Talk:Timeline of Afghan history
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[edit]This is NOT a timeline of the history of Afghanistan, but a pathetic attempt by the Ghilzai tribal Pashtuns (the same who gave rise to the Communist regime in Kabul and later the Taliban) to rewrite the history of the Afghan nation. The Hotak were not monarchs but simple tribal raiders. It was Ahmad Shah Durrani of the civilized Abdali Pashtuns who established the state of Afghanistan in 1747, that lasted until 1978 (to include president Muhammad Dawood) when the Ghilzai Communists and then the Ghilzai Taliban, took over the country and destroyed it. This "timeline" completely ignores the period between 1747 and 1800--the time when Afghanistan was the nucleus of the Durrani Empire. It does so, because the author is a narrow-minded Ghilzai who is likewise angry at the fact that the Coalition liberation of Afghanistan brought an end to the reign of terror by the Taliban Ghilzais. Some "fidelity" to history here!!! The Ghilzai activists have dominated any topic in the Wikipedia written about Afghanistan and adultrated them. The remove anything that is written to reflect the true and documented history of Afghanistan in an attempt to rewrite it in favor of the violent Ghilzais.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.108.203.61 (talk) 02:13, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
Please be aware with this article that Afghanistan was a Nation before the US took over, and therefore any article claiming that the United States is 'Nation Building' in Afghanistan is firstly factually incorrect and secondly not a neutral point of view (ie. against wikipedia NPOV policy). --snoyes 06:10 Mar 7, 2003 (UTC)
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I understand. How do you suggest we describe this process that Afghanistan is undergoing? There is a coalition of nations attempting to bring Afghanistan toward a different make-up. The timeline I am working on will be examining events from the Taliban years through the International invasion. I hope then to keep the timeline up-to-date as we move into the future. I am happy to entertain a different name for the article. What do you suggest? Kingturtle 07:09 Mar 7, 2003 (UTC)
- how about Afghanistan timeline ? Martin
- Afghanistan timeline it will be. Kingturtle 04:03 Mar 27, 2003 (UTC)
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I realize this article is an orphan. March 25, 2003 will be the day I am happy enough with the content to liberate the articles from the orphanage. Until then, I am typing in information and playing with formats a little. Also, I am still debating what to name this article. Also, don't let what I just said stop you from adding this article to another article. Kingturtle 03:54 Mar 12, 2003 (UTC)
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It frustrates me that my only media resources are from western outlets. For example, finding accurate numbers of Afghan injuries and deaths is near impossible. Kingturtle 21:10 Mar 15, 2003 (UTC)
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Please help build the timeline. I have many sources and over the next few months I will fill the months and years. Kingturtle 04:03 Mar 27, 2003 (UTC)
The timeline is huge! So large it needs an overview timeline. — Sverdrup 21:08, 24 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- What is an overview timeline? Kingturtle 22:57, 24 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- Let's say a sentence per linked timeline to condensely describe what happened during this period. Or maybe a timeline with a sentence per decade covering the same span of years. Timelines are often overviews, but this timeline is a bit too detailed to, for example, be an overview of the 20th century in Afghanistan. — Sverdrup 12:44, 25 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- Look at Timeline of the September 11, 2001 attacks for an example. The top level is a list of timelines as well as an overview timeline. — Sverdrup 12:46, 25 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Fragmented
[edit]This is extremely difficult to navigate - can't we put some of these into fewer articles? Mark Richards 23:54, 13 May 2004 (UTC)
- Fragmented how? What do you have in mind to change it? Kingturtle 23:59, 13 May 2004 (UTC)
I don't know exactly, but at times there is one article per month, with only a couple of things in each one - could we give some kind of navigation of major events, so that readers could get an impression, then click for details? Mark Richards 04:07, 14 May 2004 (UTC)
Sounds just like what I said. I found another example: Timeline of LGBT history has a timeline on top, with links to more details per-year. ✏ Sverdrup 00:16, 18 May 2004 (UTC)
- It is not uncommon for wikipedia timelines to be divided up into timeframes. For example: Timeline of United States history, Timeline of Canadian history, Sports timeline, List of years in literature, Timeline of trends in music, Architecture timeline, etc. I realize some of the subpages are not fully formatted, but I am working on them. I realize that there should be a single page that highlights the most important items. I can get working on that idea. Or someone else can too :) Kingturtle 03:04, 18 May 2004 (UTC)
It seems to me many of these articles with just a few entries could be combined. Afghanistan timeline June 2002 through Afghanistan timeline October 2002, for example, only have a few entries each (or less) and could easily be combined. I'm sure we can get all of 2002 into 2 (maybe 3) articles, which I think would be infinitely better. The only reason to have separate articles is if they are get too long, and these are in no danger of doing that. Does anyone object to doing so? -R. fiend 17:00, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- four years on.. and I am doing this on a lazy easter saturday!! Jez t e C 08:54, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
Did you know...?
[edit]...that nothing happened in Afghanistan after October 2004? This is the problem with pet projects such as this that are solely the work of one person: once that person stops editing all coverage of the topic halts, leading to a level of intolerable inconsistency. Perhaps all the articles in the series since the US invasion need to be trimmed down to significant facts, making them maybe half a dozen articles in total. Every death of every soldier, every roadside bomb, etc are not notable. -R. fiend 14:19, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
Afghans of antiquity
[edit]Yima the Aryan, Zarathushtra the Pakhtrian, Panini the Gandhari, Maues the Saka, Rustam Sakzai, Kanishka the Kushan, Toramana the Hephthalite, Ya'qub bin Laith as-Saffar, Avicenna of Balkh, Shahab ud Din Muhammad of Ghor, etc. were also greatest Afghans.
timelines of Afghanistan
[edit]There seemed to be many different articles pointing to timelines of Afghanistan. I have merged a lot of these into 2001 in Afghanistan / 2002 in Afghanistan / 2003 in Afghanistan / 2004 in Afghanistan / 2005 in Afghanistan / 2006 in Afghanistan / 2007 in Afghanistan / 2008 in Afghanistan / 2009 in Afghanistan Comments for particular years on each page please Jez t e C 08:52, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
Daoud becomes President
[edit]The end of Monarchy in Afghanistan and the start of the Presidency of Daud, i.e. the 1973 coup, needs to be in this timeline. Also to call Nadir Shah a reactionary in the timeline is emotional, not neutral. --132.185.144.122 (talk) 18:23, 18 January 2010 (UTC) --132.185.144.122 (talk) 18:23, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
Template talk:History of Afghanistan
[edit]Some useful information may be gleaned from this page on the timeline of Afghanistan going back into antiquity . Template talk:History of Afghanistan .Intothefire (talk) 16:26, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
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