. Per WP:QPQ I am closing this nomination as incomplete. Z1720 (talk) 14:39, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- Could I have till the end of the day? BeanieFan11 (talk) 14:47, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Grnrchst: Apologies for the delay. QPQs are done. I also realized there's the possibility of including Lim Si-hyeon, the third member of the team; however, her article needed to be expanded to about 3,300 bytes to count as 5x expanded (someone else expanded it) and it is currently about 2,700: not sure if including it would somehow be possible. But besides that, two ALTs to re-word would include:
- ALT1 ... that Nam Su-hyeon and Jeon Hun-young winning the gold medal in the women's team archery event at the Olympics marked the 10th-straight time it was won by South Korea?
- ALT2 ... that when Nam Su-hyeon and Jeon Hun-young won gold at the 2024 Olympics in the women's team archery event, it marked the 10th-straight gold in the event for South Korea?
- Would either of those work? Could develop others if necessary. BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:22, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
Center squeeze
![Distribution of winning candidates under RCV, showing a bias towards extremes](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/87/Center_squeeze_grid.png/151px-Center_squeeze_grid.png)
- ... that in Burlington's second election using ranked-choice voting, independent Bob Kiss was elected despite his opponent being preferred by over half the voters?
- Reviewed:
Closed Limelike Curves (talk) 01:11, 3 August 2024 (UTC).
50 YouTubers Fight for $1,000,000
- ... that MrBeast's video "50 YouTubers Fight for $1,000,000" got over 70 million views in 24 hours making it his most viewed video in that time frame?
Sahaib (talk) 12:59, 30 July 2024 (UTC).
J1407b
- ... that the "Super Saturn" exoplanet J1407b might actually turn out to be a free-floating planet or brown dwarf?
- Source: "Issues with the stability of any rings combined with the lack of detection of another eclipse, suggests that J1407b may not be bound to J1407." Mentel, R. T.; et al. (2018). "Constraining the period of the ringed secondary companion to the young star J1407 with photographic plates". Astronomy & Astrophysics.; "...the object we called J1407b is floating freely through the Galaxy, and just happened to pass in front of a very young star." Kenworthy, M. A. J1407b. (2024)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/White bear of Henry III
- Comment: The J1407b article was converted from redirect into article as a result of a split from the V1400 Centauri article. I began slowly expanding V1400 Centauri on 8 July 2024, but I did not add much to the J1407b section until 24 July 2024. As of today, it's been 5 days since I significantly expanded the J1407b section. Also, the image is optional; I'm fine whether it is used or not.
Nrco0e (talk • contribs) 20:21, 29 July 2024 (UTC).
Juan de Casas
- ... that Juan de Casas left the Mantuano creoles out of his planned junta in colonial Venezuela?
- Reviewed:
Mebigrouxboy (talk) 19:40, 29 July 2024 (UTC).
Battle of Tinzaouaten (2024)
- ... that the Battle of Tinzaouaten likely saw the Wagner Group's largest death toll in Mali since its deployment there in 2021?
- Source: Bloomberg
- ALT1: ... that Ukraine's Main Directorate of Intelligence said that it provided Tuareg rebels assistance that enabled their victory in a battle against Wagner Group mercenaries in Mali?
- Source: The Guardian
- Reviewed:
Chomik! (talk?) 17:21, 29 July 2024 (UTC).
- @Chomik: can you pick a hook that's more definitive? "Likely" sounds ambiguous and usually requires attribution.VR (Please ping on reply) 14:07, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Vice regent: most sources agree that this was the Wagner Group's biggest loss in Mali ([11] [12] [13]) but I'm not sure if it would be acceptable to remove the word "likely" since there's no confirmed death toll. If not, I could change the hook to be about Ukraine's involvement. Chomik! (talk?) 14:35, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- If the toll is not confirmed best not to use it as a hook. Ukraine's involvement does sound more interesting.VR (Please ping on reply) 16:17, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Vice regent: added an alt hook about Ukraine. Chomik! (talk?) 17:02, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- It looks good as it is. I would prefer "that Ukraine said it provided Tuareg rebels with assistance in their successful ambush of Wagner Group mercenaries in Mali?" As I said on talk this was more of an ambush. But I think your alt is fine too.VR (Please ping on reply) 22:27, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Vice regent: added an alt hook about Ukraine. Chomik! (talk?) 17:02, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- If the toll is not confirmed best not to use it as a hook. Ukraine's involvement does sound more interesting.VR (Please ping on reply) 16:17, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
Cosmetic Playlover
- ... that Sachi Narashima came up with the idea for the manga Cosmetic Playlover after her friend, who worked as a beauty consultant, mentioned to her that there were male beauty consultants?
- Source: Spoon 2Di vol. 106 (ISBN 978-4048984997): "まんがのネタを考えていた時にBAの友人から「男性の美容部員もいるよ」と考えてもらったことがきっかけです。"
lullabying (talk) 06:22, 29 July 2024 (UTC).
Roy Applequist
- ... that Roy Applequist worked in his father's farm equipment business before founding his own? Source: "Roy Applequist". Kansas Business Hall of Fame. 2010. Retrieved 2024-07-28.
- ALT1: ... that Roy Applequist is in the Kansas Business Hall of Fame? Source: "Roy Applequist". Kansas Business Hall of Fame. 2010. Retrieved 2024-07-28.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Ecco2K
- Comment: Thanks for the review!
Bsoyka (t • c • g) 16:56, 28 July 2024 (UTC).
Patrick J. Hessian
- ... that Patrick J. Hessian (pictured) was one of four alumni of Saint Paul Seminary in St. Paul, Minnesota to become the Chief of Chaplains of the United States Army?
- ALT1: ... that Patrick J. Hessian (pictured), along with Patrick J. Ryan, Francis L. Sampson, and Donald W. Shea, was one four alumni of Saint Paul Seminary to become the Chief of Chaplains of the United States Army? Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20150912110512/http://www.stthomas.edu/media/spssod/pdfs/oracle/2015WinterOracle.pdf https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chief_of_Chaplains_of_the_United_States_Army
- ALT2: ... that Patrick J. Hessian, the 16th Chief of Chaplains of the United States Army, earned the Soldier's Medal for disarming a suicidal soldier who was holding a live grenade with the pin pulled? Source: Coleman, Nick (Sep 14, 2007). "Monsignor was the face of God in war's inferno". Star Tribune. Retrieved 28 July 2024.
- Reviewed:
- Comment: Can individually source each of the chaplain's alumnus status if need be
~Darth StabroTalk/Contribs 04:07, 28 July 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on July 29
[edit]Ban Hyo-jin
- ... that although sport shooter Ban Hyo-jin attended Olympic trials "just to gain some competition experience", she qualified for the Olympics and went on to win a gold medal?
- Source: YNA ("Ban, now 16, entered the Olympic trials just to gain some competition experience. Her initial objective was to compete against some veteran shooters this year and then push for a spot on the national team for the 2025 season. But Ban found herself in the lead after three out of five rounds in the trials. Suddenly, an Olympic spot was within grasp.") / Straits Times ("Compatriot Huang Yuting, however, was denied the same feat by South Korean Ban Hyo-jin, who won the women's competition by beating the Chinese via a shoot-off. Ban also become the youngest female Olympic shooting champion at 16 and the teenaged trio's sparkling form in Paris offered a glimpse into the future of rifle shooting.")
BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:04, 5 August 2024 (UTC).
- @BeanieFan11: Please complete a QPQ or this nomination may be closed as unsuccessful. Z1720 (talk) 00:21, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
Canadian Premier League inaugural match
- ... that the Canadian Premier League inaugural match led to the suspension of both team captains?
- Source: Jacques, John (May 7, 2019). "Kyle Bekker Suspended By Canada Soccer For Di Chiara Incident". Northern Tribune. Archived from the original on July 11, 2024. Retrieved August 2, 2024. Bedakian, Armen (April 27, 2019). "Y9's Brennan consoles Aparicio after historic 1st CPL red card". Canadian Premier League. Archived from the original on July 13, 2024. Retrieved August 2, 2024.
- Reviewed:
I am wordsmyth (talk) 20:24, 2 August 2024 (UTC).
- Will review this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:28, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Overall: Mostly good. Just need a source for the statement
York9 finished sixth in the CPL's spring season and third in the fall season, ending the year third in the overall table.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:36, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- @I am wordsmyth: Please address the above. Z1720 (talk) 19:42, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- @BeanieFan11: Thank you for reviewing. I've now added a citation for that statement. I am wordsmyth (talk) 01:13, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
Auckland Central in the 2020 New Zealand general election
- ... that Chlöe Swarbrick won the race for Auckland Central in the 2020 New Zealand general election, the first time a Green candidate had won an electorate without major party endorsement?
- Source: "The Green MP was still pinching herself today after claiming her party's second-ever electorate seat and the first without a major party endorsement." link
- Reviewed:
TheLoyalOrder (talk) 10:38, 31 July 2024 (UTC).
- Reviewing this. On first look, the "Declined" section has to have a ref. I suppose the "Declared" section does not need a separate ref as those are the same people in the "Results" section but other people may think otherwise. In the "Background" section, the background ref has to have a ref on electoral system. Full review to come later. Howard the Duck (talk) 04:51, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- Kia ora, I have done the things in this comment.TheLoyalOrder (talk) 09:50, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, due to unforeseen personal circumstances, I won't be able to continue the review. Howard the Duck (talk) 17:04, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, I'd be interested in taking over this review if needed @Howard the Duck:. Ornithoptera (talk) 07:28, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- Sure, no worries! Howard the Duck (talk) 11:37, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, I'd be interested in taking over this review if needed @Howard the Duck:. Ornithoptera (talk) 07:28, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, due to unforeseen personal circumstances, I won't be able to continue the review. Howard the Duck (talk) 17:04, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- Kia ora, I have done the things in this comment.TheLoyalOrder (talk) 09:50, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
Homer House
- ... that artist Winslow Homer, who made Homer House (pictured) historic, never lived in it?
- Source: https://www.harvardmagazine.com/2016/06/winslow-homers-early-days "The 1853 Homer House, an Italianate mansion that dominates a hill just above Belmont town center, is open for tours. ... Guided tours highlight the largely untouched original interior architecture, along with the life and early work of the couple’s nephew, Winslow Homer. ... He and his family lived nearby, but in a modest farmhouse (still standing and privately owned)..."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/DI MA-1 Mk. III
- Comment: Open to synonyms for "historic": "consequential"? "significant"? Our tried and true "notable"? Each would work, but have slightly different alternative meanings.
GRuban (talk) 13:26, 30 July 2024 (UTC).
- Alt1 ...that the cupola of Homer House (pictured) is part of a 19th-century cooling system?
- Sources: https://eu.wickedlocal.com/story/belmont-citizen-herald/2015/10/01/this-old-house-renovates/33376213007/ "Richard Trethewey gets a tour of the home’s original plumbing and cupola-- which acted as the cooling system of the 1853 mansion", https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWzSei7_sJ0 (YouTube clip from This Old House programme)
TSventon (talk) 14:39, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
On the article talk page, User:TSventon points out that the article doesn't explicitly back the hook, by which I believe they mean that it doesn't explicitly say "Winslow Homer made Homer House historic". That is true, the sources mostly talk about the house by talking about it in the context of the life of the artist, which I think is the same thing, but if the reviewer disagrees, we can say:
- ALT2 ... that artist Winslow Homer depicted but never lived in Homer House (pictured)?
--GRuban (talk) 14:10, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
Codex Basiliensis A. N. IV. 1
- ... that Codex Basiliensis A. N. IV. 1, a manuscript of the New Testament, was marked with red chalk for it to be used as a page-template for the first published printed edition of the New Testament?
- Source: Scrivener, Frederick Henry Ambrose; Edward Miller (1894). A Plain Introduction to the Criticism of the New Testament. Vol. 1 (4th ed.). London: George Bell & Sons. p. 191.
- Reviewed:
Stephen Walch (talk) 20:00, 29 July 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on July 30
[edit]Queer advocacy in the Israel–Hamas War
- ... that queer pro-Palestinian protesters faced off against the 2024 Philadelphia Pride drumline?
- ALT1: ... that pro-Palestinian queer groups have been alternatively called "chickens for KFC" or as fighting against pinkwashing? Source: https://www.them.us/story/lgbtq-solidarity-palestine-saed-atshan
- ALT2: ... that Dyke marches during 2024 have called out conflicts in Palestine, Congo, Ethiopia, Haiti, Myanmar, Sudan and Ukraine? Source: https://truthout.org/articles/queer-activists-are-making-bds-a-key-question-of-pride-this-year/
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Bluethricecreamman (talk) 05:18, 5 August 2024 (UTC).
- Not a review, but ALT1 is the best hook here, and would be better if it was truncated at "KFC".--Launchballer 21:09, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- I don't agree, it comes off as unduly promoting one side without covering the opposing perspective. Although it is usually not be possible to give all context in a dyk, one should at least attempt not to be one-sided. Part of the problem is that the article never really covers the central reason for the protests. It does cover disputes about the status of LGBT Palestinians but not the overall war/genocide that is generating the protest to begin with. (t · c) buidhe 05:04, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- Alright. I put in an excerpt template to the war protest article and used that to populate a background. There might be a better way to include the context of what folks are protesting. Much of the news coverage for queers for palestine remains focused on the spectacle instead of actual purpose and intent, unfortunately, which makes it hard to include motives without going to broader protests. Feel free to suggest/do something different! Bluethricecreamman (talk) 06:17, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
1990 Serbian general election
- ... that the 1990 Serbian general election elected only two women to the National Assembly of Serbia? Source: Stokić, Ljubiša B. (1994). Demokratija i osvajanje vlasti: izbori u Srbiji 1990 [Democracy and the conquest of power: the elections in Serbia in 1990] (in Serbian). Belgrade: Zenit. p. 624. ISBN 86-81987-06-2.
- ALT1: ... that in the 1990 Serbian general election the Socialist Party of Serbia won 78% of seats despite only winning 48% of the popular vote? Source: Martinov, Zlatoje (2000). U podnožju demokratskih propileja: Izbori u Srbiji, 1990–2000 [At the pedestal of the democratic propylaea: Elections in Serbia, 1990–2000] (in Serbian). Belgrade: Republika. p. 26. OCLC 50410508.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/1978 Gilbertese Chief Minister election
- Comment: The only issue that might pop up in this DYK nomination is the timespan of the expansion. I began expanding the article on 8 July when it was at 22k. Now, on 30 July, the article is at 177k. The article met the 5x criteria on 15 July, when it reached 112k, but was not finished. If this is really strict, I won't have any problems with the DYK being rejected now, considering that the article is up for GAN so I'll re-nominate it for DYK once it passes the GA review sometime in the future.
Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 12:55, 30 July 2024 (UTC).
Apple (song)
- ... that a viral dance for Charli XCX's "Apple", in which performers mimic driving a car, was performed by #Amishtiktok content creators? Source: https://www.theguardian.com/music/article/2024/jul/28/apple-dance-charli-xcx-brat-tiktok
Launchballer 10:33, 30 July 2024 (UTC).
- I can't escape this damn album... well let me review what you've got :)
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- I know many Amish families famously disavow all modern forms of technology (though as with any religion there is internal diversity), so there is potential here. However, some tweaking can be done, removing a couple of unnecessary information. Do we need to specify the title of the song, or the platform where the dance went viral? Wrt the article itself, I have some concerns - what makes neonmusic.com, Resident Advisor, and Whynow RS? Furthermore, the article uses two student newspapers. Once these are addressed, I will be glad to look at the hook again. Elias / PSA 🏕️🪐 [please make some noise] 05:44, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- Neonmusic has a proper editorial structure in place, so I'm inclined to trust it. The rest are all attributed opinion. (Whynow and Resident Advisor don't put theirs on their website, however google tells me they both have editors.) Student media "can sometimes be considered reliable on other topics". ALT0a: ... that a viral dance in which performers mimic driving a car was performed by Amish content creators?--Launchballer 07:04, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer, RSSM also says that "professional sources are typically preferred when available." Surely given the big cultural moment Brat is going through, there are more reliable, professional reviews you can use to replace those student publications. Wrt hook, I would highlight that it was a viral dance from the Internet: perhaps ALT0b: ...that some of the many participants of a recent Internet dance challenge were Amish people? Elias / PSA 🏕️🪐 [please make some noise] 08:00, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- I don't agree that existence of other coverage has any bearing on whether the student publications should be included. For what they're being used for, i.e. attributed opinion, they're fine. You're right that there is lots of extra coverage of Brat, however Apple wasn't released as a single until very recently and all of the critical reception predates the song going viral, so there's much less of it than you'd think. Surprisingly few critics mentioned it as a highlight. (Much of the coverage went on some of the tracks that actually were singles; most of the hits for ""charli xcx" brat review apple" include phrases like "Apple Music" and "Fiona Apple".) I've added one more WP:EXPERTSPS which I missed when I looked the first time. (You'd need a second reviewer for ALT0b as neither of my hooks mention when the track was released, and I'm tempted to ask them about this as well.)--Launchballer 08:36, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- I see @Ss112: has removed the student reviews. I don't agree with their removal, but I don't feel strongly enough to put them back.--Launchballer 05:17, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- @PSA: Does the above address your concerns, and is this approved? If not, what else needs to be done? Z1720 (talk) 19:40, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- I see @Ss112: has removed the student reviews. I don't agree with their removal, but I don't feel strongly enough to put them back.--Launchballer 05:17, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- I don't agree that existence of other coverage has any bearing on whether the student publications should be included. For what they're being used for, i.e. attributed opinion, they're fine. You're right that there is lots of extra coverage of Brat, however Apple wasn't released as a single until very recently and all of the critical reception predates the song going viral, so there's much less of it than you'd think. Surprisingly few critics mentioned it as a highlight. (Much of the coverage went on some of the tracks that actually were singles; most of the hits for ""charli xcx" brat review apple" include phrases like "Apple Music" and "Fiona Apple".) I've added one more WP:EXPERTSPS which I missed when I looked the first time. (You'd need a second reviewer for ALT0b as neither of my hooks mention when the track was released, and I'm tempted to ask them about this as well.)--Launchballer 08:36, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer, RSSM also says that "professional sources are typically preferred when available." Surely given the big cultural moment Brat is going through, there are more reliable, professional reviews you can use to replace those student publications. Wrt hook, I would highlight that it was a viral dance from the Internet: perhaps ALT0b: ...that some of the many participants of a recent Internet dance challenge were Amish people? Elias / PSA 🏕️🪐 [please make some noise] 08:00, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- Neonmusic has a proper editorial structure in place, so I'm inclined to trust it. The rest are all attributed opinion. (Whynow and Resident Advisor don't put theirs on their website, however google tells me they both have editors.) Student media "can sometimes be considered reliable on other topics". ALT0a: ... that a viral dance in which performers mimic driving a car was performed by Amish content creators?--Launchballer 07:04, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on July 31
[edit]Teodoro Asedillo
- ... that a former policeman and teacher became a labor leader?
- Source: PSSR (in Filipino)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Owha
- Comment: Gained permission from NyanThousand in his talk page.
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗
04:33, 5 August 2024 (UTC).
- Can I propose an alt? Something like "... that a former teacher in the Philippines became a Robin Hood-like outlaw?" since I think that was what he's best known for. NyanThousand (talk) 07:19, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- In DYK, anyone can propose an alt, and your alt seems more interesting, im going to accept it.
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗
08:27, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- In DYK, anyone can propose an alt, and your alt seems more interesting, im going to accept it.
Yahya Al Ghotany
- ... that Olympic taekwondo practitioner Yahya Al Ghotany learned the sport "by chance" at a refugee camp?
- Source: The Korea Times ("he and his family have been sheltering in the Azraq refugee camp ... It was there where he, the first in a family of seven children, discovered taekwondo 'by chance.' His friend at the camp told him about the taekwondo course offered by the Taekwondo Humanitarian Foundation (THF) in 2016. That is how he got into the sport, without knowing it would completely change his life.")
BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:16, 31 July 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: review ongoing; Given that from the sources you know his age at a point in time, you may want to use the template that allows you to identify his birth year range (and age range I believe) within the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:7000:2101:AA00:EDD1:6EEC:9F54:77B2 (talk) 7:26, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- @BeanieFan11: Please address the above and provide the QPQ. Z1720 (talk) 00:31, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
@BeanieFan11: This nomination has been open for more than a week and a QPQ has not been supplied. The review indicated that a QPQ was necessary, and I sent a ping two days ago; the editor has been editing on other pages but has not supplied the QPQ. Per WP:QPQ, I am marking this nomination for closure. Z1720 (talk) 04:01, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- I'll make sure to get it done later today. BeanieFan11 (talk) 12:28, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- @2603:7000:2101:AA00:EDD1:6EEC:9F54:77B2: Apologies for the delay. QPQ added. It seems someone else did the age part. BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:51, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- I'll make sure to get it done later today. BeanieFan11 (talk) 12:28, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 1
[edit]Rabbinic period
![Ruins of the ancient synagogue at Kfar Bar'am](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/Ruins_of_the_Ancient_Synagogue_at_Bar%27am.jpg/140px-Ruins_of_the_Ancient_Synagogue_at_Bar%27am.jpg)
- ... that during most of the Rabbinic period, starting in the aftermath of the Bar Kokhba revolt, the center of Jewish life in the Eastern Mediterranean shifted from the now-destroyed Judea to the Galilee?
- Source: Aharon Openheimer, Rebuilding the Jewish Community in the Galilee, in Z. Baras, S. Safrai, M. Stern, Y. Tsafrir (editors), Eretz Israel from the destruction of the Second Temple to the Muslim Conquest, volume one, Jerusalem : Yad Ben Zvi, 1982, ISBN 9652170062 (Hebrew), pages 75-92.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations
Dovidroth (talk) 10:17, 7 August 2024 (UTC).
Rachel Scott (journalist)
- ... that Rachel Scott of ABC News won the first-ever News and Documentary Emmy Award for Outstanding Emerging Journalist?
- ALT1: ... that Rachel Scott reported live during the January 6 United States Capitol attack in her first week as ABC News' White House correspondent?
- ALT2: ... that Rachel Scott interviewed Donald Trump at a National Association of Black Journalists event after covering the attempted assassination earlier in the month?
- Reviewed:
C F A 💬 23:18, 6 August 2024 (UTC).
Kayangan Lake
- ... that Kayangan Lake, located in Coron Island, is regarded as the cleanest lake in Asia?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Oedipus (opera)
- Comment: Gained permission to nom this by DarkNight0917.
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗
04:41, 5 August 2024 (UTC).
I will do a full review of this later, but for now my main concern is the hook. The claim of it being the cleanest lake in Asia is an exceptional claim, so per WP:DYKHOOK and WP:EXCEPTIONAL would require exceptional sourcing. Right now the article uses The Straits Times as the source for the fact: it is yellow on WP:RSP, which generally means it is to be used with caution on Wikipedia, and its suitability is a case-by-case thing. In this case, it may not be completely safe for it to be what supports the source. Either more independent or stronger sourcing should be found, or a different hook be proposed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:43, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- Okay, propose this one: ALT1:... that a tribe performed rituals in a lake to let outsiders use it? Source:TST this hook uses the Straits times, let me know if it's okay or not.
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗
12:36, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
Zero-emission zone in Oxford
- ... that buses in Oxford accounted for as much as 80% of pollution in the city centre?
- Source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-25557090 "The LEZ [low emission zone] will only apply to buses which account for up 80% of the pollution in the city centre"
- Reviewed:
- Comment: Should be good as this article is just above 1500 characters. My third article.
JuniperChill (talk) 08:57, 2 August 2024 (UTC).
- Not a review, but there was an excellent piece in Roads.org.uk that talks about this. I'll leave it to you to decide whether he constitutes an WP:EXPERTSPS or not.--Launchballer 09:45, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- Ah yes, I never thought about reading that article. It's very useful for readers. I have heard of roads.org.uk but never thought about them publishing a ZEZ article. JuniperChill (talk) 11:43, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- You might want to do something about the unsourced content in this. (I don't plan on reviewing this any time soon as I review oldest first, but I might pop in and expand it once I've finished the stuff on my to-do list.)--Launchballer 12:16, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
@JuniperChill: Not a full review, but I have tagged the article with two "citation needed" tags. These need to be resolved before this nomination can be approved. Z1720 (talk) 03:54, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Z1720: I added two references to replace the {{cn}}. Should be good JuniperChill (talk) 09:38, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- You might want to do something about the unsourced content in this. (I don't plan on reviewing this any time soon as I review oldest first, but I might pop in and expand it once I've finished the stuff on my to-do list.)--Launchballer 12:16, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
Yellow River Delta National Nature Reserve
- ... that the management zoning of the Yellow River Delta National Nature Reserve was partially designed around the needs of the Shengli Oil Field? Source: This condition may reflect the fact that the functional zoning map of the YRDNR represents a trade-off between wetland habitat protection and oil field development
CMD (talk) 14:43, 1 August 2024 (UTC). Note: Edited into a multi-nom, 2 QPQs included. CMD (talk) 11:23, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 2
[edit]Winzar Kakiouea
- ... that Winzar Kakiouea was the sole athlete from his nation at the 2024 Olympics?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/pending
- Comment: Apologies for being a day late. Hoping for a one-day extension as per Wikipedia:Did you know/Guidelines:
The seven-day limit can be extended for a day or two upon request.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 03:38, 10 August 2024 (UTC).
- @BeanieFan11: Please provide a QPQ or this may be closed as incomplete. Z1720 (talk) 19:35, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Extension requested in nomination notes. Per above, QPQ needs to be completed before this can go forward. New enough (with request), long enough, sourced and neutral. No other glaring issues that I can note. Earwig notes copyvio, but it is quoted and attributed. Ornithoptera (talk) 22:38, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
Ani ni Aisaresugite Komattemasu
- ... that the creator of the manga series Ani ni Aisaresugite Komattemasu made the main characters realize they were not blood-related siblings early in the story so that she could focus on their romance?
- ALT1: ... that the creator of the manga series Ani ni Aisaresugite Komattemasu felt the only way she could give the main characters a "happy ending" was for them to not be blood-related siblings? Source: https://natalie.mu/comic/pp/sho-comi50th_01
- ALT2: ... that the creator of the manga series Ani ni Aisaresugite Komattemasu named a character after an original character that appeared in the live-action adaptations? Source: https://natalie.mu/comic/pp/sho-comi50th_01
- ALT3: ... that the creator of the manga series Ani ni Aisaresugite Komattemasu owed the fast pace of the series to the semi-monthly release schedule of Sho-Comi? Source: https://natalie.mu/comic/pp/sho-comi50th_01
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Ai Uta
lullabying (talk) 09:45, 4 August 2024 (UTC).
Bangué
- ... that Bangué, the smallest island of the Bazaruto Archipelago, was formed due to the archipelago itself?
- Source: Everett, B. I.; Van der Elst, R. P.; Schleyer, M. H., eds. "Geomorphology and the Terrestrial and Oceanographic Setting". in Everett, B. I.; Van der Elst, R. P.; Schleyer, M. H., eds. (2008). A Natural History of the Bazaruto Archipelago, Mozambique (PDF). Durban: South African Association for Marine Biological Research. ISBN 9780869890820.
Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 16:44, 2 August 2024 (UTC).
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- I would recommend the hook be reworded since it is a bit confusing in my view.
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Overall: New enough, long enough, plagiarism free, QPQ is completed. I believe that the hook is interesting, but could use a reword. I am presuming that the source for the hook is from the section pertaining to the wave action causing the island to emerge? I'm spitballing here, but "arisen through wave action" could possibly be something interesting to be used as a hook. Ornithoptera (talk) 01:46, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Generalissima: Please address the above. Z1720 (talk) 04:14, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
Marking for closure: Generalissima has not addressed concerns. Z1720 (talk) 19:34, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Z1720: May I have an hour or two to address these concerns? I was rather busy and forgot about this. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 19:35, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Ornithoptera: Fair enough! How about ALT1: that Bangué, the smallest island of the Bazaruto Archipelago, was formed by ocean waves shaped by the surrounding archipelago? Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 19:37, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 3
[edit]Asik-Asik Falls
- ... that the Asik-Asik Falls (pictured) were accidentally discovered?
- Source: INQUIRER
- ALT1: ... that the Asik-Asik Falls (pictured) became viral after its discovery? Source: INQUIRER-2
- ALT2: ... that a picture of the Asik-Asik Falls (pictured) won a picture contest? Source: INQUIRER-2
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Kimi wa Bara yori Utsukushī
- Comment: Accepted by the author.
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗
09:05, 6 August 2024 (UTC).
- Here are some more alt hooks:
- ALT3: ... that you can't see what feeds the Asik-Asik Falls (pictured)? Source: INQUIRER-2
- ALT4: ... the Asik-Asik Falls (pictured) aren't fed by a visible source? Source: INQUIRER-2
These are kind of what the falls are really known for, so I think that these would be more interesting. - DarkNight0917 (talk / contr) 23:57, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
Republic Drug Store
- ... that the Republic Drug Store (building pictured) was formed from the consolidation of an estate and its competition?
- Source: (REF 2) Washington State Dept. of Archaeology & Historic Preservation "Slagle house" article 4th & 5th Paragraphs. "In 1904 he was sent to Republic ... to liquidate a drugstore that made up part of an estate"
- ALT1: ... that the Republic Drug Store (building pictured) was thought to be Washington state's oldest continually family run drugstore in 2003? Source: Source: Craig, J. (June 24, 2003). "Forecast calls for keen observer". The Spokesman-Review. Vol. 121, no. 14. p. B6. "...its believed to be the oldest drugstore in continuous family ownership in Washington..."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Scybalium fungiforme
- Comment: While the "Slagle house" article is in wordpress, it was published by an official part of the Washington State government, the Department of Archaeology & Historic Preservation and thus fulfils notability criteria. The information is also found in the Washington SP Slagle, Jesse W. & Elizabeth, House article of the National Register of Historic Places; Sect 8 page 3
Kevmin § 23:38, 3 August 2024 (UTC).
A. I. Namm & Son Department Store
- ... that an annex to the A. I. Namm & Son Department Store included artifacts from a church? Source: "Namm Store Opens Golden Jubilee Year Tomorrow". The Standard Union. January 29, 1926. p. 2.
- ALT1: ... that the A. I. Namm & Son Department Store was once described as one of the United States' largest cash-only department stores? Source: A. I. Namm & Son Department Store (PDF) (Report). New York City Landmarks Preservation Commission. March 15, 2005. p. 3
- ALT2: ... that although the A. I. Namm & Son Department Store was Brooklyn's third-largest department store in the 1950s, it was closed by the end of the decade? Source: "Namm's Marks 75th Year; Brooklyn Store Continues a Family Tradition". The New York Times. January 10, 1951; Eichelbaum, Fred (March 4, 1957). "Namm Loeser's Sale Total Put At $1½ Million: Bargain Hunters Lured". Women's Wear Daily. Vol. 94, no. 43. p. 3.
- ALT3: ... that it took five weeks to construct the frame of an annex to the A. I. Namm & Son Department Store? Source: "Namm's New Building Making Great Progress". The Standard Union.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/McLaren MCL60
- Comment: Any hook suggestions are much appreciated.
Epicgenius (talk) 20:35, 3 August 2024 (UTC).
Reed Timmer
- ... that storm chaser Reed Timmer feared thunder and lightning at a young age? Source: MLive, Moore Monthly
- ALT1: ... that storm chaser Reed Timmer presented weather forecasts at his high school in Grand Rapids, Michigan? Source: MLive
- ALT2: ... that storm chaser Reed Timmer was often bullied in school at a young age after taking an interest in weather and insects? Source: MLive
- ALT3: ... that storm chaser Reed Timmer constructed the storm chasing vehicle Dominator 1 (pictured), as part of the SRV Dominator vehicle series, from a Chevrolet SUV for use in the TV series Storm Chasers? Source: The Wall Street Journal, Arlington Cardinal
- ALT4: ... that storm chaser Reed Timmer frequently drives more than 50,000 miles (80,000 km) a year to intercept severe thunderstorms? Source: Men’s Journal
- ALT5: ... that storm chaser Reed Timmer chased an EF2 tornado with his mother as part of a Mother's Day gift? Source: Asbury Park Press
- ALT6: ... that storm chaser Reed Timmer popularized the term "gorilla hail" after experiencing large hail? Source: Grunge.com, Associated Press
- ALT7: ... that storm chaser Reed Timmer has a dog named Gizmo accompany him often on storm chases? Source: AccuWeather
- ALT8: ... that storm chaser Reed Timmer recalled seeing "cows flying through the air" while chasing a tornado in Wyoming in 2018? Source: AccuWeather
- ALT9: ... that while chasing an EF2 tornado in Nebraska, storm chaser Reed Timmer and a photographer suffered lacerations after a window blew out inside the vehicle they were in? Source: MLive, AccuWeather
- ALT10: ... that Reed Timmer's video of a photogenic EF2 tornado in Wyoming went viral, garnering nearly 43 million views as of May 2021? Source: The Washington Post, AccuWeather, Newsweek
- Reviewed:
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QPQ coming soon!Template:Did you know nominations/Poetry for Neanderthals
~ Tails Wx 16:09, 3 August 2024 (UTC).
- @Tails Wx: Please supply a QPQ, or this nomination may be closed as unsuccessful. Z1720 (talk) 04:13, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- I'll provide one at the end of the weekend; I've been quite busy for a bit recently. ~ Tails Wx 02:55, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
MV Don Claudio
- ... that a ferry saved 26 people from the MV Doña Paz after seeing a ball of fire?
- Source: UPI
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Sitting Bull and Buffalo Bill
- Comment: Will do the QPQ after the review.
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗
06:44, 3 August 2024 (UTC).
- Comment only: the hook appears to be saying that the ferry saw the fire. Surely, you mean that someone aboard the ferry saw the fire? Schwede66 02:22, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- The article says the officers and captain saw the fire, probably making it the ferry itself?
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗
03:51, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- The article says the officers and captain saw the fire, probably making it the ferry itself?
Articles created/expanded on August 4
[edit]Laurence Patrick Lee
- ... that New Zealand mathematician Laurence Patrick Lee worked his way to England to find a cure for his stammer and was speaking normally after just 18 minutes of instruction?
- Source: "N.Z. Man Cured Of Stammering By British 'Expert' ", Greymouth Evening Star, 11 Dec 1950, [N.Z.P.A. SPECIAL CORRESPONDENT], "When Mr L. P. Lee [...] read in a Jersey newspaper that Mr William C. Kerr, M.A., of St Helier, had discovered a cure for stammering he decided to get a year's leave of absence from the Lands and Survey Department and to work his way to England. ¶ Lee had been stammering all his life and he felt that Mr Kerr could help him. He worked as engineer’s steward in the Trojan Star, arrived in England on November 13 and 18 minutes after seeing Mr Kerr on November 18 he was speaking normally. ¶ Recorded Proof ¶ Mr Kerr took a recording of Lee stammering the date and time before instructing him. He took a second recording 18 minutes later with Lee now stating the date and time without stammering.
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- Comment: Alternate hooks could talk about his map projections (and could include map pictures, if a picture is needed), but this story seemed like a better human interest hook.
–jacobolus (t) 00:23, 12 August 2024 (UTC).
East Timorese civil war
- ... that upon winning a civil war in Portuguese Timor, the Fretilin party repeatedly requested that Portuguese authorities return? Source: page 46: Fretilin continued to recognise Portuguese sovereignty over Timor-Leste, and repeatedly called on the Portuguese administration to return from Ataúro
- ALT1: ... that the UDT and Fretilin political parties of Portuguese Timor fought a civil war in the same year they had earlier formed a unified political coalition? Source: see year 1975
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Kevin Mejía
- Comment: Additional hook ideas welcome!
CMD (talk) 14:00, 4 August 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on August 5
[edit]Rico Krieger
- ... that German national Rico Krieger was likely forced by the KGB to lie in a state-televised plead titled "Confession of a German terrorist"? (Source)
- ALT1: ... that despite being the first foreigner to be charged as a mercenary in Belarus, Rico Krieger was likely never a member of the Kastuś Kalinoŭski Regiment? (Source 1 and Source 2)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Sacred Heart Cathedral, Kaifeng
Johnson524 05:31, 10 August 2024 (UTC).
Joanna Ferrone
- ... that Joanna Ferrone served as the business manager for the fictional character Fido Dido?
- Source: "For Ms. Ferrone, 39, serving as Fido's business manager has been a chance to do something that had more to do with my feelings about my life, she said. I was looking for something that would be more fun and more creative and that would put out a healthy, positive message." Freitag, Michael (3 September 1989). "STYLEMAKERS; Susan Rose and Joanna Ferrone - Entrepreneurs". The New York Times. Archived from the original on 7 November 2020. Retrieved 5 August 2024.
- Reviewed: Winzar Kakiouea
- Comment: Thank you in advance to the review!
I'll be working on the QPQ later today!
Ornithoptera (talk) 01:34, 10 August 2024 (UTC).
- @Ornithoptera: Please provide a QPQ, or this nomination may be closed as incomplete. Z1720 (talk) 19:32, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Z1720: Thank you for the reminder, it got busy these past few days so I was unable to do so. Just completed the QPQ on my end! Ornithoptera (talk) 22:44, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
Maita Sanchez
- ... that before entering politics, Girlie Ejercito, also known as Maita Sanchez, had a career in acting and later served as the mayor of Pagsanjan, Laguna, for nine years? Source: https://www.pep.ph/pepalerts/cabinet-files/161169/er-ejercito-girlie-ejercito-mayor-laguna-a734-20211005
- Reviewed:
Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 12:34, 9 August 2024 (UTC).
- The current hook is wordy and difficult to read, so here's a reword:
- ALT1 ... that Maita Sanchez, who served as mayor of Pagsanjan, Laguna from 2010 to 2019, had an acting career before entering politics?
- Given how it's not that uncommon for actors to become politicians (and the Philippines has many, many examples of this), I will leave it to another editor to see if the fact meets WP:DYKINT. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:46, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
One Room Angel
- ... that One Room Angel was a remake of Tomarigi, a short story Harada had drawn earlier in their career?
- ALT1: ... that Shouta Aoi, who had played the angel in the audio drama of One Room Angel, also performed the theme song to its live-action television drama adaptation? Source: https://natalie.mu/comic/news/543743
- ALT2: ... that Avu-chan, a close friend of Harada's, composed the theme song for the live-action television drama adaptation of Harada's manga, One Room Angel? Source: https://natalie.mu/comic/news/543743
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Leak 04-13 (Bait Ones)
lullabying (talk) 05:49, 9 August 2024 (UTC).
Full review is to follow, but before doing so, I would suggest dropping ALT1 and ALT2 because both of them are rather specialist hooks that may require knowledge of Japanese media. The first hook is probably the only suitable option among the three as currently written, but it needs to be rephrased since it isn't clear that "Harada" is in fact the mangaka (after all, Harada is a common Japanese surname). My suggestion would be to change "Harada" to "its artist" since DYK hooks generally should avoid mentioning names of people without articles by name unless necessary. I'd also like to see other additional hook suggestions as while ALT0 is okayish, it's not the best out there and doesn't really scream "hooky". Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:49, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- ALT0a: ... that One Room Angel was a remake of Tomarigi, a short story that the original creator had drawn earlier in their career?
- ALT1a: ... that Shouta Aoi, who had portrayed a character in the audio drama of One Room Angel, also performed the theme song to its live-action television drama adaptation?
- ALT2a: ... that Queen Bee vocalist Avu-chan was a close friend of the creator of One Room Angel and wrote the theme song for its live-action drama adaptation?
- Here are other suggestions! lullabying (talk) 01:48, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
Liberalism in the Philippines
- ... that liberalism in the Philippines was mostly used during revolutions?
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗
04:36, 7 August 2024 (UTC).
Abortion in Senegal
- ... that Senegal, where abortion is illegal, is known as a "pioneer" of post-abortion care?
- Source: [16] Suh explores how anxieties about the MVA kit's capacity to induce abortion, which is illegal in Senegal, have constrained its integration into routine care. Dubbed the "PAC pioneer of West Africa," Senegal is celebrated for having been among the first countries to decentralize post-abortion care from large urban hospitals to smaller facilities in rural areas.
— Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 16:35, 6 August 2024 (UTC).
- I have included this article in a multi-article DYK nom with two other articles. I would prefer the hook at Template:Did you know nominations/Abortion in Africa. If this individual hook is approved, I can remove Senegal from that one. — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 17:15, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
Sienna Green
- ... that at 193 centimetres (6 ft 4 in) tall, Australian Olympic water polo player Sienna Green is the tallest person in her family?
- Reviewed: National Hospital Service Reserve
- Comment: Nominated on behalf of an IP editor who will (as usual) provide the QPQ.
Schwede66 11:06, 6 August 2024 (UTC).
- Update: QPQ now added (just so that it doesn't get overlooked). Schwede66 23:47, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
Sugar Dog Life
- ... that the author of Sugar Dog Life made one of the main characters a police officer so that there could be a height difference?
- ALT1: ... that the author of Sugar Dog Life ended up buying and raising cacti after drawing it in the manga? Source: https://www.chil-chil.net/compNewsDetail/k/801authors108/no/22809/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Choco Togo
lullabying (talk) 04:30, 6 August 2024 (UTC).
CyberJoly Drim
- ... that an early Polish cyberpunk short story, "CyberJoly Drim" from 1998, aroused a significant controversy in the Polish sf and fantasy community? Source: https://ejournals.eu/pliki_artykulu_czasopisma/pelny_tekst/3d32c44d-af77-4c7d-9404-a10a190a3a2c/pobierz
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:49, 5 August 2024 (UTC).
Meteorological history of Cyclone Freddy
- ... that Cyclone Freddy (track pictured) in 2023 was the longest-lasting tropical cyclone worldwide?
HurricaneEdgar 04:26, 5 August 2024 (UTC).
Allison Reese
- ... that Allison Reese has been called "better at Kamala than Kamala is"? Source: Holtermann, Callie (2024-07-22). "A Kamala Harris Impersonator Is Ready for Her Moment". The New York Times. ISSN 0362-4331. Retrieved 2024-08-04.
"You're better at Kamala than Kamala is," a commenter wrote on one of her videos.
- ALT1: ... that comedian Allison Reese came out to her parents through a group text message? Source: Rodriguez, Alexander (2023-11-19). "Allison Reese is a Comedic Star on the Rise". Metrosource. ISSN 1529-935X. Retrieved 2024-08-04.
So, I just sent a group text. I was just like, "Hey, think I'm gay. That cool?" Several minutes went by and I was like, oh God. And my dad finally responded, "Yep, you're good." And that's truly it. And my mom called and was like, "Hey, I know you're doing comedy. Is that like a joke?" I was like, no, it's real. And she's like, "Okay!"
- ALT2: ... that Allison Reese has received millions of views on social media for her impressions of Kamala Harris? Source: Burnett, Erin (2024-08-03). "Meet comedian who went viral for her impression of Kamala Harris". Erin Burnett OutFront (Television production). CNN. 0:22. Retrieved 2024-08-04.
Her impressions of Harris have lit up social media, a few getting millions of views.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Alex Thach
- Comment: Thanks for reviewing! Definitely open to more hooks here, but I think ALT0 is the most intriguing one I can make.
- ALT1: ... that comedian Allison Reese came out to her parents through a group text message? Source: Rodriguez, Alexander (2023-11-19). "Allison Reese is a Comedic Star on the Rise". Metrosource. ISSN 1529-935X. Retrieved 2024-08-04.
Bsoyka (t • c • g) 03:23, 5 August 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on August 6
[edit]Statue of Yakushi Nyorai (Jingo-ji)
- ... that an 8th century wood sculpture of the Medicine Buddha never left its temple grounds until July 2024 to commemorate the 1200th anniversary of the temple's founding in Tokyo?
- ALT1: ... that to commemorate the founding of Shingon Buddhism, an image of Bhaisajyaguru, the Medicine Buddha, left its temple for the first time in over 1200 years to be on special exhibit? Source: https://www.tnm.jp/modules/r_free_page/index.php?id=2649
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Perugia's limia
NeverBeGameOver (talk) 14:56, 13 August 2024 (UTC).
Alexina Kublu
- ... that scholar, translator, Languages Commissioner, and first justice of the peace in Nunavut Alexina Kublu is her grandmother's father and her daughter's son?
- Source: First Justice of the Peace Source: [https://transreads.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/2021-07-23_60fa0ef1b4064_InuitStoriesofBeingandRebirthGenderShamanismandtheThirdSexbyDAnglureBernardSaladinz-lib.org_.pdf "Gifted with a striking personality, Kublu was
appointed the first justice of the peace in Nunavut."] Saladin d'Anglure, Bernard; Frost, Peter; Lévi-Strauss, Claude (2018). Inuit stories of being and rebirth: gender, shamanism, and the third sex (PDF). Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada: University of Manitoba Press. ISBN 978-0-88755-830-6. Retrieved 7 August 2024. Page 324.
Kinship source: "Kublu started life as an old man because she is her own great grandfather’. She explains: I am my paniq’s atatukulu. My paniq’s my grandmother . . . My grandmother is my paniq, which is daughter. I’m her atatukulu because I’m named after her stepfather. Her biological father was lost out at sea when she was a baby . . . The only father she knew was Kublu and so to her . . . he was her father. My younger daughter calls me inni (son), and I in turn, call her atatta (father). But first of all, I was always going to be Kublu because my atiq died before I was born . . . . My mother’s midwife . . . the first person who held me . . . told my mother that she wanted her son (Kublu) to live with her . . . my mother by name (told) my mother by birth that she wanted . . . to have her son living with her. So that’s how I became Kublu. (Alia 2005: 252) That tangled constellation of identities is virtually impossible for an outsider to comprehend." Alia, Valerie; Bull, Simone (2005). Media and Ethnic Minorities. Edinburgh University Press. pp. 100–101. ISBN 978-0-7486-2068-5. Retrieved 10 August 2024.- Reviewed: Jeffrey Veregge
- Comment: This is a complicated one, and a meaty article at that. I thank any reviewer well for their time and patience. This DYK is tied in with the concept of atiq or atiapik, this article by the Inuit Art Foundation explains the concept quite well.
To explain, as in the article, Inuit namesakes traditionally become the person they are named after. Kublu is named after her grandmother's stepfather and thus became the elder Kublu. Her daughter is named after her father, and thus Kublu's daughter is her father.
Ornithoptera (talk) 02:48, 10 August 2024 (UTC).
The Order of the Solar Temple: The Temple of Death
- ... that The Temple of Death is the only English-language academic book about the cult the Order of the Solar Temple? Source: stated in Violence and New Religious Movements page 143. note, this source is from 2011, however it is still true. It's the only book on them in English at all actually but Bogdan specifies "academic" so i must go with that
- Reviewed:
PARAKANYAA (talk) 01:33, 10 August 2024 (UTC).
Armond Seidler
- ... that although Armond Seidler invented the pugil stick for military training purposes, it later found use in the television show American Gladiators?
- ALT1: ... that educator Armond "Army" Seidler owned a sailboat which he named "Army's Navy"? Source: [19]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Radiosoul
- Comment: prefer ALT0 heavily
Kimikel (talk) 00:15, 7 August 2024 (UTC).
Midland Main Line upgrade
- ... that that the electrification of the Midland Main Line north of Kettering was revived in December 2021 after being paused in 2015, then scrapped in July 2017?
- Source: paused scrapped in 2017, then revived
- ALT1: ... that the Midland Main Line electrification project is going at a "snail's pace"? Source: https://westbridgfordwire.com/midland-mainline-electrification-by-2030-in-government-plans/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Azahriah
- Comment: My fifth nomination and I need a QPQ for the first time. Luckily, I did that a few months ago. Also, my first GA article, though I didn't make that
JuniperChill (talk) 20:52, 6 August 2024 (UTC).
- What's surprising or interesting about this hook? "Infrastructure project delayed" is not surprising anywhere in the world, especially an Anglophone country. (t · c) buidhe 04:55, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hopefully this is more interesting, but idk if the wording is the best.
- Alt2: "that when the Midland Main Line was first electrified in the 1980s between London and Bedford, driver-only operation was introduced, leading to industrial dispute?" JuniperChill (talk) 18:03, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
Clay Webb
- ... that Clay Webb was named in a lawsuit concerning bullying that occurred when he was in high school?
- Source: [1]
ALT1: ... that Clay Webb once allegedly encouraged a minor to drink a bottle filled with Webb's semen? Source: [2]- Reviewed:
- Comment: I think the secondary hook grabs your attention more, but I can understand if it is denied because of the vulgar nature concerning it.
TarheelBornBred (talk) 13:10, 6 August 2024 (UTC).
- ALT1 definitely breaches WP:DYKHOOKBLP, probably ALT0 also, and I'd question the WP:DUEness of that entire section per WP:SUSPECT.--Launchballer 22:16, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
@TarheelBornBred: This needs a new hook.--Launchballer 22:01, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
References
- ^ Jackson, Lily (January 3, 2020). "Alleged high school prank, bullying leads to federal suit against former Oxford 5-star recruit". AL.com. Retrieved August 5, 2024.
- ^ Jackson, Lily (January 3, 2020). "Alleged high school prank, bullying leads to federal suit against former Oxford 5-star recruit". AL.com. Retrieved August 5, 2024.
Articles created/expanded on August 7
[edit]Jordan Sepho
- ... that Olympic gold medalist rugby player Jordan Sepho said that he vomited from stress the first time he played?
- Source: Actu.fr ("Rugby - Sevens Series à Toulouse. Jordan Sepho : 'Mon premier match, j'ai vomi de stress'" [Rugby - Sevens Series in Toulouse. Jordan Sepho: “My first match, I threw up from stress"])
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/pending
- Comment: Technically the expansion started on August 7, which would mean that it is two days late: hoping for an extension as allowed by Wikipedia:Did you know/Guidelines (
The seven-day limit can be extended for a day or two upon request.
). I think that someone who started their career like that went on to win a gold medal at the Olympics is interesting; open to other ways of wording the hook.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 18:58, 16 August 2024 (UTC).
Josh Katz
- ... that Australian Olympic judoka Josh Katz competed in the 2024 Paris Olympics six months after completely rupturing an ACL?
- Reviewed: Submarine Mining Service
- Comment: Nominated on behalf of an IP editor who will (as usual) provide the QPQ
- The QPQ has now been provided.2603:7000:2101:AA00:D997:A770:F85:5F4D (talk) 05:17, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
Schwede66 00:33, 9 August 2024 (UTC).
- Priority issue for the IP editor to fix (not reviewing yet): citation needed tag on birthdate. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 03:40, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- User:Sammi Brie. Addressed. Thanks. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:D997:A770:F85:5F4D (talk) 04:39, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
AMES Type 6
- ... that during the Tunisian campaign in WWII, crews carried an AMES Type 6 radar set across a swamp to allow them to spy on Luftwaffe aircraft running supplies into Tunis? Source: RAF 2023
- Reviewed: Dani Sanchez-Lopez
Maury Markowitz (talk) 17:15, 7 August 2024 (UTC).
- @Maury Markowitz: Please contribute a QPQ, or this nomination may be closed as unsuccessful. Z1720 (talk) 14:32, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
A week after this nomination was made, and a reminder ping, no QPQ was supplied. Marking this for closure as incomplete. Z1720 (talk) 19:28, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- I have been in the bush (literally) since Sunday. I will do this shortly. Maury Markowitz (talk) 11:26, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 8
[edit]Amir Zakirov
- ... that in order to attend breakdancing classes as a child, future Olympian Amir Zakirov had to give up eating lunch?
- Source: Red Bull ("Amir's family didn’t have a lot of money, so he had to find a way to pay for the breaking class. He'd already been working from 10-years-old selling copper, so he had money from that, and then he scarified eating at school to have money for the breaking class. 'I used the money my parents gave me for lunch in school to pay for the breaking,' he says. 'Because of this I had stomach pains from not eating all day, making it really hard to concentrate in school, but I wanted to use this money for breaking.'")
BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:35, 15 August 2024 (UTC).
Valentin Bontus, Toni Vodišek
- ... that Valentin Bontus is the first-ever Olympic champion in Formula Kite?
- Source: first-ever champion
- ALT1: ... that Valentin Bontus won the first-ever Olympic gold medal in Formula Kite, while Toni Vodišek won the first silver? Source: same
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/pending
- Comment: ALT1 includes Toni Vodisek, the silver medalist, which I will expand soon.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:32, 15 August 2024 (UTC).
Basie & Zoot, Classic Columbia, Okeh and Vocalion: Lester Young with Count Basie (1936–1940)
- ... that 40 years after his sessions with Lester Young, pianist Count Basie recorded an album with Young-inspired saxophonist Zoot Sims?
- Reviewed:
AstonishingTunesAdmirer 連絡 02:01, 14 August 2024 (UTC).
Love Is Embarrassing
- ... that while performing "Love Is Embarrassing", Olivia Rodrigo suffered a wardrobe malfunction, which, according to her, was also "embarrassing"?
- Source: People, Entertainment Weekly
- ALT1: ... that Olivia Rodrigo wrote "Love Is Embarrassing" the day after she lay in bed replaying every embarrassing moment in her life and cringing at herself? Source: Billboard, Rolling Stone
- ALT2: ... that Olivia Rodrigo decided to LIE on her album Guts even though her producer thought it was not a good idea? Source: Variety
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Kanaria (musician)
- Comment: ALT2 is a play on the song's initials "LIE" (Love Is Embarrassing). But I have kept the first two hooks as safe options.
NØ 17:41, 8 August 2024 (UTC).
Punam Krishan
- ... that following a string of scandals, the contestants on the twenty second series of the BBC One celebrity dancing competition Strictly Come Dancing included a locum GP (pictured)? Source: https://www.pulsetoday.co.uk/views/regulation/new-sessionals-welcome-on-board/ for 'locum'; https://news.sky.com/story/strictly-come-dancing-2024-go-compare-singer-wynne-evans-joins-line-up-13191912 for everything else
- ALT1: ... that Dr Punam Krishan (pictured) "learned the hard way to live without patient ‘satisfaction’"? Source: https://www.pulsetoday.co.uk/views/regulation/ive-learned-the-hard-way-to-live-without-patient-satisfaction/
- ALT2: ... that Dr Punam Krishan (pictured) was raised on curry and Irn-Bru? Source: https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/17800808.dr-punam-krishan-reality-life-scottish-gp/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Chand Sifarish
- Comment:
The contestants for this show are being drip-fed, so I may add articles to this if anyone else lacks an article.(Update August 12: Lineup complete. Shame actually, there were rumours that Sunil Patel might have participated and he's a cryptoentrepreneur.) I'd suggest running this on the day the series starts, probably the 21st of September.
Launchballer 11:22, 8 August 2024 (UTC).
- I didn't know what a "locum GP" is. Maybe that's a good thing, as it makes the first hook more "hooky". But can you clarify that in the lead of the article? Eg you can write "is a Scottish locum general practitioner (GP) from Glasgow." Also, in "Early life and medical career" please also clarify what's a "locum"? Might be helpful to link to Locum#United Kingdom healthcare.VR (Please ping on reply) 13:15, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- We have a (somewhat execrable) article about what locum GPs are at sessional GP, a term I've never heard of. I've made some edits to the article.--Launchballer 19:11, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 9
[edit]Ajah Pritchard-Lolo
- ... that Ajah Pritchard-Lolo is Vanuatu's first Olympic weightlifter?
- Source: Vanuatu Daily Post says she's the first female weightlifter; however, as per Olympedia, the nation has never had a male weightlifter, thus she is the first regardless of gender
BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:49, 16 August 2024 (UTC).
Current nominations
[edit]Articles created/expanded on August 10
[edit]Oghul Qaimish
- ... that the regent of the Mongol Empire between 1248 and 1251 was named "We Were Searching for a Boy"?
- Source: Atwood 2004, p. 398.
- ALT1: ... that Oghul Qaimish, a regent of the Mongol Empire, was tortured and executed after being outmanoeuvred by her enemies? Source: For the regency and outmanoeuvering, see De Nicola 2022, pp. 426–427. For the torture and execution, see May 2018, p. 138; Broadbridge 2018, pp. 218–219.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Maxim Berezovsky
~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 11:51, 13 August 2024 (UTC).
Abortion in Africa, Abortion in Senegal, Abortion in Madagascar
... that in Africa, the only countries that have passed reproductive health laws without grounds for legal abortion are Senegal and Madagascar?
- Source: [20] Eleven Sub-Saharan countries have passed reproductive health laws, and nine of them specify grounds for legal abortion (the exceptions are Senegal and Madagascar).
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Upper Skagit Indian Tribe, Template:Did you know nominations/Mama (My Chemical Romance song), Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Neary's
- Comment: I proposed an individual hook at Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Abortion_in_Senegal, so cancel that one if this one is approved.
— Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 17:12, 11 August 2024 (UTC).
- @Vigilantcosmicpenguin: The source specifies sub-Saharan Africa, so there could be theoretically countries in North Africa that have such laws which are not reflected and thus make the hook inadequate. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 18:22, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- Right, thanks for pointing that out. I could just tweak the hook to specify Sub-Saharan Africa; I think it's still reasonable to link that to the article.
- ... that in Sub-Saharan Africa, the only countries that have passed reproductive health laws without grounds for legal abortion are Senegal and Madagascar?
- The article already specifies this, so it still passes that requirement. — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 20:19, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
Human history
- ... that the agricultural and industrial revolutions are key turning points in human history?
- Source: [1]
- ALT1: ... that in early human history, humans migrated out of Africa and populated most of the Earth during the Last Ice Age? Source: [2]
- ALT2: ... that for most of human history, children did not have access to public education? Source: [3]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Betty Hanley
- Comment:
References
- ^
- Cajani 2013, § Current Trends
- Christian 2008, pp. 102–103
- ^
- Christian 2015, pp. 316, 400, "Dispersal over an unprecedented swath of the globe...coincided with an Ice Age...by the end of the era of climatic fluctuation, humans occupied almost all the habitats their descendants occupy today"
- Pollack 2010, p. 93
- ^ Scott & Vare 2020, pp. 54–56
- Sources
- Cajani, Luigi (2013). "Periodization". In Bentley, Jerry H. (ed.). The Oxford Handbook of World History. Oxford University Press. ISBN 978-0-19-968606-3.
- Christian, David (2008). This Fleeting World: A Short History of Humanity. Berkshire Publishing. ISBN 978-1-933782-04-1.
- Christian, David, ed. (2015). Introducing World History, to 10,000 BCE. The Cambridge World History. Vol. 1. Cambridge University Press. doi:10.1017/CBO9781139194662. ISBN 978-0-521-76333-2. Archived from the original on 26 January 2023. Retrieved 26 January 2023.
- Pollack, Henry (2010). A World Without Ice. Penguin. ISBN 978-1-101-52485-5.
- Scott, William; Vare, Paul (2020). Learning, Environment and Sustainable Development: A History of Ideas. Routledge. ISBN 978-1-000-20802-3. Archived from the original on 10 December 2023. Retrieved 3 May 2023.
Phlsph7 (talk) 11:52, 11 August 2024 (UTC).
- Not a review, but two friendly comments. First, Agricultural revolution in ALT0 is a disambiguation page (I'm guessing it refers to the First agricultural revolution, which redirects to Neolithic Revolution). Second, if it's possible to make a hook about life expectancy and/or child mortality, that could be a very interesting hook indeed—I know I found John Green's video "Most People Have Never Been 20" interesting. TompaDompa (talk) 12:26, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for pointing this out, I fixed the link. A hook on changes to life expectancy could be interesting. I think the article only covers this in the sentence Advances in medical science led to a sharp increase in global life expectancy from about 31 years in 1900 to over 66 years in 2000.[552], which does not give us much to work with. Maybe:
- ALT3:
... that in modern human history, advances in medical science helped raise global life expectancy from about 31 years in 1900 to over 66 years in 2000. - Phlsph7 (talk) 12:53, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not a big fan of ALT2, which is rather anachronistic: for most of human history, children did not live in societies in which "public education" was a meaningful concept. Given the wide scope of this article, I think a hook that encompasses a broad timescale would make the most sense. – Joe (talk) 11:24, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- Many societies didn't really have public education so children didn't have access to it. Maybe you are concerned about something like the following: some readers may misconstrue the statement as implying that these societies did have public education but just not for most children. This is not what the hook says but it could happen. This problem could be solved by talking about formal education instead of public education but the claim in our article is about public education so this may not be acceptable according to the DYK rules. Phlsph7 (talk) 12:09, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- What I mean is that 'public education' to be a meaningful concept there first needs to exist the idea of a formal education and a state that provides public services, neither of which existed for "most of human history". In other words I think the hook anachronistically implies that children were missing out on something that was not even conceptualisable until recently. Kind of like saying "for most of human history, satellites did not use reusable launch vehicles". Technically true, but not very meaningful. – Joe (talk) 09:36, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- Can people miss out on something for which they lack the relevant concepts? For example, the ancient Egyptians didn't have the concept of antibiotics. Can we say that "the ancient Egyptians didn't have access to antibiotics"? To my ears, this sounds acceptable. But I'm also open to different ways of expressing the idea. Phlsph7 (talk) 10:56, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- What I mean is that 'public education' to be a meaningful concept there first needs to exist the idea of a formal education and a state that provides public services, neither of which existed for "most of human history". In other words I think the hook anachronistically implies that children were missing out on something that was not even conceptualisable until recently. Kind of like saying "for most of human history, satellites did not use reusable launch vehicles". Technically true, but not very meaningful. – Joe (talk) 09:36, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- Many societies didn't really have public education so children didn't have access to it. Maybe you are concerned about something like the following: some readers may misconstrue the statement as implying that these societies did have public education but just not for most children. This is not what the hook says but it could happen. This problem could be solved by talking about formal education instead of public education but the claim in our article is about public education so this may not be acceptable according to the DYK rules. Phlsph7 (talk) 12:09, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- ALT3 is not very well sourced. It cites page 1 of The Twentieth Century: A World History, which doesn't cite any sources for these figures, and a textbook on marketing for the "due to advances in medical science" part, which also doesn't cite a source for this claim. Neither source make it clear what specific measure of life expectancy they're using, but it's probably life expectancy at birth, which was largely a function of infant mortality in premodern societies and therefore the change involved more factors than just medical science (also improvements in public health, contraception, reduction of child poverty and malnourishment, etc). – Joe (talk) 11:24, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- ALT3 is not my favorite either but I think the sources fulfill our requirements even though they themselves do not cite other sources for these claims. The hook says "helped raise" to not imply that there were no other factors. Phlsph7 (talk) 12:09, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- I wouldn't say they fulfil the basic requirement of being reliable sources, in this context, per WP:EXCEPTIONAL. But this is probably best continued on the article talk page. – Joe (talk) 09:36, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- adjusted hook per talk page discussion at Talk:Human_history#Increase_in_life_expectancy:
- ALT3a: ... that in modern human history, public health measures and advances in medical science helped raise global life expectancy from about 31 years in 1900 to over 66 years in 2000?
- Phlsph7 (talk) 07:44, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- adjusted hook per talk page discussion at Talk:Human_history#Increase_in_life_expectancy:
- I wouldn't say they fulfil the basic requirement of being reliable sources, in this context, per WP:EXCEPTIONAL. But this is probably best continued on the article talk page. – Joe (talk) 09:36, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- ALT3 is not my favorite either but I think the sources fulfill our requirements even though they themselves do not cite other sources for these claims. The hook says "helped raise" to not imply that there were no other factors. Phlsph7 (talk) 12:09, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
Mariano R. Vázquez
- ... that during the Spanish Civil War, Mariano R. Vázquez oversaw the integration of anarchists into the government of Spain?
- Source: Sierra, María; Pro, Juan (October 2022). "Gypsy Anarchism: Navigating Ethnic and Political Identities". European History Quarterly. 52 (4): 598–599. doi:10.1177/02656914221097011. hdl:10261/280207. ISSN 0265-6914.
- ALT1: ... that Mariano R. Vázquez wanted to prolong the Spanish Civil War, as he believed that the outbreak of World War II would force the Western allies to intervene and help the Spanish Republicans? Source: Bolloten, Burnet (1991). The Spanish Civil War: Revolution and Counterrevolution. University of North Carolina Press. pp. 625–626. ISBN 0-8078-1906-9. LCCN 89-77911.
- ALT2: ... that Mariano R. Vázquez thought the Spanish Revolution of 1936 had been a mistake, as he believed it had frightened off potential Western allies from supporting the Spanish Republicans? Source: Wexler, Alice (1989). "Spain and the World". Emma Goldman in Exile: From the Russian Revolution to the Spanish Civil War. Boston: Beacon Press. pp. 229–230. ISBN 0-8070-7004-1. LCCN 88-43317.
- ALT3: ... that criticisms of Mariano R. Vázquez for his tenure as Secretary General of the CNT were often infused with anti-Romani sentiment? Source: Sierra, María; Pro, Juan (October 2022). "Gypsy Anarchism: Navigating Ethnic and Political Identities". European History Quarterly. 52 (4): 600–602. doi:10.1177/02656914221097011. hdl:10261/280207. ISSN 0265-6914.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Kaylee Bryson
Grnrchst (talk) 11:40, 11 August 2024 (UTC).
Tamurbek Dawletschin
- ... that Tamurbek Dawletschin
publishedwrote one of the only memoirs about the deaths of 3 million Soviet prisoners of war in German captivity?
(t · c) buidhe 23:49, 10 August 2024 (UTC).
- I will review this nomination in the coming week! WatkynBassett (talk) 08:25, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- The article was created on 10 August 2024 and nominated on the same day. It is thus eligible.
- The article is sourced. I did some spot checks and the references checked out.
- The article is written in a neutral and non-promotional tone.
- Earwig did not pick up anything noteworthy.
- QPQ done.
- Hook review: I generally like the hook but I think it needs some further improvement:
- Which is the source you think best states the fact that just a few memoirs of Soviet POW in German captivity exist?
- Additionally two tweaks are necessary in my opinion: I think we cannot state that he "published" his memoir because it was published posthumously. Also, I did not find a source that sees this memoir as dealing with the deaths of 3 million POW.
- So maybe you can think of a rephrasing of the hook that only claims that he wrote the memoir and that it is one of the few memoirs of a Soviet POW in German captivity?
- If the issues concerning the hook are addressed I will gladly approve this nomination. Thank you for creating valuable free knowledge! WatkynBassett (talk) 18:57, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for reviewing. If you need another source for it, Gerlach says, "Unfortunately, few POW accounts were ever published". The book explicitly covers "das Sterben der Kameraden", the three million figure is given in the hook as it contrasts the scale of the atrocity to the lack of sources and memoirs about it. (t · c) buidhe 02:01, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
Trust Issues
- ... that "Trust Issues" by Drake (pictured) was originally released in 2011 as a free download? Source: Ref: Drake slows down DJ Khaled’s “I’m on One” on “Trust Issues,” another new song released as a free download via his blog.
- Reviewed:
dxneo (talk) 16:40, 10 August 2024 (UTC).
hook not in article (t · c) buidhe 23:51, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- buidhe, addressed
dxneo (talk) 02:40, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- buidhe, addressed
Lorena Peril
- ... that Lorena Peril, who once cleaned toilets at a nursing home, became the lead vocalist for the Las Vegas show Fantasy?
- Source:
- Katsilometes, John (2010-07-23). "In summoning a new star, did 'Fantasy' cross Bridges?". Las Vegas Sun. Archived from the original on 2024-08-10. Retrieved 2024-08-10.
The article notes: "Lorena Peril, long of Las Vegas stages and late of “Sin City Bad Girls” at the Las Vegas Hilton (the show closed this month), is joining “Fantasy” on Aug. 1 as the show’s primary singer, host and driving force."
- Fuentes, Zach (2024-02-09). "San Francisco native shares her journey from housekeeper to Las Vegas headliner". KGO-TV. Archived from the original on 2024-08-10. Retrieved 2024-08-10.
The article notes: "Before she became the star of the show, she was a housekeeper at a Bay Area nursing home. "I would just sing while pushing the cart, knocking on doors," she remembered. "Just sing while scrubbing the toilets. It was a lot of work.""
Cunard (talk) 11:16, 10 August 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on August 11
[edit]A House in Jerusalem
- ... that the Netflix-released film A House in Jerusalem tells the story of a British-Jewish child who encounters the ghost of a Palestinian girl in the house where she used to live until 1948?
Makeandtoss (talk) 11:35, 11 August 2024 (UTC).
Not a full review, but as the subject is a work of fiction, a new hook will need to be proposed per WP:DYKFICTION. Essentially, hooks about fictional plots alone aren't allowed on DYK. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:47, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Thanks for pointing out this guideline.
- ALT1 ... that the director of the Netflix-released film A House in Jerusalem, Muayad Alayan, is a Palestinian whose family was expelled from what had become Israel during the Nakba in 1948? Makeandtoss (talk) 09:06, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
Council Working Party
- ... that while Council Working Parties formally only prepare decisions by the Council of the European Union, they de facto shape the majority of those decisions? Source: Häge 2016, p. 686 "Formally, working parties only ‘prepare’ the ministers’ work, but de facto, they make the majority of Council decisions."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Tamurbek Dawletschin (claimed, not done)
WatkynBassett (talk) 07:47, 11 August 2024 (UTC).
Niall Ó Glacáin
- ... that in the 1620s, Irish physician Niall Ó Glacáin (pictured) worked as a travelling plague doctor in Southern France?
- Reviewed:
SkywalkerEccleston (talk) 06:02, 11 August 2024 (UTC).
Pioneer Fire
- ... that most residents in Stehekin, Washington, refused to evacuate from the approaching Pioneer Fire? Source: NBC News
- Reviewed: Flag of North Korea
SounderBruce 05:53, 11 August 2024 (UTC).
- Will claim this for review and hope to finish with it soon. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:56, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
Article was created on time and is free from close paraphrasing. The hook is cited inline in the article, meets DYKINT, and is verified in the source. The statement about structures being wrapped in protective foil is not stated by text in the source, but pictures are shown which do show foil, so that works for me. Several statements cited to the Wenatchee World article are not in the current version of the article, such as the mention of Team 13. In addition, the article says that the fire may have "originated from a human-caused structure fire", but The Seattle Times only mentioned that the fire was "human-caused" with no mention of structures; the sentence also uses the Wenatchee World as a source and that too does not mention a "structure". A QPQ has also yet to be provided.
- I also have to note that the Wildfire.gov link gives me a 403 Forbidden error, but I'm not sure if it's down or if it's inaccessible outside the US. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:33, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- @SounderBruce and Narutolovehinata5: Archived copy of that source. This should probably be added to the article.--Launchballer 10:09, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, that definitely has to be resolved in addition to the other sourcing issues. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:46, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: The confusion seems to be from my use of the Seattle Times reprint of the story, which I have added. The InciWeb profile works for me in the U.S., so it is probably blocked in certain countries. QPQ has also been added. SounderBruce 01:46, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- @SounderBruce and Narutolovehinata5: Archived copy of that source. This should probably be added to the article.--Launchballer 10:09, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 12
[edit]Albert Schädler
- ... that Albert Schädler suggested the introduction of old-age pensions and disability insurance in 1909, though he was unsuccessful?
- ALT1: ... that the ideas of Albert Schädler became the founding ideas of the Progressive Citizens' Party, though he himself was opposed to the formation of political parties?
- ALT2: ... that Albert Schädler failed to be re-elected to the Landtag of Liechtenstein in 1918, but was then appointed to the position instead?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Parker Short
TheBritinator (talk) 16:24, 14 August 2024 (UTC).
National Hotel (Chișinău)
- ... that Chișinău's National Hotel has gone from a flagship property to effectively abandoned?
- Source: NYT
- ALT1: ... that The New York Times said that Chișinău's effectively abandoned National Hotel is "a study in the post-Soviet dysfunctions of one of Europe’s poorest countries"? Source: NYT
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Tattarisuo case
Ed [talk] [OMT] 02:57, 13 August 2024 (UTC).
The Life Eaters
- ... that the 2003 graphic novel The Life Eaters presenting an occult-driven hypothetical Axis victory in World War II has been discussed in the context of its portrayal of The Holocaust? Source: see https://doi.org/10.1007%2F978-3-319-52575-4_6 and https://doi.org/10.1080%2F21504857.2017.1355824
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 13:36, 12 August 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on August 13
[edit]Abortion in Benin
- ... that the legalization of abortion in Benin was supported by two members of cabinet who had both worked as gynecologists?
- Source: [21] [...] they heard shocking testimony from Dr. Véronique Tognifode, the country’s minister of social affairs, about what she had seen during her years working as a gynecologist. [...] The health minister, Benjamin Hounkpatin, who is also an obstetrician-gynecologist, told advocates in 2018 that he was interested in improving access to abortion.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Kitāb al-Ṭabikh fī al-Maghrib wa al-Andalus fī ʽAṣr al-Muwaḥḥidīn, li-muʽallif majhūl
- Comment: According to the Prosesize tool, the article has been expanded by almost exactly five times.
— Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 18:24, 14 August 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on August 14
[edit]The Invincible Dragon
- ... that while filming The Invincible Dragon in Macau, director Fruit Chan and lead actor Kevin Cheng were detained by local police for shooting unauthorizedly at the police headquarters?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/List of emperors of the Yuan dynasty
- Comment: The English Straits Times source is behind a paywall, so I included another Chinese source from Guang Ming Daily for cross-reference.
Prince of Erebor(The Book of Mazarbul) 15:31, 16 August 2024 (UTC).
References
- ^ Lee, Jan (19 June 2019). "Hong Kong actor Kevin Cheng detained by police for questioning while filming Invincible Dragon". The Straits Times. Retrieved 16 August 2024.
Filming the movie Invincible Dragon gave Hong Kong actor Kevin Cheng one of the most memorable experiences of his life - getting detained by the police. For one of the scenes for the action movie shot on location in Macau, the production crew did not obtain permits for filming inside a government building.
- ^ "澳門取景遭警扣查 鄭嘉穎偷拍片段全報銷" [Detained by the police while filming in Macau, unauthorized footage of Kevin Cheng were all discarded.] (in Chinese). Guang Ming Daily. 14 January 2017. Retrieved 14 August 2024.
Kevin Cheng recently started shooting for the new film The Invincible Dragon, directed by Fruit Chan and produced by Raymond Wong. Filming took place around 9 a.m. in Macau, where the story follows Cheng, who portrays a Macau police officer, as he leaves the headquarters of the Public Security Forces Affairs Bureau of Macau, located on Calçada dos Quartéis, to investigate a case. However, the production crew did not apply for the necessary permits before filming, and the shooting location is in ties with the local public security forces. As a result, actors including Cheng, along with Fruit Chan and over ten crew members, were taken to the police station for questioning and detained until around 10 p.m. that night. Cheng then left Macau on the 2:30 a.m. ferry. (鄭嘉穎早前為導演陳果、黃百鳴投資的新片《九龍不敗》開工,於早上9時許在澳門拍攝外景。劇情講述飾演澳門司警的嘉穎,離開位於兵營斜巷的澳門保安部隊事務局,上車準備查案。不過劇組於拍攝前沒有申請批文,而且地點涉及澳門治安部門,所以嘉穎等演員、陳果及製片一行十多人,即場被澳門司警帶返警局調查,直至當晚10時許獲准離開警局,嘉穎並乘搭凌晨2時30分的船離開澳門。)
Egyptian Labour Corps mutinies
- ... that twice in 1917 British soldiers in France opened fire on mutineers from the Egyptian Labour Corps, killing at least 27 of them?
- Source: Deaths were in two of the mutinies on 6 and 11 September: "the Egyptians tried to get out of their camp and were fired on by the garrison battalion, who killed twenty-three ... "reinforcements were called in. Again there was shooting, in which five were killed" from p255 of James, Lawrence (1987). Mutiny in the British and Commonwealth Forces, 1797-1956. London: Buchan & Enright. pp. 252–257. ISBN 0-907675-70-0. I have gone with 27 as >Grint, Keith (2021). Mutiny and Leadership. Oxford University Press. pp. 280–281. ISBN 978-0-19-289334-5. gives four killed on 11 September and the CWGC lists seven who died on that day.
If it can run on 6 September:
- ALT1: ... that 107 years ago today British soldiers in France opened fire on mutineers from the Egyptian Labour Corps, killing 23 men?
Dumelow (talk) 20:44, 14 August 2024 (UTC).
- Reviewing
- Article is long enough and new enough
- Article is well written, neutral and supported by inline citations.
- Both hooks are short enough, correctly formatted and supported by inline citations.
- No copyvio detected on Earwig
- QPQ done
- I think the original hook is slightly ambiguous. It could be interpreted as meaning that at least 27 men were killed on each of the 2 occasions. If 'twice' was removed this would remove ambiguity and still be accurate.
So suggest ALT2 "... that in 1917 British soldiers in France opened fire on mutineers from the Egyptian Labour Corps, killing at least 27 of them?"
ALT1 approved for 6 September
- Altogether a very detailed, informative and interesting article
Papamac (talk) 17:54, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
White Mountain Fire (1988)
- ... that resources to fight the White Mountain Fire (pictured) were slow to arrive because of Yellowstone?
- Source: "Ferry County, Washington Community Wildfire Protection Plan (CWPP)" (PDF). Washington state Department of Natural Resources. December 8, 2006. page 64 "However, the nation was simultaneously faced with its largest firefighting mobilization in history as numerous fires threatened a crown jewel of the National Park Service; Yellowstone Park. Resources were slow in arriving. The six individual fires quickly grew and burned together within a few days."
- ALT1: ... that the White Mountain Fire (pictured) almost forced a Republic to evacuate?
- Source: Associated Press (September 4, 1988). "Evacuation plan set as fire nears town". The News Tribune. Vol. 106, no. 150. Tacoma, WA. p. B4
and CWPP page 64 "Any further movement of the fire northward would have directly jeopardized private structures and triggered the beginning of evacuations in Republic."
- Source: Associated Press (September 4, 1988). "Evacuation plan set as fire nears town". The News Tribune. Vol. 106, no. 150. Tacoma, WA. p. B4
- ALT2: ... that the White Mountain Fire (pictured) almost cut Bonneville Power Administration power to most of northwest Ferry County?
- Source: Associated Press (September 4, 1988). "Evacuation plan set as fire nears town". The News Tribune. Vol. 106, no. 150. Tacoma, WA. p. B4
and CWPP page 64 "A main power transmission line owned by the Bonneville Power Administration was threatened, but the fire was stopped before reaching the line. The BPA line is the sole power provider for all of western Ferry County and parts of Okanogan County."
- Source: Associated Press (September 4, 1988). "Evacuation plan set as fire nears town". The News Tribune. Vol. 106, no. 150. Tacoma, WA. p. B4
Kevmin § 16:42, 14 August 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on August 15
[edit]1988–89 Barcelona Atlétic femenino season
- ... that in 1989, the Barcelona women's second team was knocked out of the Catalan Cup in the same round as the Barcelona women's first team?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/O'Halloran and Francis v. United Kingdom
- Comment: Sources in article. Might be some other hooks to be written from interesting match facts mentioned in prose about the league. Taking suggestions on if "football" needs to be in the hook, and where it would go.
Kingsif (talk) 23:16, 15 August 2024 (UTC).
Benoit Blin
- ... that during his service with the French Navy pastry chef and television judge Benoit Blin cut off the tips of his fingers in a kitchen accident?
- Source: " For me, when I was a young lad I made a silly mistake during my military service. I used a butcher knife to slice a tomato when I was doing staff food. It was extremely sharp and chopped the end of my fingers off with the tomato." from "The man behind the chef: Benoit Blin - The Staff Canteen Live". www.thestaffcanteen.com. Retrieved 14 August 2024.
- ALT1: ... that in 2011, French-born chef Benoit Blin was president of the British team at the World Pastry Cup? Source: "Benoit is no stranger to high-end pastry competitions. He was team president of the UK Pastry Team in the 2011 Pastry World Cup " from: "BBC Two - Bake Off Creme de la Creme, Series 1 - Benoit Blin MCA". BBC. Retrieved 14 August 2024.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Flag of Togo
Dumelow (talk) 14:32, 15 August 2024 (UTC).
- Not a review (and no matter how much I like Bake Off The Professionals, I still do my QPQs oldest first!), but the WP:METRO is not a reliable source.--Launchballer 20:59, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the heads-up Launchballer, luckily everything was covered by the BBC source so I've switched it over to that - Dumelow (talk) 21:18, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
You should consider installing WP:UPSD. Full review needed.--Launchballer 21:44, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oh, that is a very handy gadget that should be more widely known, thanks - Dumelow (talk) 07:47, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the heads-up Launchballer, luckily everything was covered by the BBC source so I've switched it over to that - Dumelow (talk) 21:18, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
Eliza Legzdina
- ... that Eliza Legzdina (track featured) named her record label after "my bellybutton"? Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW71GsEtJLo, around 13:50
- ALT0a: ... why Eliza Legzdina (track featured) named her record label after "my bellybutton"?
- ALT1: ... that lemon, peach, strawberry, chocolate, and cinnamon have something in common? Source: https://www.looper.com/1112556/what-is-the-song-in-apples-brand-new-flavor-ipad-commercial/
- ALT1a: ... what lemon, peach, strawberry, chocolate, and cinnamon have in common?
- ALT2: ... that Eliza Legzdina (track featured) once copresented a workshop in which she "promise[d] to help you take your ‘2019 Ls’ and ‘spin them into 2020 Ws’"? Source: https://www.timeout.com/london/news/no-money-no-problem-learn-a-new-skill-for-free-at-these-courses-and-classes-011320
- ALT3 : ... that Eliza Legzdina has attributed opinions of her work to the "horrification of the female body"? Source: https://www.hastemagazine.co.uk/real-girls-with-eliza-legzdina/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Jab Se Tere Naina
Launchballer 11:17, 15 August 2024 (UTC).
Bothell, Washington
- ... that up to 16,000 crows commute nightly to a wetland in Bothell, Washington? Source: The Seattle Times
- Reviewed: [[]]
SounderBruce 05:36, 15 August 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on August 16
[edit]Shoko Ikeda
- ... that Haruhi Suzumiya character designer Shoko Ikeda once said that the protagonist of the same name was "just like me"? Source: Ref 7
- ALT1: ... that when Kyoto Animation worked as a subcontractor for Inuyasha, Shoko Ikeda encouraged other employees to "make works of higher quality than any other company"? Source: 京アニは作画物を着色する仕上げの下請け時代を経て、... 実力を業界中に知らしめる大きなチャンス。池田さんは同僚たちに「どの会社よりも良質の作品を」とハッパを掛けた。/KyoAni had been a subcontractor for coloring artwork ... This was a great opportunity to show the industry what they could do. Ikeda urged his colleagues to "produce works of higher quality than any other company.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Sun Chen (breakdancer)
- Comment: The ALT0 source I can't access because I imported it as part of the translation, so I'll AGF.
ミラP@Miraclepine 03:06, 17 August 2024 (UTC).
Aphrodite Rhithymnia
- ... that a Cretan man found a 1st-century statue of Aphrodite while trying to drill a well, and then re-buried it?
- Source: How the statue of Aphrodite was acquired Rethemnos news (in Greek). December 8, 2019. Retrieved August 17, 2024.
- Reviewed:
Deiadameian (talk) 22:37, 16 August 2024 (UTC).
Ota Residence
- ... that a suburban Seattle home combines mid-century modern and traditional Japanese design aesthetics?
Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 04:51, 16 August 2024 (UTC).
- I fail to see how this hook is surprising or interesting to a broad audience. hybrid or combined architectural styles are not rare. (t · c) buidhe 06:28, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 17
[edit]Anders Årfelt
- ... that after some of Anders Årfelt's lion sculptures (example pictured) were struck during the 2017 Stockholm truck attack the city ordered new versions weighing 3 tonnes (3.3 tons)?
- Source: "Konstnären Anders Årfelts betonglejon kan ha räddat livet på människor under terrorattacken på Drottninggatan i Stockholm förra året. Nu vill Stockholms stad sätta upp fler och större lejon ... De nya lejonen väger tre ton, jämfört med de vanliga som väger 900 kilo." which Google translates as "Artist Anders Årfelt's concrete lion may have saved the lives of people during the terrorist attack on Drottninggatan in Stockholm last year. Now the city of Stockholm wants to put up more and bigger lions ... The new lions weigh three tons, compared to the usual ones that weigh 900 kilograms." from: "Nya större lejon ska göra Stockholms gator säkrare". SVT Nyheter (in Swedish). 27 February 2018. Retrieved 16 August 2024.
- ALT1: ... that a lion sculpture by Anders Årfelt became the site of tributes to victims of the 2017 Stockholm truck attack (pictured)? Source: "och nu riktas även hyllningarna mot en dold hjälte – betonglejonet ... Sedan fredagen har lejonet överrösts av massor av blommor, ljus och kärlek och vi håller med om att lejonet skulle bli ett fint minnesmärke." which Google translates as: "now the tributes are also directed at a hidden hero – the concrete lion. ... Since Friday, the lion has been drowned out by lots of flowers, candles and love and we agree that the lion would make a nice memorial." from: "Därför borde betonglejonet som räddade Stockholm bli en staty - Metro Mode". metromode.se (in Swedish). 2017-04-12. Retrieved 16 August 2024.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Queen Anne Pool
Dumelow (talk) 08:03, 17 August 2024 (UTC).
Post-tuberculosis lung disease
- ... that many people who recover from tuberculosis lose more than half of their lung capacity (pictured)?
(t · c) buidhe 06:26, 17 August 2024 (UTC).
Abortion in Guinea
- ... that Guinea has a law banning abortion, but an interpretation of the law says that receiving an abortion is not illegal?
- Source: [22] [my translation] For this legal journalist, the Guinean penal code cannot condemn a woman who has had an abortion.
— Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 04:59, 17 August 2024 (UTC).
- Not surprising or interesting, most abortion laws focus on prosecuting abortion providers rather than recipients. (t · c) buidhe 06:27, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
Special occasion holding area
[edit]The holding area is near the top of the Approved page. Please only place approved templates there; do not place them below.
- Do not nominate articles in this section—nominate all articles in the nominations section above, under the date on which the article was created or moved to mainspace, or the expansion began; indicate in the nomination any request for a specially timed appearance on the main page.
- Note: Articles intended to be held for special occasion dates should be nominated within seven days of creation, start of expansion, or promotion to Good Article status. The nomination should be made at least one week prior to the occasion date, to allow time for reviews and promotions through the prep and queue sets, but not more than six weeks in advance. The proposed occasion must be deemed sufficiently special by reviewers. The timeline limitations, including the six week maximum, may be waived by consensus, if a request is made at WT:DYK, but requests are not always successful. Discussion clarifying the hold criteria can be found here: Hold criteria; discussion setting the six week limit can be found here: Six week limit.
- April Fools' Day hooks are exempted from the timeline limit; see Wikipedia:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know.