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Black River Formation

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No effective references. Reason given for revert is neither a policy or a guidelines and duplicates content from in Black River Group. scope_creep^Talk 14:25, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Embassy of India, Ljubljana

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Previous attempt at redirect was opposed and previous PROD tag removed. No secondary sources. Promotional. Fails WP:GNG. Anything useful can be covered at India–Slovenia relations. AusLondonder (talk) 14:04, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The Gelboys

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Simply fails WP:NBAND, couldn't find any source to establish that or generally WP:GNG. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 13:30, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Consulate-General of China, Chongjin

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Consulates are rarely notable. I'm certainly not seeing how this one is, with lines such as "The consulate expressed "deep condolences" after Kim Jong-il's death in 2011". Fails WP:GNG. AusLondonder (talk) 13:26, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Munish Kumar Raizada

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No significant coverage, and no actual claim to notability. bonadea contributions talk 13:24, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Tom Smail

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Articles for the New York Times makes no mention of the subject, most of the other sources are merely passing mentions. Fails WP:GNG and WP:SIGCOV. Jamiebuba (talk) 13:15, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Removed New York Times article, added further sources to add to proof of WP:GNG and WP:SIGCOV (The Times, BBC Radio 4) AscanioB (talk) 14:10, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

further mentions from Tatler and The Standard have been included. AscanioB (talk) 14:22, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Embassy of Moldova, Berlin

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Unreferenced article that merely is a list of ambassadors. Fails GNG. LibStar (talk) 12:37, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The Wisdom Bridge

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Only one source listed is an actual review/has outside commentary and what seems to be independence. I was unable to find anything else. A lot of the sources fall under WP:NEWSORGINDIA which further confuses matters. Redirect to Kamlesh Patel (Daaji)? PARAKANYAA (talk) 21:48, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I contest this as the article as sufficient references as suggested per Wikipedia Policies for a book. The article has also been reviewed by other editors.Gardenkur (talk) 13:34, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Most of the references are press-release tier material which per NBOOK do not count for notability. PARAKANYAA (talk) 17:06, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. The references are promo, paid coverage, wire stories, etc. I started clearing out the worst offenders to see if there was anything hiding in there, but it's just a WP:REFBOMB. If I cut all the not-qualifying coverage there won't be anything left. -- asilvering (talk) 04:25, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Relisting. Although a lot of sources have been removed from this article since its nomination, a source review or current references would be helpful to see if WP:NBOOK is met as one editor is arguing (in a roundabout way).
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Source analysis for the fns in this version:

short wire article; looks like paid coverage
not independent (by author of book)
not independent (by author of book)
has a byline, not short, not in an obvious ads-only section; the best source in the article at present, but it's still not... great
not independent (by author of book)
basically a celebrity endorsement? really don't think this is fully independent
no byline, obvious marketing copy
no byline, obvious marketing copy + promo excerpt
not sigcov

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Thank you, asilvering. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:30, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Kamlesh Patel (Daaji)#Books (with the history preserved under the redirect), where the subject is already mentioned, per Wikipedia:Deletion policy#Alternatives to deletion. The subject does not meet Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline.
A redirect with the history preserved under the redirect will allow editors to selectively merge any content that can be reliably sourced to the target article. A redirect with the history preserved under the redirect will allow the redirect to be undone if significant coverage in reliable sources is found in the future. Cunard (talk) 09:28, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Cunard,Liz and asilvering.If voting is the way to retain or remove the articles from Wikipedia,than Wikipedia should not have any guidelines. Than all the articles can be put for voting and the editors will remove the articles. This is a very bad precedent which can spoil the credibility of Wikipedia.Thanks. Gardenkur (talk) 12:01, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- I will switch to supporting retention if two independent reliable sources that provide significant coverage of the book can be found. This would establish notability under Wikipedia:Notability (books)#Criteria and Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline. Cunard (talk) 10:30, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Cunard. Thanks for your reply. Could you consider some of the below links:

1.https://indianexpress.com/article/parenting/learning/book-offers-9-principles-for-stress-free-parenting-8213322/ 2.https://www.khaleejtimes.com/kt-network/the-wisdom-bridge-by-daaji-offers-nine-principles-to-life 3.https://www.educationworld.in/daajis-book-the-wisdom-bridge-turns-the-spotlight-on-raising-happy-families/ 4.https://indiaeducationdiary.in/new-book-the-wisdom-bridge-by-daaji-brings-focus-on-family-resilience-raising-happy-children-and-responsible-teenagers/ 5.https://www.frontlist.in/the-wisdom-bridge-nine-principles-to-a-life-that-echoes-in-the-hearts-of-your-loved-ones-by-kamlesh-d-patel 6.https://www.thedispatch.in/the-wisdom-bridge-by-daaji-is-the-perfect-guide-to-stress-free-parenting-and-raising-resilient-children-and-happy-families/ 7.https://worthfull.in/shop/the-wisdom-bridge/ 8.https://www.anuradhasridharan.com/2023/07/book-review-wisdom-bridge-by-daaji.html 9.https://www.kidsbookcafe.com/review-the-wisdom-bridge/

I request Cunard,Liz and asilvering to consider the above coverage in secondary sources and guide accordingly. We need to work on keeping the neutrality of Wikipedia platform than denouncing a particular subject on voting basis.thanks. Gardenkur (talk) 10:55, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for sharing these sources. Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources#Paid reporting in Indian news organizations is something I keep in mind when reviewing sources from Indian news organizations. As this is not an area where I'm experienced in, I'd like other editors to share their opinions on these sources. Cunard (talk) 11:03, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Gardenkur, most of these are the sources I've already analyzed in my earlier comment. -- asilvering (talk) 16:33, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi asilvering. Thanks for your reply. I have requested maintaining the article based on Wikipedia guidelines for references. I think the article meets the criteria. I have an interest in Wikipedia platform and not working for any other reason.Thanks.Gardenkur (talk) 06:52, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Essense club

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The article makes no claim of notability. Cabayi (talk) 12:23, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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On the fence. Their "Litmus" events appear to have attracted a decent amount of coverage. Here's what I see: Times of India, The Hindu, Times of India, Times of India, The Hindu, New Indian Express.. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 12:42, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

William Morton Mackay

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Unable to verify a single fact. Fails WP:SIGCOV. I was planning to update the article to a modern standard but can't find anything. Nothing. scope_creep^Talk 12:17, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Reeves Cini

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Potentially fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTBASIC. The article is currently sourced to a stats page and Facebook, both of which clearly are not acceptable. My own searches yield nothing better than the likes of Match Centre and Times of Malta, which do not provide significant enough coverage for a stand-alone article on Cini. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 10:26, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Just like Zean Leonardi, I wish to add more references but couldn't find any. I feel a little heartbroken about this, and wish for this article to stay up, but honestly I don't know what I can do to add more references. If you could pls edit the page with more references to help. I just want to make the Maltese people more recognizable in Wikipedia. GabrylMT^{(Talk to Gabryl)} 14:45, 1 September 2024 (CEST)

If you're struggling to find news sources that discuss Cini in significant depth then the likelihood is that they don't exist. Also worth noting that Wikipedia is not a place for making your favourite footballers 'more recognisable'. You should only be writing about footballers that already have plenty of coverage. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 13:25, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also another thing that makes me MORE heartbroken about this situation is that an article like Dexter Xuereb is allowed and mine is NOT. WHAT IS WRONG WITH MY ARTICLE!?. Just wanted to make footballers more recognizable :( GabrylMT^{(Talk to Gabryl)} 14:51, 1 September 2024 (CEST)

Feel free to nominate Dexter Xuereb for AfD if you don't find sources for that article. Two differences compared to Cini that I see: 1. Xuereb has made more professional performances, 2. He has made an appearance for the senior national team. Kind regards, Robby.is.on (talk) 13:35, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Viewquake

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Reviewed for NPP. Does not pass WP:NEO. Sourced to a post on Lesswrong (a blog) and the guy who made up the word. This could maybe be on Wiktionary but I don't know how that project operates. PARAKANYAA (talk) 10:20, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. Alexeyevitch^(talk) 10:23, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2025 in hip hop music

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Comparing this to the various List of years in hip hop music articles, most recently 2024 in hip hop music, and given the ubiquity of Hip hop culture around the world, this may well merit an article once the year 2025 actually starts. As it stands as of 1 Sep 2024, this would appear to fall under any or all deletion criteria WP:P&G-s, including but not limited to WP:TOOSOON and WP:CRYSTAL. That said, I do not oppose its speedy deletion, given the nature of its 1 Sep 2024 content. As always, happy to be proven wrong about this. Or anything else. Pete AU aka Shirt58 (talk) 🦘 09:47, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment - Agreed on a lot of the points above. Absolutely not ready to be published in its current state, but oftentimes it's about that time where enough is known/covered that it could be created if someone actually tried. (2025 in heavy metal music is in a barely passable state and I've been putting material together for the rock music equivalent.) Thus probably needs to be sent to a WP:DRAFT in the meantime though. Sergecross73 msg me 12:50, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kazel Kinouchi

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Refs are clickbait and profiles. Potentially notable but currently fails WP:SIGCOV. scope_creep^Talk 09:26, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: clear WP:NACTOR pass, so that deletion is not necessary in my view, -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 12:13, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How is it a clear pass? Where is the coverage that shows that and confirms WP:V and i'm not talking about clickbait or profiles. scope_creep^Talk 14:05, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Mushy Yank: Do you have three reference per WP:THREE that shows the actor is notable? scope_creep^Talk 14:08, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Regan Frame

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Originally a PROD by User:Fram, which I fully supported. Sources have been added but none of them satisfy WP:SPORTBASIC or WP:GNG as all are database sources or passing mentions. The subject is playing in the second tier of New Zealand and the best that I can find on him is Friends of Football. I fail to see how Frame is notable. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 09:22, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Guda Endla

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I couldn't find sources to verify this. Boleyn (talk) 19:38, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. There is plenty of evidence that this is a recognised settlement and therefore passes WP:GEOLAND. The police stations reports, for instance. -- Necrothesp (talk) 09:50, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Tentative keep. I found three Google news articles about recent crimes in the village. I edited the lead. Could someone else please add the articles to this article? If not, please userfy. Bearian (talk) 02:01, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Etienne Uzac

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Fails WP:SIGCOV. Routine coverage of court visits. No other coverage. Fails WP:BIO. scope_creep^Talk 09:00, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Finvasia

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An article about a finance company. Previous instances were soft-deleted at AfD (January 2022) and deleted at AfD in April 2024; this instance was created by a new editor, rejected at AfC in July, then moved into main space by the article creator. The present article content lists acquisitions and licenses which fall under WP:ORGTRIV; the most substantial references are the interview pieces in Times Now and Cyprus Business News, but these are presenting a company-aspirational view. I don't see sufficient coverage to demonstrate attained notability. AllyD (talk) 08:42, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Anjum Sharma

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WP:REFBOMB doesn't help matters and this draft doesn't meet WP:NACTOR. A recurring character in a film doesn't sometimes show notability. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 07:39, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: at least 2 significant roles in notable productions so that deletion is not necessary in my opinion. Trimming of references is a cleanup issue. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 12:08, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Amir Eid

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Doesn't appear to meet WP:NMUSICBIO and WP:NACTOR. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 07:36, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Franco Spitale

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Fails WP:BLP1E for only being known for winning a poker contest, which is the only content in this article. 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 06:00, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hunter Leppien

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Doesn't seem to be enough reliable coverage at this time, appears to be WP:TOOSOON StewdioMACK (talk) 05:34, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: I am unable to find enough coverage to meet GNG. JTtheOG (talk) 07:22, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - fails basic notability guidelines. Alexeyevitch^(talk) 08:15, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete fails WP:SPORTCRIT Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 08:29, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This player is notable as has played professional rugby union at national provincial level therefore I see no reason for deletion. FinzUp19 (talk) 10:33, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Velappaya Mahadevar temple

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no RS found found based on a google search. Sohom (talk) 04:38, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Martialis (disambiguation)

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This was moved from Martialis (cognomen) for no good reason. The sole non-cognomen entry is a WP:partial title match. Clarityfiend (talk) 04:29, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose as original expander of article to include Martialis heureka. Martialis is the generic name, and its status as a monotypic taxon does not change the fact that it is a genus. Therefore, WP:PTM does not apply here. 2003 LN 6 05:01, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've tweaked the dab page entry to make it more instantly obvious that it's the genus name. PamD 12:05, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And in future please never "move" a page by a cut and paste: use "Move" or WP:RM. Thanks. PamD 12:33, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep and withdraw or speedy close: a discussion about what the page is called should not be at AfD. PamD

And I have now formatted it as a dab page which has a primary topic. PamD 07:49, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy Keep This DAB is clearly good as the previous page acts like a DAB Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 08:32, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

*Comment This is a mess. I have just discovered that @2003 LN6: "moved" the previous Roman cognomen page to the dab page by doing a cut and paste move, thus losing the past history (which shows its creation in 2001 by @Clarityfiend:. With the existence of Martialis (ant), the genus, and a bishop I've found too, this should clearly be a dab page but it should not have been created like that. I have restored Martialis (cognomen) to its version before that incorrect edit, but I now suggest:

Withdraw this AfD

Make a formal WP:RM to move that page to the title Martialis (disambiguation), preserving its page history

~~Reinstate the edits I've made which format it as a dab page with a primary topic. PamD 12:20, 1 September 2024 (UTC)~~[reply]

Or another way would be to add the {{copied}} template to both talk pages, explaining where the cognomen stuff had been copied from - but in any case offering acknowledgement of the history of the page. PamD 12:26, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Which I've just done. PamD 12:32, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Australia (Mango album)

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Seems to be original research, doesn't appear to meet GNG, couldn't find sources to bring it up to notability, from my searching. StewdioMACK (talk) 04:00, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Cracking Up (1977 film)

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The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure)‎ StewdioMACK (talk) 11:38, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Doesn't appear to meet GNG. Couldn't find any reliable secondary coverage of the film to make it notable. StewdioMACK (talk) 03:48, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Added 3 extensive reviews. More available online and probably not online. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 09:48, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: In addition to the reviews added to the article, there are also reviews in the Philadelphia Daily News and the Los Angeles Times. Somebodyidkfkdt (talk) 11:30, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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David Scott (video game developer)

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The sources provided are WP:PASSINGMENTION quick google search reveals no info about him entirely which make this article fails WP:NBIO Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 03:28, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Looks like he is not like giving interviews. Vitaly Zdanevich (talk) 07:21, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Buang Ruk Kamathep

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Unreferenced cross-wiki spam. Mccapra (talk) 05:30, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: Not sure what the "cross-wiki spam" claim is supposed to mean. It's a nationally televised TV series, and has the usual press coverage[1][2][3] and magazine covers[4][5], though as is often the case most information seems to be from press releases. It's 15 years old now so some sources may have gone offline. That said, The current article is such an uninformative substub that there's not much to lose if this is deleted without prejudice. --Paul_012 (talk) 07:40, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. The sources presented by Paul 012 can be added to the page and I consider them enough to show this is notable. A redirect should be considered anyway.-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 17:42, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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List of Olympic medalists in figure skating by age

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All unsourced. Also, why do we even have this? Bgsu98 (Talk) 22:36, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete for failing WP:NLIST. At best, the youngest and maybe oldest ever get some attention, but not every single skater. Clarityfiend (talk) 10:07, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: The list would be very helpful to users who are interested in topics related to athletes age. WP:NLIST: “Lists that fulfill WP:LISTPURP, WP:LISTPURP-NAV often are kept regardless of any demonstrated notability.” Nihonjinatny (talk) 18:45, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WP:ITSUSEFUL is not a valid Afd argument. Clarityfiend (talk) 01:15, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Timeline of Pinterest

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Basically per WP:WEBHOST. This article has been tagged as possibly having been "created or edited in return for undisclosed payments, a violation of Wikipedia's terms of use" for over seven years with no resolution of that tag. Notable or not, Wikipedia should not maintain content that violates its terms of use for such a length of time. BD2412 T 02:56, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: standard WP:SPLITLIST, see Category:Technology company timelines. No blatantly promotional language visible, nor is the alleged UPE issue discussed on the TP, so that the tag could, or even should, have been removed. Might need some cleanup. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 10:39, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Not suitable for Wikipedia. Abhishek0831996 (talk) 02:40, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Per nom. M S Hassan 📬✍🏻 05:31, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, this sort of cataloguing is not Wikipedia's business, and it appears to be a conflict of interest, i.e. this is actively undesirable as well as totally unnecessary and unencyclopedic. Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:33, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep only needs basic clean up as per WP:SPLITLIST, remember that AfD is NOT Clean Up, this page is clearly notable but in a bad shape. Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 08:37, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Doesn't matter how much it's cleaned up, the topic of the timeline isn't notable (even if the company is, but that's a separate article, and notability is not inherited) and is of benefit only to the company concerned. This sort of over-detail is not in Wikipedia's interest; it should not be here, and keeping it is actively dangerous as it encourages other companies to try to use us for free advertising. Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:41, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  a personally think we should refer this to the guild of copy-editors, and remove some unwanted stuffs and possible make the article in prose not in table form as it sounds like a catalogue. Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 08:48, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wayne T. Smith

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Basically per WP:WEBHOST. This article has been tagged as possibly having been "created or edited in return for undisclosed payments, a violation of Wikipedia's terms of use" for over seven years with no resolution of that tag. Notable or not, Wikipedia should not maintain content that violates its terms of use for such a length of time. BD2412 T 02:55, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy keep: AfD is not clean up, Yes, the article is in bad shape but the subject of the article is notable enough as the lead alone is enough explained how he is notable. Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 08:43, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unger Steel Group

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nonnotable business, tagged since 2015 meaning nobody cares --Altenmann >talk 22:45, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Draftify: Lacks significant coverage in English from reliable sources, the notability is unsure. While the German page has a longer article cited more recent sources, I cannot tell the quality of them due to the language. If the German article of it is deleted at last, this one should be deleted. Nihonjinatny (talk) 17:37, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Home idle load

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Basically per WP:WEBHOST. This article has been tagged as possibly having been "created or edited in return for undisclosed payments, a violation of Wikipedia's terms of use" for over seven years with no resolution of that tag. Notable or not, Wikipedia should not maintain content that violates its terms of use for such a length of time. BD2412 T 02:53, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: Possibly relevant discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electrical_engineering/Archive_1#Is Home Idle Load a neologism? PianoDan (talk) 00:15, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: The concept discussed in the article is distinct from standby power and plug load and doesn't have a clear merge target. The issues regarding paid contributions could be remedied in a rough manner by removing all mentions of specific brands, recommendations, etc., and it isn't so bad that the whole article should be deleted and redone (WP:TNT). The concept exists beyond its uses to promote brands. Recon rabbit 16:41, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Greedflation

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I know Shrinkflation exists, but not every neologism needs its own page, many times pages such as this require much more substantial coverage to show the term is lasting and not simply a product of WP:Recent as well. Iljhgtn (talk) 02:54, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - this is a distinct concept and one that is widely discussed in politics around the world and needs its own page to reflect that discussion. Also, the article when this notice was posted had 48 references - how many references does an article need to show that it is notable?

Update: Keep and move to: Sellers' inflation - this is a more encyclopedic/academic synonym.
The article also has incorporated some of the feedback given here including shifting away from listing examples to two new sections:
1) 'Mechanisms' which outlines the drivers of sellers' inflation according to this theory (information assymetry and monopoly power)
2) 'Proposed remedies' that quickly summarizes the tools proposed to address inflation under this theory (e.g. windfall profit taxes and price caps). Superb Owl (talk) 02:56, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep but severely trim down. The cited sources are reliable and significant, but we don't need so many of them. The article is basically a definition followed by a laundry list of every conceivable example. The concept can be adequately described in a couple of paragraphs. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 02:07, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge with Price gouging. SPECIFICO talk 02:40, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Much of this content came from price gouging but was rejected for being broader than price gouging which is a legal threshold in many places, whereas greedflation is a spectrum of legal and illegal activity (depending on the place) Superb Owl (talk) 02:43, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Inflation is not illegal. SPECIFICO talk 02:48, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Exactly Superb Owl (talk) 04:01, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge with Price gouging. soibangla (talk) 03:12, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge with Price gouging. Shrinkflation is an example of price gouging and would naturally fit very well there. The Price Gouging article only mentions "Shrinkflation" in passing, currently... a merge would fix that. Marcus Markup (talk) 10:20, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This article only mentions shrinkflation once in passing Superb Owl (talk) 07:03, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I meant 'greedflation' of course. It gets hard sometimes, keeping all the neologisms straight. Marcus Markup (talk) 15:38, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge, I now think that a Merge !vote into Price gouging would also make sense, with the content greatly condensed too. I am ok with either a merge or a delete closing. Iljhgtn (talk) 12:32, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I would argue that Price Gouging is more accurately an example of Greedflation, rather than the other way around. A lot of these sorts of terms are also very contentiously defined on the internet, and there's a substantive lack of authoritative positions on it on Wikipedia or elsewhere. MasterOfGrey(MoG) (talk) 01:34, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: as seen in discussion so far, the relationship between greedflation/sellers' inflation and price gouging is not really clear to me; can't tell from scanning both articles. I'm not comfortable voting until it's clearer. I think it's possible that the articles can have sufficiently different scope to merit separate articles. seefooddiet (talk) 18:37, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Zean Leonardi

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fails WP:SPORTCRIT the source provided is a database. The only source that pop up in google news is the this by Times of Malta Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 02:39, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete for lack of significant news coverage.Shinadamina (talk) 06:46, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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I wish to add more references but couldn't find any. I feel a little heartbroken about this, and wish for this article to stay up, but honestly I don't know what I can do to add more references. If you could pls edit the page with more references to help. I just want to make the Maltese people more recognizable in Wikipedia.
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If there aren't any more references out there then it's safe to say that Leonardi isn't notable. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 13:26, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also another thing that makes me MORE heartbroken about this situation is that an article like Dexter Xuereb is allowed and mine is NOT. WHAT IS WRONG WITH MY ARTICLE!?. Just wanted to make footballers more recognizable :(
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Livio Mayr

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Fails WP:GNG and lacks WP:SIGCOV. Found some sources [6] and [7] which are trivial. However [8] appears to be extensive, but I don't think its enough for WP:SIGCOV. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 19:55, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: My searches yielded lots of passing mentions in "match" reports. The Salzburg24 article linked by the nom has a few sentences of coverage, but nothing approaching WP:SIGCOV. The subject fails WP:GNG. JTtheOG (talk) 20:21, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Thanks for the source; it's been added to the article. Bgsu98 (Talk) 20:26, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete most of the sources is database or passing mention which fails WP:SPORTCRIT per Trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources may be used to support content in an article, but it is not sufficient to establish notability. This includes listings in database sources with low, wide-sweeping generic standards of inclusion, such as Sports Reference's college football and basketball databases.

and Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 02:48, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Galactic Theme

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Fails WP:NALBUM. Sources are announcements of the album or unreliable. CNMall41 (talk) 19:55, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: While the sources are reliable, the pieces are unreliable. I can't rely on a news piece that lacks a byline. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 16:09, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The only source without byline in the article is the New Music Weekly and that's how the website is. I've added more refs by the way. 102.88.68.119 (talk) 11:01, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Refs added. Like Vanderwaal said, the sources are reliable. Also, the album has received multiple reviews from reliable publications per WP:NALBUM. 102.88.68.119 (talk) 11:06, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: The sources added make it pass WP:NALBUM Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 02:44, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Southern Diocese

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Lacking secondary sources. Completely fails WP:ORGCRIT. There is no way that individual dioceses of the fringe Free Church of England are individually notable. AusLondonder (talk) 15:13, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep as a valid split from a notable main article it does not have to pass WP:ORGCRIT in my view. In any case WP:NCHURCH specifies that passing WP:GNG is enough, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 19:02, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's a very generous reading of NCHURCH which states that religious organisations "must meet the notability guideline for organizations and companies or the general notability guideline or both". Nevertheless, can you explain how this meets GNG? Where is the "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject"? It's certainly not there now. AusLondonder (talk) 21:10, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes passing GNG is enough... But this topic doesn't appear to pass GNG. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 19:31, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. There should probably be an SNG on this but dioceses and other middle judicatories of major church traditions (Catholic, Orthodox, Anglican) are almost always viewed per se as notable, even without secondary sourcing (see AfDs from 2019, 2018, 2018, 2012, 2007, 2007). (The only "delete" results for a diocese that I've seen were for a tiny splinter group with no sourcing available at all or for an apparent hoax.) This isn't a WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS argument; there's precedent established in the discussions resulting in a long series of "keep" decisions for dioceses, and editors in those debates referred to previous precedent as well. Separately from this precedent, there is WP:SIGCOV for the FCE's Southern Diocese: see the Telegraph, Anglican Ink, PCN, and an encyclopedic entry in the Encyclopedia Americana. Dclemens1971 (talk) 03:01, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

None of that appears to be significant coverage of the Diocese. Any argument based on precedent is a OTHERSTUFFEXISTS argument, arguments of precedent aren't worth anything on wikipedia because we give absolutely no value to precedent whatsoever... We choose a different approach, consensus. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 19:31, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Each article needs to be judged on its own merits, not false claims to inherent notability. This is particularly the case for a minor, fringe organisation like the Free Church of England. To equate the FCE to the Catholic Church or the Anglican Communion is simply ridiculous. The Telegraph article is absolutely not significant coverage of the Southern Diocese specifically. AusLondonder (talk) 12:07, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. As I !voted above, I do think based on longstanding precedent "keep" is the community default for this sort of article, but I would accept "merge" as an alternative based on the size of the diocese (and considering that had it been up to me I would not have created free-standing pages for the FCE dioceses in the first place). Dclemens1971 (talk) 18:15, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per longstanding precedent that dioceses of established church organizations are typically treated as presumptively notable, provided that they actually have more than just a collection of people holding meetings in their living rooms. The diocese is admittedly rather small. But I think it passes our customary threshold. This has been the WP:COMMONSENSE approach to these articles for as long as I can remember. -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:50, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. "Diocese" of a small splinter group consisting of eight churches. No significant coverage. No notability. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:06, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep (or the alternative, merge) per Dclemens1971 and Ad Orientem. It’s not a new sect or religion; it’s almost 200 years old. Mainstream apostolic churches are notable. Bearian (talk) 02:17, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Surprised by this, Bearian. I haven't nominated the church for deletion. This is about an individual diocese which is not notable itself seperate to the church. AusLondonder (talk) 10:38, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Got it. A merger is ok. Bearian (talk) 20:47, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, the topic of this article does not appear to pass GNG or any of the SNG which it actually does need to do per WP:N. None of the keep arguments made so far appear compliant with existing policy and guideline. Merge doesn't make sense because there is no signficant unique information on the page, there isn't anything to merge. Its a collection of trivia from primary sources. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 19:31, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Good to see some common sense here and acknowledgement that on the strength of the argument, which is what AfD is about, this should not be kept. AusLondonder (talk) 11:02, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lowell Galindo

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Fails WP:NBASIC, I cannot find any article talking about him alone. The sources uses a datebase and a primary source Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 02:14, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Siren Song (Dove)

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This fails WP:GNG as it entirely relies on 2 sources which is a primary source and I cannot find any RS sites talking about the opera Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 02:06, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Aurora Colorado apartment takeover

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This feels like a violation of WP:NOTNEWSPAPER Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 00:58, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Well, the most RS I can find is Fox News saying it's a fanciful interpretation of events [9] and the usual non-RS [10] trying to push a certain viewpoint, so I don't see notability. Oaktree b (talk) 01:03, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
weak delete feels like NOTNEWS for now, but I've seen a ton of contradictory reporting on this and suspect we will see more coverage (of the coverage most likely). But for now I think we are at delete. Hobit (talk) 01:44, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete run of the mill news story without secondary coverage Traumnovelle (talk) 06:01, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: per nom. This fails WP:NEVENT. voorts (talk/contributions) 06:03, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ted Wang

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A WP:BEFORE did not reveal that the subject meets WP:SIGCOV. PROD was declined. TJMSmith (talk) 01:42, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Promotional. No SIGCOV or GNG met. The Herald (Benison) (talk) 01:48, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Move to draft I support moving the article to draft where it can be incubated and sources that indicated notability are added. There is little coverage for series leed they lauched, Also the article can be rewritten from a more neutral point of viewTesleemah 09:54, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I'll take a quick crack at it in about an hour. But if I can't find anything solid then I'll come back and vote for deletion. Dr vulpes (Talk) 03:06, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: I've updated with multiple sources, removed all the unsourced material and any content that I couldn't find proper sources for. This was a fun clean up. Dr vulpes (Talk) 06:59, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: The article is good enough to pass WP:NBIO. Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 02:19, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Graham, Daviess County, Indiana

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Baker, in passing, calls this a village, but all I can ever seem to find there is the grain business (now owned by Purdue) which sits next to the tracks as far back as I can see. An 1886 history of the county doesn't mention it, though it mentions various people named Graham. I think this is just a rail point. Mangoe (talk) 02:31, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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BGR Capital & Trade

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This appears to be a self-promotional article created by the subject, User:BGRCT. -- Beland (talk) 00:28, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Just wanted to mention that while BGRCT did create this article 14 years ago, plenty of other editors have contributed to this article since 2009.
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Delete: This is all I can find [11], but that's about all there is. Sourcing in the article seems routine business coverage, I don't see notability. Oaktree b (talk) 01:06, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: cannot find any RS sites talking about it Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 01:16, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Obvious advertising. User BGRCT made 5 edits to create this in 2009, and never edited again. — Maile (talk) 11:31, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]